On Mar 10, 10:28 am, "KH6HZ" wrote:
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As if there's something wrong with being in favor of
Morse Code - not the test, the mode itself.

The TEST.

Pretty much. A textbook example of how a large segment of the "No Code
Agenda" isn't about simply removing the code test, but instead is interested
in destroying the mode itself, due to some irrational hatred of the mode of
operation.

The TEST.

The funny part about Mark's rant is even if there were an adequate number of
Extra-class operators around to give him a test, it is not outside the realm
of possibility that those Extras might have been licensed after 2000, and
could have only passed the fairly trivial 5wpm code examination to obtain
their Extra-class license.

Only Pro-Code Test Advocated trivialize the 5WPM Exam.

And exactly how does the 5WPM Exam disqualify them from being a VE?

I am reminded of someone who accused certain
VEs of "fraud" simply because they presided over
the license testing of a young amateur,

I seem to recall that too. And, if I remember correctly, the accuser wasn't
even a licensed amateur at the time of the accusation.

I seem to recall a world famous DXer working out of band Frenchmen on
6 meters.

I seem to recall an RF Commando telling others how to live their
amateur lives, all the while faking up a bunch of clubs and using an
out of CONUS PO Box to glom up a whole bunch of DX callsigns.

So I'll say "THANK YOU" to Dee, and all VEs who help
with the licensing process.

Most definitely. I've been to 4 VE sessions in my lifetime, and that was
enough for me.

73
kh6hz

How many COLEM exams?

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Only Pro-Code Test Advocated trivialize the 5WPM Exam.

Am I a pro-code test advocate?

For the vast majority of people (say, those who are not severely mentally
retarded), the 5wpm is a trivial examination. It involves little more than a
mental table lookup... "Dadidadit..... ummm... that's a C'".

Of course, there are always exceptions, and that's why VE teams could do a
variety of things to aid people in passing their code examination (changing
the tone of the tape, giving people more time to write things down during
the test, etc. I'm sure Dee could tell us more on how VE teams can
accomodate folks).

Memorizing the table requires some effort... but in reality probably little
more effort than people put into 'memorizing' the question pools prior to
taking an examination.


And exactly how does the 5WPM Exam disqualify them from being a VE?

Did I state somewhere that a 5wpm examination disqualified them from being a
VE? I must have missed that, or typed in invisible ink. I can't see it in my
original posting.


I seem to recall a world famous DXer working out of band Frenchmen on
6 meters.

I wouldn't know who world-famous DXers are. Virtually all my contacts are
stateside. Never been much of a DX chaser myself.


I seem to recall an RF Commando telling others how to live their
amateur lives, all the while faking up a bunch of clubs and using an
out of CONUS PO Box to glom up a whole bunch of DX callsigns.

Who might that be? Can you give an example how these folks tell "others how
to live their amateur lives"?

Perhaps (for example purposes only) you mean some of these amateurs may have
filed comments with the FCC calling for a reduction in code testing to 5wpm
with a 'sunset clause' eliminating it altogether once the treaty requirement
was removed?

So, you don't like those types of amateurs telling you how to live your
amateur life, a-la removing the code test? Well, I suppose if you're a
die-hard 20wpm code tester, I can see how you'd be upset by that. Have no
fear though, Brian, you can continue to make those 20+wpm code contacts all
you want, even with the pesky little code test gone.


How many COLEM exams?

I've been to two. One for my General Radiotelephone and a 2nd for my GMDSS
Operator/Maintainer license (needed that for my ocean-going trawler based in
Washington, dontcha know). How about you?

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On Mar 10, 10:28 am, "KH6HZ" wrote:
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The funny part about Mark's rant is even if there were an adequate number of
Extra-class operators around to give him a test, it is not outside the realm
of possibility that those Extras might have been licensed after 2000, and
could have only passed the fairly trivial 5wpm code examination to obtain
their Extra-class license.

Only Pro-Code Test Advocated trivialize the 5WPM Exam.

That's incorrect. Anyone who passed a 13 wpm or 20 wpm Morse test could
trivialize a 5 wpm exam. Five words per minute does not demonstrate
Morse Code proficiency.

I am reminded of someone who accused certain
VEs of "fraud" simply because they presided over
the license testing of a young amateur,
I seem to recall that too. And, if I remember correctly, the accuser wasn't
even a licensed amateur at the time of the accusation.

I seem to recall a world famous DXer working out of band Frenchmen on
6 meters.

I don't believe it is possible for one to recall something in which he
was not present or involved.

Dave K8MN

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I seem to recall a world famous DXer working out of band Frenchmen on
6 meters.

So this DX'er was out of his allocation? or were the Frenchman out of
theirs? Seems if the latter, than they are at fault. Perhaps being to good
little soldier, you could report them to the Ohio Ag as well.


Hmmm, I seem to recall reading about a certian someone working people not
only out band, but out of their allocation in a foreign country with no
legal written authorization

Hmmmmmm




I seem to recall an RF Commando telling others how to live their
amateur lives, all the while faking up a bunch of clubs and using an
out of CONUS PO Box to glom up a whole bunch of DX callsigns.

So I'll say "THANK YOU" to Dee, and all VEs who help
with the licensing process.

Most definitely. I've been to 4 VE sessions in my lifetime, and that was
enough for me.

73
kh6hz

By the way Bry, does you hbeing silent on the fact that the elderly one
fromm the left coast has threatened people mean you condone his viilence
against others? Seems you have a great double standard there Bry

How's that report on me going. Should be at least 500 words double spaced

Bry..you are the tool's tool

Dean
Anchors Away

On Mar 10, 11:29 am, "Dean M" wrote:

How's that report on me going. Should be at least 500 words double spaced

The report was completed back when I said I made it.

