Why would I care if it triggered a radar detector? In fact, it would be
BETTER if it didn't trigger a detector.

Jim


"Rather Play Pinball" wrote in message
...

Do NOT purchase the Ramsey "kit" for this applicaiton. While it may be
fun for a budding electronics wanna-be, it does not put out at a frequency
that will trigger radar detectors.

Jack

"RST Engineering (jw)" wrote in message
...
Why would I care if it triggered a radar detector? In fact, it would be
BETTER if it didn't trigger a detector.

Jim


Why? Don't you intend to trigger a siren to slow them down? What's it matter
if they slow down because of their dectors - they slow down, and that would
appear to be the important thing.

Cheers.

Ken


"Rather Play Pinball" wrote in message
...

Do NOT purchase the Ramsey "kit" for this applicaiton. While it may be
fun for a budding electronics wanna-be, it does not put out at a
frequency
that will trigger radar detectors.

Jack

On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 12:13:49 +1300, Ken Taylor wrote:

"RST Engineering (jw)" wrote in message
...
Why would I care if it triggered a radar detector? In fact, it would be
BETTER if it didn't trigger a detector.

Jim

Why? Don't you intend to trigger a siren to slow them down? What's it matter
if they slow down because of their dectors - they slow down, and that would
appear to be the important thing.


Nah - It's Jim @ RST - he wants to nail somebody so he can kick their ass.

Cheers!
Rich

On Sat, 7 Jan 2006 16:06:31 -0500, "Rather Play Pinball"
wrote:


Do a looksie on E-Pay, cheap old style X and K band units are available.
With a 12vDC power supply, you can have your very own source. Even if you
just buy the head without the counter, the 12vdc will supply the head and it
will put out.

Do NOT purchase the Ramsey "kit" for this applicaiton. While it may be fun
for a budding electronics wanna-be, it does not put out at a frequency that
will trigger radar detectors.

He's not trying to set off detectors, he's trying to set a speed
threshold where a siren goes off.

But what the heck, if you're going to set up an illegal transmitter,
might as well use one big enough to reset the ECM in their cars.

What illegal? I can either retune it for a ham band or reduce power if
necessary. I'll find the hardware first and figure out the legal later.

Jim


"Wes Stewart" wrote in message



But what the heck, if you're going to set up an illegal transmitter,
might as well use one big enough to reset the ECM in their cars.

On Sat, 7 Jan 2006 14:47:08 -0800, "RST Engineering"
wrote:

What illegal? I can either retune it for a ham band or reduce power if
necessary. I'll find the hardware first and figure out the legal later.

Well, I know I'm going to be asked to leave this discussion but,
technically, unless you are IDing with your call sign every 10
minutes. it would be illegal. I seriously doubt that this was in your
plan.

Police radar guns, should you come up with one, are also licensed to
the department, assuming the cops are following the law, always a
dubious proposition.

So, because these are -technical- newsgroups, I was being -technical-.

Now for a "prohibited" non-technical suggestion, here is one that I am
contemplating. I too live on a short, private, single-lane road, that
serves four multi-acre homesites. I am plagued by the guys driving
delivery trucks (DHL, UPS, etc) who roar down the road in a cloud of
dust while delivering to my neighbors. I have complained to UPS
repeatedly without success.

So one of these days, when I'm up to it, after they go by on the way
to the neighbor's house, I'm going to take my truck out and block the
road for 15 minutes. (A second offense will call for a penalty of 30
minutes, etc) UPS seems to have a deal with law enforcement that
exempts them from speed limits on public roads, but in AZ the statutes
say:

28-628. Rights of real property owners

This chapter does not prevent the owner of real property that is used
by the public for purposes of vehicular travel by permission of the
owner and not as a matter of right from:

1. Prohibiting that use.

2. Requiring other, different or additional conditions than those
specified in this chapter.

3. Otherwise regulating the use as deemed best by the owner.

In other words, I get to regulate the speed (I've posted it as 10
MPH). I have no power to fine UPS, but I can still cost them money.

Wes Stewart wrote:


28-628. Rights of real property owners

This chapter does not prevent the owner of real property that is used
by the public for purposes of vehicular travel by permission of the
owner and not as a matter of right from:

1. Prohibiting that use.

2. Requiring other, different or additional conditions than those
specified in this chapter.

3. Otherwise regulating the use as deemed best by the owner.

In other words, I get to regulate the speed (I've posted it as 10
MPH). I have no power to fine UPS, but I can still cost them money.

