"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message
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"MikeB" wrote in message
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MikeB wrote:

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There is NO Tech Plus test. Only Tech, General and Extra.

-Frank



Hmmmm. How about "Technicians with HF" (term is from the ARRL
website)? I was trying to say that I was also taking the code test
portion also.

MikeB

There is no Tech with HF. You need a General Class.

73

Frank K3EKO



Hmmmmm, the FCC
(http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/ama...atorclass.html)says

"A Technician Class licensee who also has passed a 5 words-per-minute
(wpm) telegraphy examination receives privileges in four long distance
shortwave bands in the HF range (3-30 MHz) (Refer to Section 97.301)"

Is this incorrect or outdated? As I said before this is all new to me!

MikeB

There was a change. FCC dropped Tech Plus for new licensees. You will
need
to take the General for HF. At present that requires 5 wpm.

I would recommend the K2 by electocraft (?). Get the basic 5 watt kit.
Then upgrade with additional components later. All reviews say it is a
good
choice.

Dan/W4NTI

That is incorrect. Even though the Tech Plus license does not exist as a
class, Technicians who pass a 5wpm code test receive the same privileges as
the Tech Plus licensees did. I.e. Voice, CW, and data on 10 meters, CW on
15meters, 40 meters, and 80 meters. This is explicitly stated in the latest
FCC rules.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

"El Martillo" wrote in message
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Hmmm -- from the FCC Site URL:

http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/ama...tml#technician

Technician

The privileges of a Technician Class operator license include operating
stations while transmitting on channels in any of 17 frequency bands above
50 MHz with up to 1,500 watts of power. To pass the Technician Class
examination, at least 26 questions from a 35 question written examination
must be answered correctly. A Technician Class licensee who also has
passed
a 5 words-per-minute (wpm) telegraphy examination receives privileges in
four long distance shortwave bands in the HF range (3-30 MHz) (Refer to
Section 97.301).

Need to ask a local VEC or VE if they are still administering a tech exam
with 5 wpm code. I thought they were. But will report back.
--
73 From El Martillo

The VE teams must be prepared to administer the 5wpm code test at the exam.
It is up to the applicant whether they will take the written exam and codes
test at the same or different sessions.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE
VE for ARRL and W5YI

"El Martillo" wrote in message
news:LbAhb.67193$Ms2.19303@fed1read03...
Hmmm -- from the FCC Site URL:

http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/ama...tml#technician

Technician

The privileges of a Technician Class operator license include operating
stations while transmitting on channels in any of 17 frequency bands above
50 MHz with up to 1,500 watts of power. To pass the Technician Class
examination, at least 26 questions from a 35 question written examination
must be answered correctly. A Technician Class licensee who also has
passed
a 5 words-per-minute (wpm) telegraphy examination receives privileges in
four long distance shortwave bands in the HF range (3-30 MHz) (Refer to
Section 97.301).

Need to ask a local VEC or VE if they are still administering a tech exam
with 5 wpm code. I thought they were. But will report back.
--
73 From El Martillo

The VE teams must be prepared to administer the 5wpm code test at the exam.
It is up to the applicant whether they will take the written exam and codes
test at the same or different sessions.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE
VE for ARRL and W5YI

wrote in message
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MikeB wrote:
MikeB wrote:


wrote in message


There is NO Tech Plus test. Only Tech, General and Extra.

-Frank



Hmmmm. How about "Technicians with HF" (term is from the ARRL
website)? I was trying to say that I was also taking the code test
portion also.

MikeB

There is no Tech with HF. You need a General Class.

73

Frank K3EKO




Hmmmmm, the FCC
(http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/ama...atorclass.html)says

"A Technician Class licensee who also has passed a 5 words-per-minute
(wpm) telegraphy examination receives privileges in four long distance
shortwave bands in the HF range (3-30 MHz) (Refer to Section 97.301)"

Is this incorrect or outdated? As I said before this is all new to me!

MikeB

Incorrect and Outdated. Prior to the FCC restructuring of the Amateur
Bands, Tech Plus's could operate on HF. However, with the new rules in
place, you need to be a General class or higher in order to operate on HF.

73

Frank K3EKO

WRONG. Go read the rules. Any Tech who passes the 5wpm gets the same HF
privileges as the old Tech Plus and Novice classes.

I am a VE and also teach license classes for prospective licensees. Just
read the latest copy of ARRL's "Now You're Talking" or the Gordon West study
guide.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE
VE for ARRL and W5YI

wrote in message
news:jpDhb.535678$cF.207422@rwcrnsc53...
MikeB wrote:
MikeB wrote:


wrote in message


There is NO Tech Plus test. Only Tech, General and Extra.

-Frank



Hmmmm. How about "Technicians with HF" (term is from the ARRL
website)? I was trying to say that I was also taking the code test
portion also.

MikeB

There is no Tech with HF. You need a General Class.

73

Frank K3EKO




Hmmmmm, the FCC
(http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/ama...atorclass.html)says

"A Technician Class licensee who also has passed a 5 words-per-minute
(wpm) telegraphy examination receives privileges in four long distance
shortwave bands in the HF range (3-30 MHz) (Refer to Section 97.301)"

Is this incorrect or outdated? As I said before this is all new to me!

MikeB

Incorrect and Outdated. Prior to the FCC restructuring of the Amateur
Bands, Tech Plus's could operate on HF. However, with the new rules in
place, you need to be a General class or higher in order to operate on HF.

73

Frank K3EKO

WRONG. Go read the rules. Any Tech who passes the 5wpm gets the same HF
privileges as the old Tech Plus and Novice classes.

I am a VE and also teach license classes for prospective licensees. Just
read the latest copy of ARRL's "Now You're Talking" or the Gordon West study
guide.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE
VE for ARRL and W5YI

wrote in message
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El Martillo wrote:
Frank wrote:

There is NO Tech Plus test. Only Tech, General and Extra.
-Frank


But at URL: http://www.arrl.org/FandES/ead/classes.html

It states:
Technician Class

Hams enter the hobby as Technicians by passing a 35-question
multiple-choice
examination. No Morse code test is required. The exam covers basic
regulations, operating practices, and electronics theory, with a focus
on
VHF and UHF applications.

Technician Class operators are authorized to use all amateur VHF and UHF
frequencies (all frequencies above 50 MHz). Technicians who pass a 5 WPM
Morse code examination are entitled to limited power outputs on certain
HF
frequencies. "Technicians with HF" may operate on the 80, 40, and 15
meter
bands using CW, and on the 10 meter band using CW, voice, and digital
modes.



Also for freq and power limits -- see URL:

http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/reg.../allocate.html


Believe who you want. That only applies to old tech plus licensees.
New Tech's CANNOT operate HF. How many times am I going to have to
explain this???

73

Frank K3EKO


Just as many times as I must tell you that you are WRONG, WRONG, WRONG.
Techs who pass 5wpm get the old Tech Plus/Novice HF privileges. Says so
right in the FCC rules and all the up to date study guides.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE
VE for ARRL and W5YI

wrote in message
news:5nEhb.724429$Ho3.176893@sccrnsc03...
El Martillo wrote:
Frank wrote:

There is NO Tech Plus test. Only Tech, General and Extra.
-Frank


But at URL: http://www.arrl.org/FandES/ead/classes.html

It states:
Technician Class

Hams enter the hobby as Technicians by passing a 35-question
multiple-choice
examination. No Morse code test is required. The exam covers basic
regulations, operating practices, and electronics theory, with a focus
on
VHF and UHF applications.

Technician Class operators are authorized to use all amateur VHF and UHF
frequencies (all frequencies above 50 MHz). Technicians who pass a 5 WPM
Morse code examination are entitled to limited power outputs on certain
HF
frequencies. "Technicians with HF" may operate on the 80, 40, and 15
meter
bands using CW, and on the 10 meter band using CW, voice, and digital
modes.



Also for freq and power limits -- see URL:

http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/reg.../allocate.html


Believe who you want. That only applies to old tech plus licensees.
New Tech's CANNOT operate HF. How many times am I going to have to
explain this???

73

Frank K3EKO


Just as many times as I must tell you that you are WRONG, WRONG, WRONG.
Techs who pass 5wpm get the old Tech Plus/Novice HF privileges. Says so
right in the FCC rules and all the up to date study guides.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE
VE for ARRL and W5YI

Dee D. Flint wrote:
wrote in message
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MikeB wrote:

I am taking the Tech+ test soon and have some equipment-related
questions.

I know alot about electronics but nothing about amateur radio, nor do
I know anyone who does, so I hope this is the best newsgroup for info,
if not, let me know which group to ask my questions in!

I plan to start off with low-power CW and need to know what equipment
I'll need to get started. I searched the archives, but did not get
much solid info.

I plan on getting a basic "learning transceiver" off eBay to begin
with, then after I know what options I need and learn more, I'll get a
new one.

What features will I need to be able to start to do low-power CW, and
is there a preferred brand or model to look for?

Thanks,

MikeB

There is NO Tech Plus test. Only Tech, General and Extra.

-Frank



However, there is a Tech with HF privileges even though the license only
says Technician.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Yes, prior to restructuring.

Frank

Dee D. Flint wrote:
wrote in message
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MikeB wrote:

I am taking the Tech+ test soon and have some equipment-related
questions.

I know alot about electronics but nothing about amateur radio, nor do
I know anyone who does, so I hope this is the best newsgroup for info,
if not, let me know which group to ask my questions in!

I plan to start off with low-power CW and need to know what equipment
I'll need to get started. I searched the archives, but did not get
much solid info.

I plan on getting a basic "learning transceiver" off eBay to begin
with, then after I know what options I need and learn more, I'll get a
new one.

What features will I need to be able to start to do low-power CW, and
is there a preferred brand or model to look for?

Thanks,

MikeB

There is NO Tech Plus test. Only Tech, General and Extra.

-Frank



However, there is a Tech with HF privileges even though the license only
says Technician.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Yes, prior to restructuring.

Frank

Dee D. Flint wrote:

wrote in message
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MikeB wrote:

MikeB wrote:



wrote in message



There is NO Tech Plus test. Only Tech, General and Extra.

-Frank



Hmmmm. How about "Technicians with HF" (term is from the ARRL
website)? I was trying to say that I was also taking the code test
portion also.

MikeB

There is no Tech with HF. You need a General Class.

73

Frank K3EKO




Hmmmmm, the FCC

(http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/ama...atorclass.html)says

"A Technician Class licensee who also has passed a 5 words-per-minute
(wpm) telegraphy examination receives privileges in four long distance
shortwave bands in the HF range (3-30 MHz) (Refer to Section 97.301)"

Is this incorrect or outdated? As I said before this is all new to me!

MikeB

Incorrect and Outdated. Prior to the FCC restructuring of the Amateur
Bands, Tech Plus's could operate on HF. However, with the new rules in
place, you need to be a General class or higher in order to operate on HF.

73

Frank K3EKO


WRONG. Go read the rules. Any Tech who passes the 5wpm gets the same HF
privileges as the old Tech Plus and Novice classes.

I am a VE and also teach license classes for prospective licensees. Just
read the latest copy of ARRL's "Now You're Talking" or the Gordon West study
guide.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE
VE for ARRL and W5YI

I don't care about the ARRL. THey can go to HELL.