Steve,
If yu can handle a full sized one 102' and you'll be very happy. Now you can
build it yourself OR you can buy one from various vendors. Me I decided to
"stay as true to G5RV's article" and bought a G5RV from W7FG.com as it is
tru ladder line and actually is only two wires from the PL259 connector to
the end. simple and it works. http://www.w7fg.com/ant.htm

G5RV 80 - 10 Meters (102 Feet)
With 31 feet of Ladder Line.........................$35
Requires Coax from supplied UHF Male connector to equipment.

Lloyd KD4HTW

"Steve Silverwood" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

I just started on hf bands and i usiing now a FD4 from Fritzel and I
hear
all goods things about the G5RV.
Is that so, works it's also great on 10 and 15m?
I have not to much space for a full size beam but a mini beam works also
good I think. But most of beginners started with a wire like a G5RV???
If I buy a G5RV is that with a Balun or without a balun what's the
best??

I have a "shorty" G5RV -- the full-length version goes to 80m, and
there's one for 160, but mine only goes 40m to 10m -- which does a
fairly decent job. It's not mounted in the best of places, due to the
need for me to be somewhat stealthy at my condo. I also run only QRP
power levels, mainly to mitigate the risk of interference complaints
among the neighbors, and have managed to make more than my share of
contacts using 5w on phone from 20 to 10 meters during contests like the
recent ARRL Sweepstakes. Hopefully conditions (and available operating
time) will be good for 10m this month for the ARRL 10m Contest.

--

-- //Steve//

Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS
Fountain Valley, CA
Email:

Hi!
G5RV 80 - 10 Meters (102 Feet)
With 31 feet of Ladder Line.........................$35
Requires Coax from supplied UHF Male connector to equipment.

and symmetrical ATU ..........................$???

The G5RV works better by removing all the coax and taking open-wire line of
any convenient length all the way back to the shack. Dipole length can be
increased by as much as 40 feet with benefit.

Reg Edwards wrote:
The G5RV works better by removing all the coax and taking open-wire line of
any convenient length all the way back to the shack. Dipole length can be
increased by as much as 40 feet with benefit.

Not much of a G5RV then is it, Reg?

- Mike KB3EIA -

Mike sed,
Not much of a G5RV then is it, Reg?

-----------------------

Exactly !

For all-round, multi-directional, multi-elevation, multi-band working, DX
and local, there is nothing better than a random length dipole with a
random-length high-Zo feedline, which is what most people want and which
will conveniently fit into your backyard, plus a simple home-made 1:1 choke
balun on a ferrite ring from your junk box, plus a tuner of some sort.


Without any coax the G5RV fits in there somewhere. A sentiment with which
that grand old English gentleman himself, Louis Varney, would
whole-heartedly agree. Are you hearing me Louis wherever you are? Three
dots for Yes.
----
Reg, G4FGQ

Reg Edwards wrote:

Mike sed,

Not much of a G5RV then is it, Reg?


-----------------------

Exactly !

For all-round, multi-directional, multi-elevation, multi-band working, DX
and local, there is nothing better than a random length dipole with a
random-length high-Zo feedline, which is what most people want and which
will conveniently fit into your backyard, plus a simple home-made 1:1 choke
balun on a ferrite ring from your junk box, plus a tuner of some sort.

Hard to disagree, xince that's what I use!


Without any coax the G5RV fits in there somewhere. A sentiment with which
that grand old English gentleman himself, Louis Varney, would
whole-heartedly agree. Are you hearing me Louis wherever you are? Three
dots for Yes.

There seem to be many different antennae called G5RV. I wonder when the
G5RV vertical will come out? ;^)

- Mike KB3EIA -

Reg Edwards wrote:
For all-round, multi-directional, multi-elevation, multi-band working, DX
and local, there is nothing better than a random length dipole with a
random-length high-Zo feedline, ...

My non-random length high-Z0 feedline is better, Reg, i.e., NO tuner losses.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp



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My non-random length high-Z0 feedline is better, Reg, i.e., NO tuner
losses.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

===========================

Cec, I'm very sorry to say your variable length high-Zo line never reduces
SWR down to 1-to-1 as perceived by the transmitter. It's like having a
tuner with only one knob on it.


Of course, your particular PA may have a tuned tank or pi-match in which
case you will have reduced the so-called SWR meter to nonsense for which you
deserve congratulations.


But if the long, thin, twin-wire feedline in your ingenious Z-matcher has a
higher resistance than the shorter, fat, single wire wound around the tuner
coil it replaces then you still have some explaining to do.


On the other hand, considering the economic pro's and con's, and the
poverty-stricken state of radio amateurs world wide, you undoubtably have a
winner. ;o)
---
Your's, Reg, G4FGQ

Cecil Moore wrote:

Reg Edwards wrote:

For all-round, multi-directional, multi-elevation, multi-band
working, DX
and local, there is nothing better than a random length dipole with a
random-length high-Zo feedline, ...


My non-random length high-Z0 feedline is better, Reg, i.e., NO tuner
losses.

My XYL took a look at that setup, and informed me that that was the
lowest on her list of "allowables" ! 8^)

- Mike KB3EIA -

In article , lloydm75
@hotmail.com says...
Steve,
If yu can handle a full sized one 102' and you'll be very happy. Now you can
build it yourself OR you can buy one from various vendors. Me I decided to
"stay as true to G5RV's article" and bought a G5RV from W7FG.com as it is
tru ladder line and actually is only two wires from the PL259 connector to
the end. simple and it works. http://www.w7fg.com/ant.htm

G5RV 80 - 10 Meters (102 Feet)
With 31 feet of Ladder Line.........................$35
Requires Coax from supplied UHF Male connector to equipment.

Believe me, if I could I would! But I'm in a condo and I don't have a
great deal of real estate in which to put up a decent-length antenna.
I'm having to content myself with 40-10 on the G5RV and a 2m vertical
for VHF operations. Hopefully I will be able to change over to a better
G5RV configuration soon, plus some beams for VHF and UHF, but that's a
ways down the road.

--

-- //Steve//

Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS
Fountain Valley, CA
Email: