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Medical branches were one way for objectors to serve; another was a religious chaplain or chaplain assistant. Some objectors did amazing things, too: http://historynet.com/vn/bltombennett/index1.html http://www.medalofhonor.com/DesmondDoss.htm 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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From: on Dec 17, 8:24 am
wrote: wrote: Frank Gilliland wrote: On 16 Dec 2005 14:50:22 -0800, wrote in snip Total all classes - 661,630 (decrease of 13,162) Oh no!!! Better get them ham recruiters out to those high-schools and colleges and uni-varsities..... gotta sign them up young ya know..... can't have them becoming professionals until after they pass through the amateur ranks!!!! At first the law professors at the universities tried to stop campus recruiting, but the Supreme Court told them that they took federal dollars, so must allow fed recruiting. Which law professors at which universities? The ones being interviewed on NPR, whining and crying and wringing "thier" hands. Brian and Frank; This is getting to be a fun thread. Anal-retentive morsemen NOT understanding, let alone recognizing, SATIRE! And for which war? The recruitment of hams on High School and College campuses. Everyone's upset about it. :-) I'm surprised Jimmie hasn't pulled out the old league wartime factoids about hams serving in WW2...not understanding what this sub-thread is about... Then the law professors decided to use freedom of speech to anti-recruit on campuses, "Hell No, We Won't Go!". Was that not allowed? Must all citizens support all war efforts supported by The President, regardless of their consciences, and regardless of the facts? Fortunately for you, those that served protect the freedoms of those that seved in other ways, or say they served in other ways, or didn't serve at all. Jimmie is busy, busy "serving" on keeping the code test forever and ever, perhaps using "CW" as a "weapon against terrorists" in our "war on terror!" Yawn... |
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wrote: wrote: KØHB wrote: What does anyone know about Jim? Depends on who the "anyone" is. Some people know a lot, others know less. I'm going to guess that within moments of turning 18, he was attending college in Canada. Your guess is way off. I've never attended college outside the USA. Ever been to Canada? Ever lived abroad? |
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wrote: KØHB wrote: Medical branches were one way for objectors to serve; another was a religious chaplain or chaplain assistant. Some objectors did amazing things, too: http://historynet.com/vn/bltombennett/index1.html http://www.medalofhonor.com/DesmondDoss.htm 73 de Jim, N2EY Welp, Jim, I thought you were covertly trying to get us to find your "service in other ways." So I went to the Medal of Honor website and searched "Miccolis." ------------------------------------------------------- powered by Search WWW Search www.medalofhonor.com Your search - Miccolis - did not match any documents. Suggestions: Make sure all words are spelled correctly. Try different keywords. Try more general keywords. Try fewer keywords. ------------------------------------------------------ This kind of reminds me of the time that Dave was desperately trying to get me to see that he was an A-1 Operator, except, unlike Dave actually being listed in the A-1Operator list, you are not mentioned on the Medal of Honor list. |
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wrote: an_old_friend wrote: wrote: These are the numbers of current, unexpired amateur radio licenses held by individuals on the stated dates, and the percentage of the total number of active licenses that class contains: As of May 14, 2000: simple question care to explain or not Mark, Who says "len" is not allowed to count the number of current, unexpired amateur radio licenses held by individuals? Jim, I put on my thnking cap, reread Marks new thread subject, and his question in the body of his post, and nowhere do I see words to the effect, "Who says "len" is not allowed to count the number of current, unexpired amateur radio licenses held by individuals?" Why do you change the context of Mark's question? Who says he can't post it here? That question was not asked either. Marks speaks on "unsupervised counting." Why do you change the context of Mark's question? Not me. Yes you. You protest "unsupervised counting." |
