hinkeydo wrote:
.... seems the guys in the
warehouse love to kick the hell out of boxes like that.

I'll never understand the Union attitude:
"Lets see how much damage we can do to the company
that puts bread in our mouths and clothes on our kids."

What about the "Union attitude"? Any problems that arrise are
attributed to management as they set the standards and rules. Bad
management equals bad employees. The Union employees at UPS are no
different than any other Union employee. All want their employer to
thrive and earn many dollars. They know that more profit is more pay
raise in future contracts.
NOYK in central Florida
UAW and proud
Buy US! Buy Union!

David Stinson wrote:
hinkeydo wrote:
.... seems the guys in the

warehouse love to kick the hell out of boxes like that.


I'll never understand the Union attitude:
"Lets see how much damage we can do to the company
that puts bread in our mouths and clothes on our kids."

I've never noted anything like that.

Our UPS guy has been on the same route for over twenty years. He even
brings dog buscuits the dogs on his route. He is friendly and
courteous. For outbound shipments, I take UPS items to Staples.

One FedEx shipment for me was delivered to a neighbor who lives on a
different road, a half-mile away. Airborne Express brought a fragile
e-bay purchase during a snow. Rather than driving up my drive (which I'd
done with a front wheel drive automobile, the guy placed the parcel atop
my postal mailbox alongside the road where it could have toppled to the
pavement or have been easily stolen by anyone.

Dave Heil K8MN

Dave Heil wrote:
David Stinson wrote:

hinkeydo wrote:
.... seems the guys in the

warehouse love to kick the hell out of boxes like that.



I'll never understand the Union attitude:
"Lets see how much damage we can do to the company
that puts bread in our mouths and clothes on our kids."


I've never noted anything like that.

Our UPS guy has been on the same route for over twenty years. He even
brings dog buscuits the dogs on his route. He is friendly and
courteous. For outbound shipments, I take UPS items to Staples.

One FedEx shipment for me was delivered to a neighbor who lives on a
different road, a half-mile away. Airborne Express brought a fragile
e-bay purchase during a snow. Rather than driving up my drive (which I'd
done with a front wheel drive automobile, the guy placed the parcel atop
my postal mailbox alongside the road where it could have toppled to the
pavement or have been easily stolen by anyone.

Dave Heil K8MN



Yes different parts of the country are quite different. I gave up on
UPS years ago because it was just to hard to ship a package with them.
I live in Phx and the nearest Depot was 15 miles away. From experience
on the receiving end thought I have had packages arrive in very poor
condition plus have had packages delivered to the wrong address. I have
shipped some items via FedX put from friend experiences collecting
insurance on an antiques or old boatanchors is very hard. If an item is
extremely height it will go FedX. Being I do not ship all that much but
more than the most people I find shipping via the USPO the easiest and
most friendly. There Priority boxes and Flat rate Box services can not
be beat. If I was a business then I expect I would be using UPS and FedX.


Back to boxing for my next run to the USPO,
Ron WA0KDS

"Dave Heil" wrote in message
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Airborne Express brought a fragile
e-bay purchase during a snow. Rather than driving up my drive (which I'd
done with a front wheel drive automobile, the guy placed the parcel atop
my postal mailbox alongside the road where it could have toppled to the
pavement or have been easily stolen by anyone.

I had a nice experience with AE once, and only once. It's the one and only
time I ever received anything through them. Great record in my book, (0 for
1)...

Received an eBay package. Not too big of a deal, wasn't worth much, but
they delivered it to the wrong address. Was delivered to the neighbor
across the street, on a Friday. They were gone all weekend, so it didn't
get to me until Monday. Worst part, it was on their doorstep, wasn't put in
the porch, and it rained the entire weekend. Box and contents were so
saturated with water, the neighbor barely go it to me without it completely
falling apart...

Worse yet, the label was made out to the proper address, their tracking site
indicated the proper address, but when the driver logged the delivery, he
even indicated that it was delivered to the wrong address. He wrote the
address he dropped it at, instead of the my address; how blind can you be?!

If only the shipper would have given me the tracking info, I could have gone
across the street and gotten it myself before it got too wet, but they were
apparently too lazy to email it to me, so I didn't find out until after I
got the package from the neighbor and looked up the tracking info online.

On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 13:03:34 GMT, (-=H=-) wrote:

Hi all,

I shipped two boxes of amateur radio equipment yesterday from
Lewisville, Texas to Cooper City, Florida. As always, I used
FedEx Ground. Here's why:

Two packages:
(1) weight 33.60 lbs, size 24 x 21 x 16 inches, insured $900
(2) weight 13.95 lbs, size 22 x 22 x 14 inches, insured $100

FedEx Ground, delivery in 3 business days, cost $38.77
UPS Ground, delivery in 4-5 business days, cost $56.07

UPS would have charged $17.30 more than FedEx (that's almost
45 percent) and would have taken 1-2 days longer to arrive.
To me, $17.30 is not a trivial amount of money.

Something to think about next time you're shipping packages!

73,
Dean K5DH

I ordered a DVD from Amazon.com. They gave me free shipping via UPS
that was supposed to take up to 2 weeks -- I got the package after
only 3 or 4 days.