Do you think I have super-human powers from the planet Krypton to have
you picked up with a single phone call just on my say so???

"Dialing...." Hi, hi! What a pair of idiots you are.

Bry..you are the tool's tool

Dean
Anchors Away

Fair wind and following seas and all that, embarassing Son of DOS

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On Mar 10, 11:29 am, "Dean M" wrote:

How's that report on me going. Should be at least 500 words double
spaced

The report was completed back when I said I made it.

I so doubt that. You're all bluster like your trainer



Do you think I have super-human powers from the planet Krypton to have
you picked up with a single phone call just on my say so???

I guess you answered that

Actually I see you as a Bizzaro planet inhabitant



"Dialing...." Hi, hi! What a pair of idiots you are.

Bry..you are the tool's tool

Dean
Anchors Away

Fair wind and following seas and all that, embarassing Son of DOS

And here I thought you were so morally against name calling??!! Daughter of
Satan..indeed

What a trained little monkey you really are. Acn you do any other tricks
there Bry??

On Mar 10, 8:32 pm, "Dean M" wrote:
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On Mar 10, 11:29 am, "Dean M" wrote:

How's that report on me going. Should be at least 500 words double
spaced

The report was completed back when I said I made it.

I so doubt that. You're all bluster like your trainer

I so don't care. But here's an interesting little factoid so that
you'll sleep better at night:

You asked for my State's Attorney General and I gave his info to you,
but I had merely reported you to your ISP.

You jump to conclusions then harass me when the AG office doesn't
check on you. What an idiot.

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On Mar 10, 8:32 pm, "Dean M" wrote:
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On Mar 10, 11:29 am, "Dean M" wrote:

How's that report on me going. Should be at least 500 words double
spaced

The report was completed back when I said I made it.

I so doubt that. You're all bluster like your trainer

I so don't care. But here's an interesting little factoid so that
you'll sleep better at night:

You asked for my State's Attorney General and I gave his info to you,
but I had merely reported you to your ISP.


Oh my gosh gee whiz there Bry You stated previously that you reported this
to the Ohio AG. Now you back pedal and state you reported to my ISP. Which
one is the truth there Bry? Taking lessions from Marcus Stupideous I C.

No problem, My ISP, if indeeed I am posting from them gave you comlaint the
same weight and thoght as I imagine the Ohio AG did NONE!!!! ha ha he he

You make me raff


You jump to conclusions then harass me when the AG office doesn't
check on you. What an idiot.

How can you be harrassed in a public forum there BRY? No one forces you to
read anything, no one forces you you to reply. Taking lessons from thae
ither trained monkey Marcus Idiotous I C

Feel free to report me to the FCC as well there Bry. I am sure they'll give
you the same consideration as the others

You very funny man, you make me raff or on this case ralph

Ta ta Turtle man give my regards to the rest of the Bizzaro people

Hey Bry could be a new Batman villian... Bluster Man a villian who
attempts to defaet his enemies with lies, inneuendo and various blustery
phrases

Maybe you should go back to Michigan there Bry, I am sure Marcus Deviatous
would puit you up

It's been fun Have a week

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On Mar 10, 8:32 pm, "Dean M" wrote:
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On Mar 10, 11:29 am, "Dean M" wrote:

How's that report on me going. Should be at least 500 words double
spaced

The report was completed back when I said I made it.

I so doubt that. You're all bluster like your trainer

I so don't care. But here's an interesting little factoid so that
you'll sleep better at night:

You asked for my State's Attorney General and I gave his info to you,
but I had merely reported you to your ISP.

Oh my gosh gee whiz there Bry You stated previously that you reported this
to the Ohio AG.

No. You jumped to a conclusion because you're a paranoid little
freak. I let you work under a false assumption all this time.

Now you back pedal and state you reported to my ISP. Which
one is the truth there Bry? Taking lessions from Marcus Stupideous I C.

No backpedalling. I'm just not responsible for how your freaky little
mind works.

No problem, My ISP, if indeeed I am posting from them gave you comlaint the
same weight and thoght as I imagine the Ohio AG did NONE!!!! ha ha he he

I never contacted the AG's office. You made that assumption up all by
yourself.

You make me raff

You make yourself riff and raff.

You jump to conclusions then harass me when the AG office doesn't
check on you. What an idiot.

How can you be harrassed in a public forum there BRY? No one forces you to
read anything, no one forces you you to reply. Taking lessons from thae
ither trained monkey Marcus Idiotous I C

You you make all kinds of assumptions. Too bad for you.

Feel free to report me to the FCC as well there Bry. I am sure they'll give
you the same consideration as the others

Nah. I'll wait for you to really screw up, then... "Dialing..."

You very funny man, you make me raff or on this case ralph

So now you're claiming to be Riff-Ralph? How appropriate.

Ta ta Turtle man give my regards to the rest of the Bizzaro people

Hey Bry could be a new Batman villian... Bluster Man a villian who
attempts to defaet his enemies with lies, inneuendo and various blustery
phrases

Maybe you should go back to Michigan there Bry, I am sure Marcus Deviatous
would puit you up

It's been fun Have a week

Sayonara Mr. Riff-Ralph.

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On Mar 10, 8:32 pm, "Dean M" wrote:
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On Mar 10, 11:29 am, "Dean M" wrote:

How's that report on me going. Should be at least 500 words double
spaced

The report was completed back when I said I made it.

I so doubt that. You're all bluster like your trainer

I so don't care. But here's an interesting little factoid so that
you'll sleep better at night:

You asked for my State's Attorney General and I gave his info to you,
but I had merely reported you to your ISP.

You jump to conclusions then harass me when the AG office doesn't
check on you. What an idiot.

Awwww....did you go crying to somebody's ISP? Poor baby.
That is so Wiseman of you.