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wrote: From: on Dec 17, 8:24 am wrote: wrote: Frank Gilliland wrote: On 16 Dec 2005 14:50:22 -0800, wrote in snip Total all classes - 661,630 (decrease of 13,162) Oh no!!! Better get them ham recruiters out to those high-schools and colleges and uni-varsities..... gotta sign them up young ya know..... can't have them becoming professionals until after they pass through the amateur ranks!!!! At first the law professors at the universities tried to stop campus recruiting, but the Supreme Court told them that they took federal dollars, so must allow fed recruiting. Which law professors at which universities? Franklin Unilateral College at Kennsington University. You can imagine what was lettered on their sweatshirts... :-) I see him in a different role. In a Safety Yellow colored vest with N2EY stencilled on the right side of his chest, a peace sign on the left, and "Emergency Services" on the back, bullhorn in hand, I envision Jim on College Campi, shouting down the ham recruiters, decrying the unjustness of recruiting practices that target young people, people barely old enough to serve in other ways, having to forego a lucrative careers in engjneering and technology, and instead serve "thier" country in a worthless endeavor. It's all soooo wrong. Prolly smokin a doobie afterwards with John Foggerty playing "Fortunate Son" in the background. The NPR reporters gather around to interview this oh-so-wise anti-recruiting patriot. Pffffft. Boggles the mind, donut? :-) |
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wrote: KØHB wrote: Medical branches were one way for objectors to serve; another was a religious chaplain or chaplain assistant. Some objectors did amazing things, too: http://historynet.com/vn/bltombennett/index1.html http://www.medalofhonor.com/DesmondDoss.htm 73 de Jim, N2EY Welp, Jim, I thought you were covertly trying to get us to find your "service in other ways." So I went to the Medal of Honor website and searched "Miccolis." ------------------------------------------------------- powered by Search WWW Search www.medalofhonor.com Your search - Miccolis - did not match any documents. Suggestions: Make sure all words are spelled correctly. Try different keywords. Try more general keywords. Try fewer keywords. ------------------------------------------------------ This kind of reminds me of the time that Dave was desperately trying to get me to see that he was an A-1 Operator, except, unlike Dave actually being listed in the A-1Operator list, you are not mentioned on the Medal of Honor list. I seem to recall that incident. It followed one of your posts where you named all of the regulars who were *not* A-1 Ops. You looked pretty silly that time too. Dave K8MN |
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Dave Heil wrote: wrote: wrote: KØHB wrote: Medical branches were one way for objectors to serve; another was a religious chaplain or chaplain assistant. Some objectors did amazing things, too: http://historynet.com/vn/bltombennett/index1.html http://www.medalofhonor.com/DesmondDoss.htm 73 de Jim, N2EY Welp, Jim, I thought you were covertly trying to get us to find your "service in other ways." So I went to the Medal of Honor website and searched "Miccolis." ------------------------------------------------------- powered by Search WWW Search www.medalofhonor.com Your search - Miccolis - did not match any documents. Suggestions: Make sure all words are spelled correctly. Try different keywords. Try more general keywords. Try fewer keywords. ------------------------------------------------------ This kind of reminds me of the time that Dave was desperately trying to get me to see that he was an A-1 Operator, except, unlike Dave actually being listed in the A-1Operator list, you are not mentioned on the Medal of Honor list. I seem to recall that incident. It followed one of your posts where you named all of the regulars who were *not* A-1 Ops. You looked pretty silly that time too. Dave K8MN "Not" A-1 Ops. That's right. It was an easy mistake to make. I mean who would have guessed that you were an A-1 Op? Anyway, "Miccolis" wasn't on the Medal of Honor list. |
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Dave Heil wrote: wrote: wrote: KØHB wrote: Medical branches were one way for objectors to serve; another was a religious chaplain or chaplain assistant. Some objectors did amazing things, too: http://historynet.com/vn/bltombennett/index1.html http://www.medalofhonor.com/DesmondDoss.htm 73 de Jim, N2EY Welp, Jim, I thought you were covertly trying to get us to find your "service in other ways." So I went to the Medal of Honor website and searched "Miccolis." ------------------------------------------------------- powered by Search WWW Search www.medalofhonor.com Your search - Miccolis - did not match any documents. Suggestions: Make sure all words are spelled correctly. Try different keywords. Try more general keywords. Try fewer keywords. ------------------------------------------------------ This kind of reminds me of the time that Dave was desperately trying to get me to see that he was an A-1 Operator, except, unlike Dave actually being listed in the A-1Operator list, you are not mentioned on the Medal of Honor list. I seem to recall that incident. It followed one of your posts where you named all of the regulars who were *not* A-1 Ops. You looked pretty silly that time too. Dave K8MN "Not" A-1 Ops. That's right. It was an easy mistake to make. You presented a list of r.r.a.p. posters who were A-1 Ops and proceeded to state with authority those r.r.a.p. posters who were *not* A-1 Ops. Apparently, it was another case where you didn't know what you were talking about. I mean who would have guessed that you were an A-1 Op? Those who'd spent any time listening to me operate and who were capable of telling the difference? Dave K8MN |