You are not reading the wording carefully; it is the "not as a matter of
right from" that you are missing. It very well may be a matter of right
if the private road is co-owned by the other property holders and this
ownership allows them the right to transact business in the way of
receiving deliveries as they choose.

On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 07:35:15 -0700, Wes Stewart
wrote:

On Sat, 7 Jan 2006 14:47:08 -0800, "RST Engineering"
wrote:

What illegal? I can either retune it for a ham band or reduce power if
necessary. I'll find the hardware first and figure out the legal later.

Well, I know I'm going to be asked to leave this discussion but,
technically, unless you are IDing with your call sign every 10
minutes. it would be illegal. I seriously doubt that this was in your
plan.

Police radar guns, should you come up with one, are also licensed to
the department, assuming the cops are following the law, always a
dubious proposition.

So, because these are -technical- newsgroups, I was being -technical-.

Now for a "prohibited" non-technical suggestion, here is one that I am
contemplating. I too live on a short, private, single-lane road, that
serves four multi-acre homesites. I am plagued by the guys driving
delivery trucks (DHL, UPS, etc) who roar down the road in a cloud of
dust while delivering to my neighbors. I have complained to UPS
repeatedly without success.

So one of these days, when I'm up to it, after they go by on the way
to the neighbor's house, I'm going to take my truck out and block the
road for 15 minutes. (A second offense will call for a penalty of 30
minutes, etc) UPS seems to have a deal with law enforcement that
exempts them from speed limits on public roads, but in AZ the statutes
say:

28-628. Rights of real property owners

This chapter does not prevent the owner of real property that is used
by the public for purposes of vehicular travel by permission of the
owner and not as a matter of right from:

1. Prohibiting that use.

2. Requiring other, different or additional conditions than those
specified in this chapter.

3. Otherwise regulating the use as deemed best by the owner.

In other words, I get to regulate the speed (I've posted it as 10
MPH). I have no power to fine UPS, but I can still cost them money.

You're probably going to get into "co-ownership" issues regarding the
access easement. How is the road ownership defined... everyone grant
an easement to the others?

A neighbor may sue you for "interference" in his business.

Where in AZ are you?

...Jim Thompson
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Wes Stewart wrote:

On Sat, 7 Jan 2006 14:47:08 -0800, "RST Engineering"
wrote:



What illegal? I can either retune it for a ham band or reduce power if
necessary. I'll find the hardware first and figure out the legal later.



Well, I know I'm going to be asked to leave this discussion but,
technically, unless you are IDing with your call sign every 10
minutes. it would be illegal. I seriously doubt that this was in your
plan.

Police radar guns, should you come up with one, are also licensed to
the department, assuming the cops are following the law, always a
dubious proposition.



There is a frequency near 10.5 GHz assigned for unlicensed door openers etc.
I have a few of the Gunn units that came from door openers.

Bill K7NOM

some stuff snipped

Precisely the plan, Wes. The horn serves two purposes. One, it alerts the
transgressor that they pushed the button. Two, it alerts me to fire up the
truck and block the road.

As others have pointed out, a two pressure hose setup and some simple math
in a microprocessor of some sort would serve the same purpose at far less
current draw, but I'd like to try the radar gun first.

Hell, Jim Thompson went on for two weeks about how to detect a school bus
pulling up in front of the house. I thought this one would go on for at
LEAST as long {;-)

BTW, Jim, what was your ultimate solution to that problem?

Jim


Now for a "prohibited" non-technical suggestion, here is one that I am
contemplating. I too live on a short, private, single-lane road, that
serves four multi-acre homesites. I am plagued by the guys driving
delivery trucks (DHL, UPS, etc) who roar down the road in a cloud of
dust while delivering to my neighbors. I have complained to UPS
repeatedly without success.

So one of these days, when I'm up to it, after they go by on the way
to the neighbor's house, I'm going to take my truck out and block the
road for 15 minutes. (A second offense will call for a penalty of 30
minutes, etc) UPS seems to have a deal with law enforcement that
exempts them from speed limits on public roads, but in AZ the statutes
say: