That was more of a joke since people typically think that's what the microchips do. I guess satire doesn't come across well on the interwebs.

On 20/07/16 14:48, wrote:
Here is the manual for the unit we have. I'll have to look for the specs...

http://www.1800petmeds.com/images/pr...tem-manual.pdf

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Are you sure the battery in the collar device is OK?
And is there power to the transmitter /

Frank in north of Scotland

We had just replaced the battery in the collar Sunday night. We think we just didn't train them as long as they needed to be trained to understand to go back when it beeps and not go through the barrier.

We've disconnected the power to the transmitter so that, in the off chance that she returns, she doesn't get buzzed when she approaches the boundary. We can definitely put power to it in our vehicle or in our home if there is possibly a way to locate her using it.

ALisha Hohman wrote:
We had just replaced the battery in the collar Sunday night. We think we just didn't train them as long as they needed to be trained to understand to go back when it beeps and not go through the barrier.

We've disconnected the power to the transmitter so that, in the off chance that she returns, she doesn't get buzzed when she approaches the boundary. We can definitely put power to it in our vehicle or in our home if there is possibly a way to locate her using it.

I would think when you make a big loop of wire or other material with
wire attached to it (as big as you can handle, say 3-4 feet across),
and connect that to the transmitter, it can be used to locate the
transponders. Check that on the other transponder.

But it will probably not work more than a few feet away, just like in the
original setup, so it is unclear how useful that is.

It is a wireless transmitter, but that would probably work with the wired system since that's the method used to check to see if the transponder is functioning correctly.

I emailed the company Petsafe to ask if there was a way to find her using it and was told no, so it seems I'm going to have to hope she just shows up or is found.

ALisha Hohman wrote:
It is a wireless transmitter, but that would probably work with the wired system since that's the method used to check to see if the transponder is functioning correctly.

A wireless transmitter?
Those virtual fences normally use a buried wire to define the boundaries
of the area the pet is allowed to be in.
Is that not the case with your system?

Nope. It doesn't use any wires. It creates an up to 90ft radius around wherever the transmitter is placed. If you look further up the thread, I posted the product page from home depot's website.

ALisha Hohman wrote:
Nope. It doesn't use any wires. It creates an up to 90ft radius around wherever the transmitter is placed. If you look further up the thread, I posted the product page from home depot's website.

I would think such a system can never have a clearly defined boundary
unless it uses advanced techniques like roundtrip time measurement of
a radio signal. The "range" of the signal depends a lot on obstacles etc.

In this configuration it should be able to locate the dog in a 90ft radius,
but that is of course not very helpful when you want to locate it in
a neighborhood.

Yes. The boundary line is tentative and depends on the dog learning to recognize the been to know it is near the boundary line. You can use boundary flags as a visual aid as well, but, you are right. If we were to move something in our house it would change the boundary.

Yes. We did drive with it in our van on the end of our road where we know no one else has one of the systems to see if she was still alive and within range, but we don't want to do that in areas we are unfamiliar with where someone could have the same unit and risk a pet getting buzzed for no reason when a child is playing near it. We were relying on hearing her yipe when she was within and then back out of range. The point of my post was to find out if we could detect when the collar came in and back out of range (when she would be getting buzzed) if she is injured or otherwise unable to yipe since this unit does not have that feature. Since I am limited in my knowledge about how radios work, I thought someone here would be able to tell me if there is a way to detect when the transmitter comes in/out of range of the receiver collar, even if we could only be able to search up to around 90 ft in each direction.

ALisha Hohman wrote:
Yes. The boundary line is tentative and depends on the dog learning to recognize the been to know it is near the boundary line. You can use boundary flags as a visual aid as well, but, you are right. If we were to move something in our house it would change the boundary.

Yes. We did drive with it in our van on the end of our road where we know no one else has one of the systems to see if she was still alive and within range, but we don't want to do that in areas we are unfamiliar with where someone could have the same unit and risk a pet getting buzzed for no reason when a child is playing near it. We were relying on hearing her yipe when she was within and then back out of range. The point of my post was to find out if we could detect when the collar came in and back out of range (when she would be getting buzzed) if she is injured or otherwise unable to yipe since this unit does not have that feature. Since I am limited in my knowledge about how radios work, I thought someone here would be able to tell me if there is a way to detect when the transmitter comes in/out of range of the receiver collar, even if we could only be able to search up to around 90 ft in each direction.

As others already said, the dog's collar is the receiver, and in this
case probably a very simple one, which you cannot locate other than by
the audio sound it generates when it loses track of the transmitter.

Of course these days it would be possible (and has been done) to make
a very sophisticated device that determines the location of the dog
using GPS and transmits this information via a wireless network so you
can locate the dog (or child, grandma, etc) on a map on your smartphone.

But this simple device is not like that.