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Dave Heil wrote: wrote: Dave Heil wrote: wrote: wrote: KØHB wrote: Medical branches were one way for objectors to serve; another was a religious chaplain or chaplain assistant. Some objectors did amazing things, too: http://historynet.com/vn/bltombennett/index1.html http://www.medalofhonor.com/DesmondDoss.htm 73 de Jim, N2EY Welp, Jim, I thought you were covertly trying to get us to find your "service in other ways." So I went to the Medal of Honor website and searched "Miccolis." ------------------------------------------------------- powered by Search WWW Search www.medalofhonor.com Your search - Miccolis - did not match any documents. Suggestions: Make sure all words are spelled correctly. Try different keywords. Try more general keywords. Try fewer keywords. ------------------------------------------------------ This kind of reminds me of the time that Dave was desperately trying to get me to see that he was an A-1 Operator, except, unlike Dave actually being listed in the A-1Operator list, you are not mentioned on the Medal of Honor list. I seem to recall that incident. It followed one of your posts where you named all of the regulars who were *not* A-1 Ops. You looked pretty silly that time too. Dave K8MN "Not" A-1 Ops. That's right. It was an easy mistake to make. You presented a list of r.r.a.p. posters who were A-1 Ops and proceeded to state with authority those r.r.a.p. posters who were *not* A-1 Ops. Apparently, it was another case where you didn't know what you were talking about. Still holding a grudge, is see. I mean who would have guessed that you were an A-1 Op? Those who'd spent any time listening to me operate and who were capable of telling the difference? Sure. They're free to guess. They'd stand a 50-50 chance of being right. |
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wrote: wrote: KØHB wrote: Medical branches were one way for objectors to serve; another was a religious chaplain or chaplain assistant. Some objectors did amazing things, too: http://historynet.com/vn/bltombennett/index1.html http://www.medalofhonor.com/DesmondDoss.htm 73 de Jim, N2EY Welp, Jim, I thought you were covertly trying to get us to find your "service in other ways" Why would anyone think that? It's not about me. |
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wrote: wrote: wrote: KØHB wrote: Medical branches were one way for objectors to serve; another was a religious chaplain or chaplain assistant. Some objectors did amazing things, too: http://historynet.com/vn/bltombennett/index1.html http://www.medalofhonor.com/DesmondDoss.htm 73 de Jim, N2EY Welp, Jim, I thought you were covertly trying to get us to find your "service in other ways" Why would anyone think that? It's not about me. Were you an objector? Did you serve in other ways? |
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wrote: wrote: wrote: K0HB wrote: Medical branches were one way for objectors to serve; another was a religious chaplain or chaplain assistant. Hans was unable to unbend enough to see your original comment to Frank's jab at "ham recruiting." Some objectors did amazing things, too: http://historynet.com/vn/bltombennett/index1.html http://www.medalofhonor.com/DesmondDoss.htm Welp, Jim, I thought you were covertly trying to get us to find your "service in other ways" Why would anyone think that? It's not about me. Were you an objector? Did you serve in other ways? Jimmie Noserve OBJECTS to anyone even thinking about deleting the morse code test for an amateur license. Jimmie SERVES the Code Cause by leading the charge of the ultralight brigade, galloping his hearse into bottle, bug paddles swinging left and right. "Into the Valley of Dearth rode the four wondered..." bee bop |
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wrote: From: on Dec 18, 8:07 am wrote: wrote: wrote: K0HB wrote: Medical branches were one way for objectors to serve; another was a religious chaplain or chaplain assistant. Hans was unable to unbend enough to see your original comment to Frank's jab at "ham recruiting." Nor Jim. Jim starts spazzing whenever I mention NPR. I had to laugh, NPR was running a fund-raiser not too long ago and they were crying about Air America stealing away donations that were rightfully "thiers." NPR were here first. Hi! Some objectors did amazing things, too: http://historynet.com/vn/bltombennett/index1.html http://www.medalofhonor.com/DesmondDoss.htm Welp, Jim, I thought you were covertly trying to get us to find your "service in other ways" Why would anyone think that? It's not about me. Were you an objector? Did you serve in other ways? Jimmie Noserve OBJECTS to anyone even thinking about deleting the morse code test for an amateur license. Jimmie SERVES the Code Cause by leading the charge of the ultralight brigade, galloping his hearse into bottle, bug paddles swinging left and right. "Into the Valley of Dearth rode the four wondered..." bee bop It's understandable that Jim doesn't want to discuss the circumstances of why he didn't serve. But he sure is a interested in military history. Knows all about it. |
