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"K4YZ" wrote in message
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On Mar 1, 7:32?pm, "
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A vanity license application requires an already-granted
amateur radio license. New licensees will take longer to
process, both at the ARRL (for ARRL VEC) and at the
FCC.


An FCC Commissioner could snap his/her fingers and make an
application "happen", but it won't ever happen with YOUR name on it...

"No Code" has been the law of the land for over a week, now.

Any perusal of ULS will show hundreds of people who've taken the
test SINCE then are already licensed and have been for days.

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This demonstrates that Len is not up to speed on application handling
procedures. The ARRL and the FCC handle NEW applications first, upgrades
next, and vanity applications last. This is their operating policy.
Afterall some one with an existing license can operate while they wait for
the upgrade or vanity call.

New license processing normally takes 5 to 10 days. Upgrades also take 5 to
10 days but are done after processing the new licensees. At the ARRL they
are processing faster than normal despite the increased number of forms to
go through as they put on extra staff in anticipation of this.

Vanity calls are special processing and are not handled by the VECs (except
for renewals). One must apply directly to the FCC and they take 3 weeks or
more.

Dee, N8UZE


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On Mar 3, 3:02�pm, "Dee Flint" wrote:
"K4YZ" wrote in message

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On Mar 1, 7:32?pm, "


This demonstrates that Len is not up to speed on application handling
procedures.


Not being an amateur licensee NOR a voting member of the ARRL
may be at fault...however I've been licensed as a Commercial radio
operator for 51 years. In that time there were a LOT of changes
of "procedure." The privatization of operator testing was a major
change some two decades (give or take) ago...BOTH for amateur
and professional license testing.

Is "knowledge of application handling" an IMPORTANT bit of
amateur radio operator knowledge? I don't think so. The NCVEC
doesn't think so.

*The ARRL and the FCC handle NEW applications first, upgrades
next, and vanity applications last. *This is their operating policy.


Is it? :-) I'm not going to rush to the FCC website to check
that
and I don't care to dispute the League on what they say...

Afterall some one with an existing license can operate while they wait for
the upgrade or vanity call.


NOT LEGALLY if their "existing license" is IN their grace period.
Hasn't N2EY reminded you yet? :-)

New license processing normally takes 5 to 10 days.


According to an ARRL VEC VE team leader, N6ZZK, it takes 10
to 15 days. I've talked to Ted and shaken hands with him, am I
to believe you over him?

*Upgrades also take 5 to
10 days but are done after processing the new licensees.


That depends on surface mail delivery from VE teams to the
ARRL VEC in Newington, CT. East coasties will get their
mail there the first (usually). West coasties (in CONUS) get
there next to last; Alaska and Hawaii are nearly last but the
island possessions in the Pacific WILL be last on delivering
ARRL VEC paperwork to Newington.

*At the ARRL they
are processing faster than normal despite the increased number of forms to
go through as they put on extra staff in anticipation of this.


Just so terribly wonderful, ain't it? :-)

I haven't seen any photos at the ARRL website that show sweaty
workers spending all kinds of hours a day, no one with dark circles
under their eyes from all that "overtime."

Vanity calls are special processing and are not handled by the VECs (except
for renewals). *One must apply directly to the FCC and they take 3 weeks or
more.


Tsk, tsk. You forgot to mention that you can't get a Vanity call
UNLESS you already have a legal operator license. Rather
important thing to remember, that...

73, LA


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