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Old January 17th 04, 06:01 AM
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Larry Roll K3LT wrote:

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Actually, aside from a couple of Karjalainen brews in Helsinki in
October, my yearly beer intake is about four bottles. I mostly stick to
vodka or with Jack Daniels and branch water.

Dave K8MN


Dave:

OK, I give up -- what the Sam Hill is "branch water?" I heard it mentioned
a few times on the old TV program "Dallas," when J.R. Ewing used to order
a "bourbon and branch" at the Ahwl (Oil) Baron's Club. Is it water that
dripped off a tree branch during the rain, or did it come from a branch
tributary of some particular river, or what? Or is it just another way of
saying "Club Soda," as I suspect?


Oh Lord no, Larry--nothing fizzy at all. A branch is a swift-running
little stream. There's a town downstate named Jumping Branch. It is
named for a nearby stream.

Dave K8MN
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Old January 17th 04, 06:25 PM
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Larry Roll K3LT wrote:

In article , Dave Heil
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Actually, aside from a couple of Karjalainen brews in Helsinki in
October, my yearly beer intake is about four bottles. I mostly stick to
vodka or with Jack Daniels and branch water.

Dave K8MN


Dave:

OK, I give up -- what the Sam Hill is "branch water?" I heard it mentioned
a few times on the old TV program "Dallas," when J.R. Ewing used to order
a "bourbon and branch" at the Ahwl (Oil) Baron's Club. Is it water that
dripped off a tree branch during the rain, or did it come from a branch
tributary of some particular river, or what? Or is it just another way of
saying "Club Soda," as I suspect?


Oh Lord no, Larry--nothing fizzy at all. A branch is a swift-running
little stream. There's a town downstate named Jumping Branch. It is
named for a nearby stream.

Dave K8MN


It's important to select the branch with the fewest cattle upstream.
Poultry and swine operations are bad news, too.
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Old January 17th 04, 09:02 PM
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(N2EY) wrote in message ...
In article , Dave Heil
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N2EY wrote:

In article , Dave Heil
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N2EY wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message

...
I also like my real analog meter better than a digital
simulation.

My Southgate Type 7 has *two* real analog meters. Nice
easy-to-read round 3-1/2 inch ones.

Also Made In USA.

Do you refer to it as your (get ready for it) two meter rig?

Nope. That's a Heath HW-2036. Only has one meter - analog.


I'm getting confoozed! Your two meter rig is a one meter rig?


Affirmative.

I remember the '2036 and used to own one. I spent a lot of time
fiddling with those VCO coils in the thing. It belongs to a Lebanese
ham in Sierra Leone now. He's probably cursing me every time he has to
fiddle with those coils.

Mine may need a new mike. Ironic.

But my shack clock is digital. It's a Tymeter 24-hour one, made from
the parts of three junkers more than 15 years ago.


Those things are developing some nostalgia value these days.

In some ways clock technology has gone backwards. I remember when almost all
clocks ran on synchronous motors, like my Tymeter. The power co. kept track of
the Hz and would keep the total number of cycles-per-year pretty dern accurate.
I found that all my motor-clocks would stay in step with WWV give or take a
second or to for as long as the power was on.

Then came "digital quartz technology" - and no two clocks read alike. Set them
all to the same time and in a few months they're all over the place. The newer
computers actually seem to keep worse time than the older ones...

But my Tymeter grinds on, flipping the drums.

73 de Jim, N2EY


all to the same time and in a few months they're all over the place. The newer
computers actually seem to keep worse time than the older ones...

But my Tymeter grinds on, flipping the drums.

73 de Jim, N2EY


My artifact Tymeter crapper landed in the dumpster. I guess ya missed
it when you surfed my dumpster pile. Sorry dude.

The stupid thing was bigger than my whole 100W HF TS-50 mobile xcvr
fer chrissake. Off to the landfill with it!

It's replacement:

http://www.sk3bg.se/contest/download.htm

Grab Fastenow's freebie UTCClock file and load it, can't miss.

The newer computers actually seem to keep worse time than the older

ones

I wuz in the McDade Mall parking lot doing some Xmas sorts of things a
month ago when I noticed that my $100 wrist clock had died. I was in
no mood to screw around with changing the battery so I popped into the
K-Mart to pick up any cheap crapper watch which would get me thru the
holidays. Found one. JA-made analog quartz movement, water resistant,
time and date, and except for the ten cent strap it's a very solid
readable no-nonsense watch and it's dual-clibrated, 12/24 hours.
$4.95. That's less than a battery costs for my "good" watch. Ponder
that. I bought two of 'em.

I set watch #2 five hours ahead of our local time, bingo, UTC
time/date without a computer or the mains. I'll use it when I'm on the
air and not using the 'puter. About a month later both my $4.95 K-Mart
wrist clocks are 2-3 seconds ahead. A P5 is not gonna QSL because any
of my clocks are three seconds off??

The BA issue of QST really was a bit much. You tube-huggers need to
nag the ARRL into launching another of their specialized magazines
like the NCJ and QEX so that you people can wallow in yer ARC-5s and
DX-60s without loading QST with it.

w3rv
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Old January 19th 04, 03:50 PM
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KØHB wrote:

"Bert Craig" wrote


I feel for the poor slob who finally breaks
down and buys a '7800 just before the '7800
Pro or Pro II comes out.



First of all, I don't think he'd be poor, and why are you calling me a slob?

I'm placing my order.

73, de Hans, K0HB



Good for you, Hans! I hope to join you some day! I remember some time
ago two different friends of mine telling me that ICOM sold almost 10
times as many IC-781s as they had forecast when it was being designed.
Both were in a position to know -- one was a former ICOM National
Service Manager and the other was the owner of a large amateur radio
store.

73,

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Old January 19th 04, 06:01 PM
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N2EY wrote:


The newer
computers actually seem to keep worse time than the older ones...


Not an issue. When the 'puter clock here is noticeably off time vs.
WWV I simply ping NIST and let them reset it. My tax dollars at work.
YMMV.

http://www.boulder.nist.gov/timefreq...-computer.html


KEWL!

Of course there are also clocks an watches that "listen" to WWVB
and reset themselves as needed.

But my Tymeter grinds on, flipping the drums.


. . groan . . !


It works! The battery-operated clock above it in the pictures (you
saw my shack pix, I presume) is the backup and local timekeeper.
The Tymeter just keeps doing its job. Simple technology - watta
concept.

Every so often I tune in WWV on the '342 just for a check. Usually
the Tymeter is dead on.

Did I ever show ya the pix of my trip to Boulder NIST and Fort
Collins?
A few years back - got shots of the then-standard atomic clocks and
the transmitter site. Plus me standing by the transmitter site sign.

73 de Jim, N2EY
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Old January 22nd 04, 02:25 AM
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Len Over 21 wrote:

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Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Dave Heil


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I believe that's the beauty of the Orion, it's never "ancient." The

latest
upgrade is just a download away. I feel for the poor slob who finally
breaks
down and buys a '7800 just before the '7800 Pro or Pro II comes out.

TT just keeps making it better and better. The rig is now about eight
months old and I've downloaded about ten firmware releases in that time.

"FIRMWARE releases?!?"


Yes, firmware releases.

Gosh, you must be equipped with a Star Trek Transporter! :-)


No, just a PC with an internet connection.

Oh, you mean SOFTWARE updates, right?


No, I don't. I mean firmware updates.


Get it straight, Herr Robust.

"Firmware" is hardware.


Actually, kindly old gent, you don't have it quite right. You may go to
http://whatis.techtarget.com/definit...212127,00.html to
educate yourself. Afterward, you may like to take a look at the site
where such firmware upgrades are available for the Orion:
http://www.rfsquared.com/ Please note the first two words in blue at
the top center of the page.