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wrote: From: on Dec 18, 8:07 am wrote: wrote: wrote: K0HB wrote: Medical branches were one way for objectors to serve; another was a religious chaplain or chaplain assistant. Hans was unable to unbend enough to see your original comment to Frank's jab at "ham recruiting." Nor Jim. Jim starts spazzing whenever I mention NPR. I know! :-) I had to laugh, NPR was running a fund-raiser not too long ago and they were crying about Air America stealing away donations that were rightfully "thiers." NPR were here first. Hi! Territorial Imperative of the Liberal Do-gooders. They are "all about money." :-) It's understandable that Jim doesn't want to discuss the circumstances of why he didn't serve. But he sure is a interested in military history. Knows all about it. Jimmie seems to "know all about anything" he babbles about. He's read some and can search the Internet (like anyone else) and then is a wannabe guru on the anything. :-( |
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Dave Heil wrote: wrote: From: on Dec 18, 5:08 pm It's understandable that Jim doesn't want to discuss the circumstances of why he didn't serve. But he sure is a interested in military history. Knows all about it. Jimmie seems to "know all about anything" he babbles about. He's read some and can search the Internet (like anyone else) and then is a wannabe guru on the anything. :-( Since all who have access to a computer and the internet can search (not like *everyone else*), what then accounts for your frequent and numerous factual inaccuracies? Dave K8MN Dave, I especially like the part where you worked out of band Frenchmen on 6 meters. |
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wrote: From: on Dec 18, 5:08 pm It's understandable that Jim doesn't want to discuss the circumstances of why he didn't serve. But he sure is a interested in military history. Knows all about it. Jimmie seems to "know all about anything" he babbles about. He's read some and can search the Internet (like anyone else) and then is a wannabe guru on the anything. :-( Since all who have access to a computer and the internet can search (not like *everyone else*), what then accounts for your frequent and numerous factual inaccuracies? My "frequent and numerous factual inaccuracies?!?" :-) Davie boy, you will have to do much better than that little INACCURATE statement of yours. :-) Let's look at the PCTA "side" and check out some really big MISTAKES written by The Chosen Ones: Who wrote, on 10 December in he "The FCC doesn't license radio amateurs." Or, a year to two years ago, frequently: "MARS IS amateur radio." Davie, you just settle down and don't spazz so much on certain folks. You only make yourself look pompous, arrogant and you WILL wind up the target of lots of uncomplimentary-to-you comments...as have already happened in here. shrug |
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wrote: an_old_friend wrote: wrote: These are the numbers of current, unexpired amateur radio licenses held by individuals on the stated dates, and the percentage of the total number of active licenses that class contains: As of May 14, 2000: simple question care to explain or not Mark, Who says "len" is not allowed to count the number of current, unexpired amateur radio licenses held by individuals? Jim, I put on my thnking cap, reread Marks new thread subject, and his question in the body of his post, and nowhere do I see words to the effect, "Who says "len" is not allowed to count the number of current, unexpired amateur radio licenses held by individuals?" Why do you change the context of Mark's question? becuase he has not valid answer but you knew that of course Who says he can't post it here? That question was not asked either. Marks speaks on "unsupervised counting." Why do you change the context of Mark's question? Not me. Yes you. You protest "unsupervised counting." everyone should be advised that The following person has been advocating the abuse of elders making false charges of child rape, rape in general forges post and name he may also be making flase reports of abusing other in order to attak and cow his foes he also shows signs of being dangerously unstable STEVEN J ROBESON 151 12TH AVE NW WINCHESTER TN 37398 931-967-6282 _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
