In article . com writes:
On Apr 29, 5:16 pm, "The Shadow" wrote:

In the USA, CQ is not used for VHF/UHF FM. Simply callsign monitoring.
CQ is used for the VHF/UHF SSB mode

Lamont

In some areas of the U.S, "CQ" is certainly used on VHF/UHF FM. If a
CQ works on 160 through 10 and works on 6m, 2m and 70cm SSB or CW,
pressing the PTT switch and saying, "CQ from K8MN" works fine on VHF
or UHF FM.

Dave K8MN

It seems that "monitoring" has fallen out of favor, at least with
folks I know. If you want to talk to someone, you might say something
like:

"Anyone around? callsign"

or even actually call CQ.

"Monitoring" tells me you are listening, but does not imply that you
are actively soliciting a contact, just that your radio is on.


Alan
wa6azp

"Alan" wrote ...
It seems that "monitoring" has fallen out of favor, at least with
folks I know. If you want to talk to someone, you might say something
like:

"Anyone around? callsign"

or even actually call CQ.

"Monitoring" tells me you are listening, but does not imply that you
are actively soliciting a contact, just that your radio is on.

"Monitoring..." seems to be the most prevalent method
that I am hearing on the popular repeaters here in the
PDX area.

KE7GKP

"Alan" wrote in message
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In article . com
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On Apr 29, 5:16 pm, "The Shadow" wrote:

In the USA, CQ is not used for VHF/UHF FM. Simply callsign monitoring.
CQ is used for the VHF/UHF SSB mode

Lamont

In some areas of the U.S, "CQ" is certainly used on VHF/UHF FM. If a
CQ works on 160 through 10 and works on 6m, 2m and 70cm SSB or CW,
pressing the PTT switch and saying, "CQ from K8MN" works fine on VHF
or UHF FM.

Dave K8MN

It seems that "monitoring" has fallen out of favor, at least with
folks I know. If you want to talk to someone, you might say something
like:

"Anyone around? callsign"

or even actually call CQ.

"Monitoring" tells me you are listening, but does not imply that you
are actively soliciting a contact, just that your radio is on.


Alan
wa6azp


I refer you to the ARRL Page at URL:
http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/pdf/repeater1.pdf

It sez"
"Making your first transmission on a repeater is as simple as signing your
call. If the repeater is quiet, just say "N1GZO" or "N1GZO listening" -- to
attract someone's attention."

Further it states "

"Don't call CQ to initiate a conversation on a repeater. It takes longer to
complete a CQ than to transmit your call sign. (In some areas, a solitary
"CQ" is permissible.) Efficient communication is the goal. You are not on
HF, trying to attract the attention of someone who is casually tuning across
the band. In the FM mode, stations are either monitoring their favorite
frequency or not."

At one time "monitoring " was for control operators, but now a days in So
Calif, you will here "Listening" or "Monitoring" Calling CQ on a repeater
will get you 10 guys replying "We don't use CQ on repeaters" and a big
argument about it. Travelling across country, the same protocol is generally
used IMHO.

Lamont

On May 11, 1:41 pm, "The Shadow" wrote:

Calling CQ on a repeater will get you 10 guys replying "We
don't use CQ on repeaters" and a big argument about it.

These 'radio cops' exist on all bands, not just repeaters. I once
wrote a parody/satire humor piece about them, too funny to be posted
here, but you can view a copy at http://lists.contesting.com/_cq-cont.../msg00393.html

73, de Hans, K0HB

KØHB wrote in
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On May 11, 1:41 pm, "The Shadow" wrote:

Calling CQ on a repeater will get you 10 guys replying "We
don't use CQ on repeaters" and a big argument about it.

These 'radio cops' exist on all bands, not just repeaters. I once
wrote a parody/satire humor piece about them, too funny to be posted
here, but you can view a copy at
http://lists.contesting.com/_cq-cont.../msg00393.html


Around my area, pretty much everything goes... (what's legal anyway). The
repeater users are all pretty laid back folks with a lot of tolerance. All
the "repeater cops" pretty much left 2 meters some time ago.

On May 11, 7:01 pm, John wrote:


Around my area, pretty much everything goes... (what's legal anyway).


As long as it's legal, that ought to be the test.

What ever happened to the old FCC Official Observer program? These
were licensed volunteers (hams just like you and me) who passed some
screening exam, and then cruised the bands looking for problems. As I
recall they had no 'police' power but could issue you a 'friendly
reminder', backed up by "chapter and verse" if you were afoul of the
rules. This reminder didn't go on any record, but was intended to
take a load off the FCC monitoring stations. I suppose that 'frequent
offenders' were referred upstairs, but I never heard of it.

73, RDW

RDWeaver wrote:

What ever happened to the old FCC Official Observer program? These
were licensed volunteers (hams just like you and me) who passed some
screening exam, and then cruised the bands looking for problems. As I
recall they had no 'police' power but could issue you a 'friendly
reminder', backed up by "chapter and verse" if you were afoul of the
rules. This reminder didn't go on any record, but was intended to
take a load off the FCC monitoring stations. I suppose that 'frequent
offenders' were referred upstairs, but I never heard of it.

Although it's referred to as the "Amateur Auxillary of the FCC", the OO
program is primarily an ARRL field appointment, and it's still alive and
well. See http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/org/am_aux.html and
http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/org/oo.html

I received my share of OO citations back in the 60's. They helped me
understand the wonders of harmonics of the 80-meter novice band and how
well they propagated.

I think that the OO contingent has also been used to help document
recent malicious interference situations, but they're hams like you and
me, not FCC employees. An analogy is Skywarn . . . spotters are trained
and treated differently than the general public, but they're not
official NWS employees.

"RDWeaver" wrote in message
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On May 11, 7:01 pm, John wrote:


Around my area, pretty much everything goes... (what's legal anyway).


As long as it's legal, that ought to be the test.

What ever happened to the old FCC Official Observer program? These
were licensed volunteers (hams just like you and me) who passed some
screening exam, and then cruised the bands looking for problems. As I
recall they had no 'police' power but could issue you a 'friendly
reminder', backed up by "chapter and verse" if you were afoul of the
rules. This reminder didn't go on any record, but was intended to
take a load off the FCC monitoring stations. I suppose that 'frequent
offenders' were referred upstairs, but I never heard of it.

73, RDW


My appointment as an Official Observer in the FCC Field Operations
Bureau Amateur Auxiliary was in March 1989. At that time to become an
Official Observer you must have held a Technician class or higher license
for at least 5 years and pass a rigorous test of FCC part 97 rules
questions. After being appointed the ARRL provided me with a free copy of
"The FCC Rule Book".
If an OO notice didn't get the desired result the next step was a "Heavy
Duty" notice from a FCC monitoring station. That would usually get the job
done.
73, Ace - WH2T


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RDWeaver wrote in news:1178912315.244869.311630
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On May 11, 7:01 pm, John wrote:


Around my area, pretty much everything goes... (what's legal anyway).


As long as it's legal, that ought to be the test.

What ever happened to the old FCC Official Observer program?

I know there is at least one OO in my area. From what I understand, the
program is still in place.

See URL:
http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/org/am_aux.html

Lamont

"John" wrote in message
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RDWeaver wrote in news:1178912315.244869.311630
@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:

On May 11, 7:01 pm, John wrote:


Around my area, pretty much everything goes... (what's legal anyway).


As long as it's legal, that ought to be the test.

What ever happened to the old FCC Official Observer program?

I know there is at least one OO in my area. From what I understand, the
program is still in place.