There is NO computer system anywhere in the world that will "download
firmware."


It appears that you are quite mistaken.

Let's see, that's more than one per month.


- Version 1.325 - initial release
03/26/03 Version 1.326
03/27/03 Version 1.327
03/28/03 Version 1.328
03/31/03 Version 1.329
04/01/03 Version 1.330
04/02/03 Version 1.331
04/03/04 Version 1.332
04/04/03 Version 1.333
04/06/03 Version 1.334
04/07/03 Version 1.335
04/08/03 Version 1.336
04/10/03 Version 1.337
04/11/03 - 04/13/03 Version 1.338
04/14/03 - 04/16/03 Version 1.339
04/26/03-05/06/03 Version 1.340
05/12/03-05/14/03 Version 1.341
05/19/03-05/22/03 Version 1.342
05/27/03 Version 1.343
06/03/03 Version 1.344
06/06/03 Version 1.345
06/11/03 Version 1.346
06/13/03 Version 1.347
06/25/03 Version 1.348
07/08/03 Version 1.349
07/10/03 VERSION 1.350
07/29/03 Version 1.351
08/07/03 Version 1.352
08/11/03 Version 1.353
08/12/03 Version 1.354
08/15/03 Version 1.355
08/19/03 Version 1.356
08/21/03 Version 1.357
08/22/03 Version 1.358
08/25/03 Version 1.359
09/12/03 Version 1.360
09/16/03 Version 1.361
09/25/03 Version 1.362
10/06/03 Version 1.363
10/22/03 Version 1.364
10/23/03 Version 1.365
11/14/03 Version 1.366
12/19/03 Version 1.367

Well, it certainly looks like more than one per month, doesn't it old fellow?
Interestingly, the manufacturer lists the above list under "Firmware
Revision History".


All that many updates?


Why would I have reason to manufacture a phony list?

Tells me they didn't know what they were doing to begin with, or just
shoved software and hardware out the door before they had finished
testing the firmware and software.


No, that's simply what you've guessed and you'd again be incorrect.

I would think that Orion could have stabilized the programming by
now. No new band changes have happened in eight months... :-)


Really? I seem to recall adding 60m capability to the Orion. Weren't
you paying attention? Were you under the impression that "band changes"
were the only things which could be modified in the Orion?


Apparently it can also TRANSPORT material things as they did on
Star Trek.

Perhaps they should have beamed up some smarts to release the
RIGHT code the first time...


I'm sure that you'd have done so and that you'd have designed a
transceiver which performed much, much better. Your abilities are
legend.

Oh, my, you drone on busy prussian bee. It's like listening to a
lecture on 1800s science...all done by amateurs.

Nothing new, same old "landfill" remarks from the prussian.



There's plenty new, Leonard. You may start your education after you
learn about firmware.

Dave K8MN
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Old January 22nd 04, 02:46 AM
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Dave Heil wrote:

There's plenty new, Leonard. You may start your education after you
learn about firmware.


I just downloaded new firmware for my cable modem, over my cable modem.
Guess I'll have to use UPS next time. 8^)

- Mike KB3EIA -

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Mike Coslo wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:

There's plenty new, Leonard. You may start your education after you
learn about firmware.


I just downloaded new firmware for my cable modem, over my cable modem.
Guess I'll have to use UPS next time. 8^)


Careful, Mike. Leonard is an electrical engineer and a proud
electronics professional.

Dave K8MN
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Old January 22nd 04, 03:55 AM
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I just downloaded new firmware for my cable modem, over my cable modem.


Something electro-existentialist about that, Mike.

Reminds me of a Lily Tomlin joke where she describes going to the store and
buying a wastepaper basket. At the checkout counter the cashier put the
wastepaper basket in a paper bag. Once she got it home, Lily took the
wastepaper basket out of the paper bag, folded up the paper bag, and put the
paper bag into the wastepaper basket.

73 de Jim, N2EY
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