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wrote: From: Dave Heil on Dec 19, 10:50 am wrote: From: on Dec 18, 5:08 pm It's understandable that Jim doesn't want to discuss the circumstances of why he didn't serve. But he sure is a interested in military history. Knows all about it. Jimmie seems to "know all about anything" he babbles about. He's read some and can search the Internet (like anyone else) and then is a wannabe guru on the anything. :-( Since all who have access to a computer and the internet can search (not like *everyone else*), what then accounts for your frequent and numerous factual inaccuracies? My "frequent and numerous factual inaccuracies?!?" :-) Davie boy, you will have to do much better than that little INACCURATE statement of yours. :-) Let's look at the PCTA "side" and check out some really big MISTAKES written by The Chosen Ones: Who wrote, on 10 December in he "The FCC doesn't license radio amateurs." They don't? I guess the FCC has no regulatory authority over civil radio in the US of A. Or, a year to two years ago, frequently: "MARS IS amateur radio." It's starting to make sense. Jims says the FCC fined some idiot for jamming MARS nets. So although the FCC no longer has regulatory authority over civil radio, they've taken up enforcing military radio and MARS nets. Sheesh! Davie, you just settle down and don't spazz so much on certain folks. You only make yourself look pompous, arrogant and you WILL wind up the target of lots of uncomplimentary-to-you comments...as have already happened in here. shrug I especially liked him self-identifying as a DXer who works out of band Frenchmen on 6 meters. |
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wrote: From: Dave Heil on Dec 19, 10:50 am wrote: From: on Dec 18, 5:08 pm It's understandable that Jim doesn't want to discuss the circumstances of why he didn't serve. But he sure is a interested in military history. Knows all about it. Jimmie seems to "know all about anything" he babbles about. He's read some and can search the Internet (like anyone else) and then is a wannabe guru on the anything. :-( Since all who have access to a computer and the internet can search (not like *everyone else*), what then accounts for your frequent and numerous factual inaccuracies? My "frequent and numerous factual inaccuracies?!?" :-) Davie boy, you will have to do much better than that little INACCURATE statement of yours. :-) Let's look at the PCTA "side" and check out some really big MISTAKES written by The Chosen Ones: Who wrote, on 10 December in he "The FCC doesn't license radio amateurs." They don't? I guess the FCC has no regulatory authority over civil radio in the US of A. Depends on which Alternate Universe Jimmie is inhabiting at the moment. In ours they DO have regulatory authority. In others they probably don't. :-) Or, a year to two years ago, frequently: "MARS IS amateur radio." It's starting to make sense. Jims says the FCC fined some idiot for jamming MARS nets. So although the FCC no longer has regulatory authority over civil radio, they've taken up enforcing military radio and MARS nets. Sheesh! Those Alternate Universes are tough areas to inhabit! I wish those folks would leave their imaginary Universes and re-enter reality. Davie, you just settle down and don't spazz so much on certain folks. You only make yourself look pompous, arrogant and you WILL wind up the target of lots of uncomplimentary-to-you comments...as have already happened in here. shrug I especially liked him self-identifying as a DXer who works out of band Frenchmen on 6 meters. Davie explained that he was not responsible, cannot regulate others' use of the ham bands. Then he turns right around and tries to bully others in newsgroups. shrug Oh, well... Maybe he's been spending too much time at "the lodge" by the fire, sipping rum with the rest of his "out-of-banders'" banterers? :-) |
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wrote: From: on Dec 22, 9:53 am wrote: From: Dave Heil on Dec 19, 10:50 am wrote: From: on Dec 18, 5:08 pm It's understandable that Jim doesn't want to discuss the circumstances of why he didn't serve. But he sure is a interested in military history. Knows all about it. Jimmie seems to "know all about anything" he babbles about. He's read some and can search the Internet (like anyone else) and then is a wannabe guru on the anything. :-( Since all who have access to a computer and the internet can search (not like *everyone else*), what then accounts for your frequent and numerous factual inaccuracies? My "frequent and numerous factual inaccuracies?!?" :-) Davie boy, you will have to do much better than that little INACCURATE statement of yours. :-) Let's look at the PCTA "side" and check out some really big MISTAKES written by The Chosen Ones: Who wrote, on 10 December in he "The FCC doesn't license radio amateurs." They don't? I guess the FCC has no regulatory authority over civil radio in the US of A. Depends on which Alternate Universe Jimmie is inhabiting at the moment. In ours they DO have regulatory authority. In others they probably don't. :-) In another thread, he's talking about how hard the FCC exams were when he tested. As if the FCC licenses amateur radio. Or, a year to two years ago, frequently: "MARS IS amateur radio." It's starting to make sense. Jims says the FCC fined some idiot for jamming MARS nets. So although the FCC no longer has regulatory authority over civil radio, they've taken up enforcing military radio and MARS nets. Sheesh! Those Alternate