I then ordered a TV from Amazon.com. Free shipping again, this time
via Fed Ex Ground. Supposed to take up to 2 weeks, but was delivered
in only 5 or 6 days. The back of the box had a hole kicked into it,
and the foam inside was broken, but the TV was okay.

Amazon.com, with no state sales tax and free shipping, is a pretty
good place to order electronics.

Bob
k5qwg

-=H=- wrote:

Hi all,

I shipped two boxes of amateur radio equipment yesterday from
Lewisville, Texas to Cooper City, Florida. As always, I used
FedEx Ground. Here's why:

Two packages:
(1) weight 33.60 lbs, size 24 x 21 x 16 inches, insured $900
(2) weight 13.95 lbs, size 22 x 22 x 14 inches, insured $100

FedEx Ground, delivery in 3 business days, cost $38.77
UPS Ground, delivery in 4-5 business days, cost $56.07

UPS would have charged $17.30 more than FedEx (that's almost
45 percent) and would have taken 1-2 days longer to arrive.
To me, $17.30 is not a trivial amount of money.

Something to think about next time you're shipping packages!

73,
Dean K5DH



HI, I agree!!!! I always use FedEx Ground. It IS much cheaper AND
faster than UPS.
OH, one more thing.
I truly believe FedEx treats YOUR package much better than UPS!!!
UPS does not seen to care much how much "bouncing" so to speak YOUR item
takes.
I'm sure every company has these animals dropping your fragile items.
Its just UPS stuff
gets broken MORE often.
THAT A BOY FedEX..... Put em out of business!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jack O'Neill wrote:
-=H=- wrote:

Hi all,

I shipped two boxes of amateur radio equipment yesterday from
Lewisville, Texas to Cooper City, Florida. As always, I used
FedEx Ground. Here's why:

Two packages:
(1) weight 33.60 lbs, size 24 x 21 x 16 inches, insured $900
(2) weight 13.95 lbs, size 22 x 22 x 14 inches, insured $100

FedEx Ground, delivery in 3 business days, cost $38.77
UPS Ground, delivery in 4-5 business days, cost $56.07

UPS would have charged $17.30 more than FedEx (that's almost
45 percent) and would have taken 1-2 days longer to arrive.
To me, $17.30 is not a trivial amount of money.

Something to think about next time you're shipping packages!

73,
Dean K5DH



HI, I agree!!!! I always use FedEx Ground. It IS much cheaper AND
faster than UPS.
OH, one more thing.
I truly believe FedEx treats YOUR package much better than UPS!!!
UPS does not seen to care much how much "bouncing" so to speak YOUR item
takes.
I'm sure every company has these animals dropping your fragile items.
Its just UPS stuff
gets broken MORE often.
THAT A BOY FedEX..... Put em out of business!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I guess to sum up the service ups gives or doesnt give two words come to
mind..........U P S S U C K S ! ! ! !

I truly believe FedEx treats YOUR package much
better than UPS!!! UPS does not seen to care much
how much "bouncing" so to speak YOUR item takes.

In the case of UPS it seems to have more to do with the shipper than
anything else.

When I get heavy items from Fair Radio via UPS the box always arrives
in pristine condition.

When I get similarly heavy items from random individuals the box is
often nearly destroyed by the time it gets to me (and often the
contents too.)

Admittedly at least part of the difference is the inexperience of J
Random Luser putting a 80 pound radio in a lightweight box filled with
styrofoam peanuts...

Tim.

On 13 Oct 2005 06:21:10 -0700, wrote:

In the case of UPS it seems to have more to do with the shipper than
anything else.

And sometimes it's the gremlins. Two horror stories:

1. Six years ago I shipped an AEA TNC to Timewave for an upgrade,
UPS insured. It was well-packed - I've spent many years doing
domestic and overseas packing of fragile household goods and
electronic equipment (and during the 1967 War a commercial ocean
shipper hired me to so some of it because his regular staff was out
doing military service) so I DO know how to pack well. Timewave
reported that the knob and shaft on the only front-panel control was
bent and had to be replaced. Fast forward to last year. I had to
ship another TNC to them, and mindful of the first experience, put
TWO INCHES of snug-wrapped bubble-pack around the instrument, then
two inches of sheet foam around that. I swear - the packing must
have weighed as much as the instrument. You guessed it - Timewave
reported that the control was damaged in shipment although the box
and the packing was intact.. Go figure.

2. Quite a number of years ago I had a commercial art framer send a
one-of-a-kind drawing cross-country to a friend of mine for a
special birthday. It went UPS insured. When it arrived, my friend
reported that there was a small crack in the glass frame and I
reported that to the shipper. They made arrangements for UPS to
return the item for re-framing. When it arrived back at the framer,
the package looked like someone had used it for a tennis racket.
The drawing was destroyed, and unfortunately the artist had passed
away and very little of his remaining collection was "on the market".
We did manage to get something not really that close, but the
"specialness" of the event was completely ruined. I don't know
who they used to ship the second time but it got there with no
further incidents. Because the shipper guaranteed the shipment, I
left it up to their lawyers to haggle with UPS.

The only problem that I've had with the local UPS delivery here is
that he leaves the package and rings the bell, and then it's a race
to see if I can open the door before I see The Big Brown Truck drive
off.

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon