On Mar 1, 5:31�pm, "Stefan Wolfe" wrote:
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From: "Stefan Wolfe" on Wed, Feb 28 2007 7:24 pm
* I agree but Steven James Robeson, K4YZ, wrote it. *See the quote
* marks up there?

* You were not present when Robeson was told of his obvious
* error...by several others. *I posted the link to the DoD
* directive on MARS operations.

In order to join MARS and receive a
MARS call sign, one must be approved by a branch of the military service
for
that purpose and one must be a present, retired or family member of a
military member.

* You had best look up the various service branch MARS
* web pages and correct yourself on the above.

You are correct but this is a very insignificant point.

NOT to the military nor the particular MARS group.

As if everyone here has read all of your posts over the last 10 years? I see
you like to flatter yourself.

No. No flattery is necessary. Brian Burke, Hans Brakob
and myself tried to correct Robesin but - as usual - he
refused to be corrected. That particular thread ran for
months. That quote was VERY familiar to ANYONE
seeing it at the time.


Really. OMG, I thought MARS was a Top SECRET classified confidential and
highly tactical/strategic radio service that was used on different
frequencies than the ham bands so we couldn't hear what the military was
saying. Did the Russians know about this too?

You are writing gibberish again. MARS did not carry any
classified or secure communications nor was it "secret"
to any amateur years ago. I doubt ANY MARS station
ever carried classified communications.

In 1954, for example, the Tokyo MARS station was a two-
room office space at the FEC Hq building (the former
Japanese military Hq building during WW2, would later
revert back as the Japanese Self Defense Force Hq
when FEC Hq was moved to Fort Shafter, HI. MARS
got to use bits and pieces of RF transmitters on a very
low priority - if and only if it was available. I know this
as a member of the REAL tactical-strategic Army
station that served the FEC Hq at the time. In late 1955
the Tokyo MARS station got moved to Hardy Barracks
in west-central Tokyo and was permitted to get multi-
band beam antenna and more amateur-like equipment.

The predecessor to MARS
* was born before WW2 in the US Army, a quaint idea to get US
* amateurs involved in hopes that some "new technology" in radio
* might be tried out or shown to the US Army. *As far as radio
* design for the Army is concerned, that did not appear to happen.

It only served to put a few service people in touch with their loved ones
during WW2, korea and VN.

NOT "during" WW2. NOT "during" the active part of the
Korean War. The Korean War entered a permanent Truce
period in July 1953 and that has NOT ended to this day.

In 1954 and beyond, there were sufficient voice telephone
circuits available commercially to enable "loved ones" to
communicate directly with military personnel...IF and only
IF those personnel were free to use such commercial
communications. Officers and other higher-rank civilians
were able to do so but not the vast majority of the rest.
Red Cross messaging was available (on a low priority
to military comms) and usually sent over non-busy
TTY circuits after the end of a "radio day" (which was
about 2 to 3 AM local Tokyo time). This was seen at
ADA Control center where I spent a month filling in for
a regular center E-5 who was on emergency leave.
During that time one of the TTY relay tape handlers
on midnight shift got to see a copy of a Red Cross
message saying he had just become a father. Proud
new papa was then chewed out by the Officer in Charge
of TTY relay for "looking at unauthorized messages!"
That OIC was later reprimanded by the signal battalion
commander for that...and wound up on the immediate
list for return to civilian life as a reservist, something
that was the Army's equivalent to "downsizing" after
the Truce.

MARS *is* given credit for its messaging during the
Vietnam War morale support. You can find that at the
US Army Center for Military History on Signal Operations
during the Vietnam War. The DoD dates the 'Nam War
from 1965 to 1973 and is over 30 years in the past.



Then this "new technology" as you put it was all
forgotten due to the other big secret that I think you're holding back on:

Roswell.

And the +/- gravity amplifiers.

After the saucer crashes, the military considered ham radio to be relatively
low tech so MARS was relegated to a low place on the military budget, but I
know you must deny this :-))

You are nuts.


Well, I might suggest you avoid the "f" word when posting. Remember,
whatever you post here is and always will be accessible to everyone who
cares to research you on usenet. Do you have grandchildren?

No. My grand-nephew is presently serving in Iraq as a PFC
with a heavy-equipment moving and repair unit. I am proud
of his voluntary service and know damn-****ing-well how
he and his buddies "talk" as one who went before him.

Authoring posts like
this with the "f" word will show them how little class their ancestor had.
Ever think of that, bud?

You've been taking lessons from the Nun of the Above?

Drop the ANONYMOUS Sister act with knuckle-spanking
ruler. One transgendered sissy in here is enough. Two
is way too many.


However, I think we all can agree it will be 20K times worse for offshoots
of kb9rqz (I feel sorry for them already!).

No, that's WRONG. Given the posting examples of one
who managed to get the callsign of K4YZ (there are no
psychological tests of radio amateurs), HIS progeny
are probably carrying his gene material. That is NOT
GOOD for the human race. Or for the USMC.

Steppinwolfe, why go on with your ANONYMITY? You
don't fool anyone. You are simply ignorant of radio
communications in general, certainly so for the USA
which has a lot of communications history available
for the learning. Get some help with your "belief" in
aliens and flying saucers. Or go infiltrate "Area 51"
and get arrested for trespassing on US military
property...you will then get some "help" on your
crazy belief trauma.

LA