Universes are tough areas to inhabit! The atmospheres are low in oxygen, high in methane. I wish those folks would leave their imaginary Universes and re-enter reality. Are you kidding? They're more entertaining than HBO. Cheaper, too. Davie, you just settle down and don't spazz so much on certain folks. You only make yourself look pompous, arrogant and you WILL wind up the target of lots of uncomplimentary-to-you comments...as have already happened in here. shrug I especially liked him self-identifying as a DXer who works out of band Frenchmen on 6 meters. Davie explained that he was not responsible, cannot regulate others' use of the ham bands. Then he turns right around and tries to bully others in newsgroups. shrug Oh, well... He chastises other folks for not knowing as much about DX as he does, then he pulls a stunt like that. Maybe he's been spending too much time at "the lodge" by the fire, sipping rum with the rest of his "out-of-banders'" banterers? :-) Sipping branchwater. Prolly sippin it when those Frenchmen were calling him. He could have moved it to their legal authorization, you know. |
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wrote: From: on Dec 22, 9:53 am I especially liked him self-identifying as a DXer who works out of band Frenchmen on 6 meters. Davie explained that he was not responsible, cannot regulate others' use of the ham bands. Then he turns right around and tries to bully others in newsgroups. shrug Oh, well... He chastises other folks for not knowing as much about DX as he does, then he pulls a stunt like that. Maybe he's been spending too much time at "the lodge" by the fire, sipping rum with the rest of his "out-of-banders'" banterers? :-) Sipping branchwater. Prolly sippin it when those Frenchmen were calling him. He could have moved it to their legal authorization, you know. Pass along Christmas greetings to your pal, the California Grinch. I'll leave a little something in your tin cup. Maybe you'll do a tap dance for us. I love your red hat. Dave K8MN |
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Dave Heil wrote: wrote: wrote: From: on Dec 22, 9:53 am I especially liked him self-identifying as a DXer who works out of band Frenchmen on 6 meters. Davie explained that he was not responsible, cannot regulate others' use of the ham bands. Then he turns right around and tries to bully others in newsgroups. shrug Oh, well... He chastises other folks for not knowing as much about DX as he does, then he pulls a stunt like that. Maybe he's been spending too much time at "the lodge" by the fire, sipping rum with the rest of his "out-of-banders'" banterers? :-) Sipping branchwater. Prolly sippin it when those Frenchmen were calling him. He could have moved it to their legal authorization, you know. Pass along Christmas greetings to your pal, the California Grinch. I'll leave a little something in your tin cup. Maybe you'll do a tap dance for us. I love your red hat. Dave K8MN Dave, I'll gladly pass along your Christmas greetings, no charge. Len has started a new thread where you can give your wishes to Len or anyone else, but if you can't make the trip, I'll understand. Merry Christmas. bb |
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amateur radio licenses held by individuals on the stated dates, and the percentage of the total number of active licenses that class contains: As of May 14, 2000: Novice - 49,329 (7.3%) Technician - 205,394 (30.4%) Technician Plus - 128,860 (19.1%) General - 112,677 (16.7%) Advanced - 99,782 (14.8%) Extra - 78,750 (11.7%) Total Tech/TechPlus - 334,254 (49.5%) Total General/Advanced/Extra - 291,209 (43.2%) Total all classes - 674,792 As of December 31, 2005: Novice - 26,746 (4.0%) [decrease of 22,583] Technician - 275,144 (41.5%) [increase of 69,750] Technician Plus - 43,921 (6.7%) [decrease of 84,939] General - 135,059 (20.4%) [increase of 22,382] Advanced - 74,220 (11.2%) [decrease of 25,562] Extra - 107,436 (16.2%) [increase of 28,686] Total Tech/TechPlus - 318,459 (48.1%) [decrease of 15,795] Total General/Advanced/Extra - 316,444 (47.8%) [increase of 25,235] Total all classes - 662,526 (decrease of 13,162) Note that these totals do not include licenses that have expired but are in the grace period. They also do not include club, military, RACES or other station-only licenses. Note also that effective April 15, 2000, new Novice, Technician Plus and Advanced licenses are no longer issued. Since April 15, 2000, FCC has renewed all existing Technician Plus licenses as Technician. It is therefore informative to consider the totals of the two classes, since the Technician class includes a significant number of Technician Plus licenses renewed as Technician. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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These are the numbers of current, unexpired
amateur radio licenses held by individuals on the stated dates, and the percentage of the total number of active licenses that class contains: As of May 14, 2000: Novice - 49,329 (7.3%) Technician - 205,394 (30.4%) Technician Plus - 128,860 (19.1%) General - 112,677 (16.7%) Advanced - 99,782 (14.8%) Extra - 78,750 (11.7%) Total Tech/TechPlus - 334,254 (49.5%) Total General/Advanced/Extra - 291,209 (43.2%) Total all classes - 674,792 As of December 31, 2005: Novice - 26,746 (4.0%) [decrease of 22,583] Technician - 275,144 (41.6%) [increase of 69,750] Technician Plus - 43,921 (6.6%) [decrease of 84,939] General - 135,059 (20.4%) [increase of 22,382] Advanced - 74,220 (11.2%) [decrease of 25,562] Extra - 107,436 (16.2%) [increase of 28,686] Total Tech/TechPlus - 319,065 (48.2%) [decrease of 15,189] Total General/Advanced/Extra - 316,715 (47.8%) [increase of 25,506] Total all classes - 662,526 (decrease of 12,266) Note that these totals do not include licenses that have expired but are in the grace period. They also do not include club, military, RACES or other station-only licenses. Note also that effective April 15, 2000, new Novice, Technician Plus and Advanced licenses are no longer issued. Since April 15, 2000, FCC has renewed all existing Technician Plus licenses as Technician. It is therefore informative to consider the totals of the two classes, since the Technician class includes a significant number of Technician Plus licenses renewed as Technician. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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wrote in message ups.com... These are the numbers of current, unexpired amateur radio licenses held by individuals on the stated dates, and the percentage of the total number of active licenses that class contains: As of May 14, 2000: Novice - 49,329 (7.3%) Technician - 205,394 (30.4%) Technician Plus - 128,860 (19.1%) General - 112,677 (16.7%) Advanced - 99,782 (14.8%) Extra - 78,750 (11.7%) Total Tech/TechPlus - 334,254 (49.5%) Total General/Advanced/Extra - 291,209 (43.2%) Total all classes - 674,792 As of December 31, 2005: Novice - 26,746 (4.0%) [decrease of 22,583] Technician - 275,144 (41.6%) [increase of 69,750] Technician Plus - 43,921 (6.6%) [decrease of 84,939] General - 135,059 (20.4%) [increase of 22,382] Advanced - 74,220 (11.2%) [decrease of 25,562] Extra - 107,436 (16.2%) [increase of 28,686] Total Tech/TechPlus - 319,065 (48.2%) [decrease of 15,189] Total General/Advanced/Extra - 316,715 (47.8%) [increase of 25,506] Total all classes - 662,526 (decrease of 12,266) It might also be instructive to look at the totals MINUS the Novice class as I believe we are now at a point that pretty much all the Novices who would have updgraded have done so. Of the remaining pool of Novices, we are losing them by attrition now as they are mainly inactive, not upgrading, and not renewing. Total Minus Novice May 14, 2000 = 625,463 Total Minus Novice Dec 31, 2005 = 635,780 (increase of 10,317 or 1.65%). Perhaps, once the Novice class has died out or come close to it, the "decline" in the numbers of amateur radio operators will cease (although 1.85% total or 1/3 of 1% per year is barely a decline). Personally, I believe that we are simply stabilizing our numbers. I.e. the "market" for ham radio is "saturated" and so we will not experience significant growth and, so long as we do a decent job of recruiting, will not experience a significant decline. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
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"Dee Flint" wrote in message ... wrote in message ups.com... These are the numbers of current, unexpired amateur radio licenses held by individuals on the stated dates, and the percentage of the total number of active licenses that class contains: As of May 14, 2000: Novice - 49,329 (7.3%) Technician - 205,394 (30.4%) Technician Plus - 128,860 (19.1%) General - 112,677 (16.7%) Advanced - 99,782 (14.8%) Extra - 78,750 (11.7%) Total Tech/TechPlus - 334,254 (49.5%) Total General/Advanced/Extra - 291,209 (43.2%) Total all classes - 674,792 As of December 31, 2005: Novice - 26,746 (4.0%) [decrease of 22,583] Technician - 275,144 (41.6%) [increase of 69,750] Technician Plus - 43,921 (6.6%) [decrease of 84,939] General - 135,059 (20.4%) [increase of 22,382] Advanced - 74,220 (11.2%) [decrease of 25,562] Extra - 107,436 (16.2%) [increase of 28,686] Total Tech/TechPlus - 319,065 (48.2%) [decrease of 15,189] Total General/Advanced/Extra - 316,715 (47.8%) [increase of 25,506] Total all classes - 662,526 (decrease of 12,266) It might also be instructive to look at the totals MINUS the Novice class as I believe we are now at a point that pretty much all the Novices who would have updgraded have done so. Of the remaining pool of Novices, we are losing them by attrition now as they are mainly inactive, not upgrading, and not renewing. Total Minus Novice May 14, 2000 = 625,463 Total Minus Novice Dec 31, 2005 = 635,780 (increase of 10,317 or 1.65%). Perhaps, once the Novice class has died out or come close to it, the "decline" in the numbers of amateur radio operators will cease (although 1.85% total or 1/3 of 1% per year is barely a decline). Personally, I believe that we are simply stabilizing our numbers. I.e. the "market" for ham radio is "saturated" and so we will not experience significant growth and, so long as we do a decent job of recruiting, will not experience a significant decline. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE I agree with Dee's analysis. Amateur radio is not likly to suddenly become a new "hot" hobby and is, therefore, going to be fairly stable. Remember too that unlike years ago the US population is fairly stable and not growing at anywhere near the rate it was in the 50s. Cheers & Happy New Year to all Bill K2UNK |
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On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 14:48:40 GMT, "Bill Sohl"
wrote: "Dee Flint" wrote in message ... wrote in message ups.com... These are the numbers of current, unexpired amateur radio licenses held by individuals cut Perhaps, once the Novice class has died out or come close to it, the "decline" in the numbers of amateur radio operators will cease (although 1.85% total or 1/3 of 1% per year is barely a decline). Personally, I believe that we are simply stabilizing our numbers. I.e. the "market" for ham radio is "saturated" and so we will not experience significant growth and, so long as we do a decent job of recruiting, will not experience a significant decline. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE I agree with Dee's analysis. Amateur radio is not likly to suddenly become a new "hot" hobby and is, therefore, going to be fairly stable. Remember too that unlike years ago the US population is fairly stable and not growing at anywhere near the rate it was in the 50s. Cheers & Happy New Year to all Bill K2UNK the term satuated seems uncalled for and if anyone thinks what is going on a decent job of recruiting... _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
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These are the numbers of current, unexpired
amateur radio licenses held by individuals on the stated dates, and the percentage of the total number of active licenses that class contains: As of May 14, 2000: Novice - 49,329 (7.3%) Technician - 205,394 (30.4%) Technician Plus - 128,860 (19.1%) General - 112,677 (16.7%) Advanced - 99,782 (14.8%) Extra - 78,750 (11.7%) Total Tech/TechPlus - 334,254 (49.5%) Total General/Advanced/Extra - 291,209 (43.2%) Total all classes - 674,792 As of January 15, 2006: Novice - 26,669 (4.0%) [decrease of 22,660] Technician - 275,157 (41.6%) [increase of 69,763] Technician Plus - 43,507 (6.6%) [decrease of 85,353] General - 135,013 (20.4%) [increase of 22,336] Advanced - 74,159 (11.2%) [decrease of 25,623] Extra - 107,469 (16.2%) [increase of 28,719] Total Tech/TechPlus - 318,664 (48.1%) [decrease of 15,590] Total General/Advanced/Extra - 316,641 (47.8%) [increase of 25,432] Total all classes - 661,974 (decrease of 12,818) Note that these totals do not include licenses that have expired but are in the grace period. They also do not include club, military, RACES or other station-only licenses. Note also that effective April 15, 2000, new Novice, Technician Plus and Advanced licenses are no longer issued. Since April 15, 2000, FCC has renewed all existing Technician Plus licenses as Technician. It is therefore informative to consider the totals of the two classes, since the Technician class includes a significant number of Technician Plus licenses renewed as Technician. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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These are the numbers of current, unexpired
amateur radio licenses held by individuals on the stated dates, and the percentage of the total number of active licenses that class contains: As of May 14, 2000: Novice - 49,329 (7.3%) Technician - 205,394 (30.4%) Technician Plus - 128,860 (19.1%) General - 112,677 (16.7%) Advanced - 99,782 (14.8%) Extra - 78,750 (11.7%) Total Tech/TechPlus - 334,254 (49.5%) Total General/Advanced/Extra - 291,209 (43.2%) Total all classes - 674,792 As of January 31, 2006: Novice - 26,427 (4.0%) [decrease of 22,902] Technician - 275,842 (41.7%) [increase of 70,448] Technician Plus - 42,761 (6.5%) [decrease of 86,099] General - 134,622 (20.4%) [increase of 21,945] Advanced - 73,819 (11.1%) [decrease of 25,963] Extra - 107,474 (16.3%) [increase of 28,724] Total Tech/TechPlus - 318,603 (48.2%) [decrease of 15,651] Total General/Advanced/Extra - 315,915 (47.8%) [increase of 24,706] Total all classes - 660,945 (decrease of 13,847) Note that these totals do not include licenses that have expired but are in the grace period. They also do not include club, military, RACES or other station-only licenses. Note also that effective April 15, 2000, new Novice, Technician Plus and Advanced licenses are no longer issued. Since April 15, 2000, FCC has renewed all existing Technician Plus licenses as Technician. It is therefore informative to consider the totals of the two classes, since the Technician class includes a significant number of Technician Plus licenses renewed as Technician. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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