"KØHB" wrote:

"Dave Heil" wrote

Those things aside, the Orion is built in the U.S. and is one fine
transceiver.

Yes it is, and yes it is. Did you see ON4UN's review in the current
NCJ? Very complimentary.

It showed on the TT reflector and I saw it there. I also find it quite
satisfying to wish that the transceiver would do something, to send
those wishes to TT and to have them incorporate them in a firmware
release.

But Rolling Rock beer ranks about .001 on a scale of 1 to 10, where "4"
is "barely drinkable". (Yes, that means it needs to improve 1000-fold
be be a "1".)

Actually, aside from a couple of Karjalainen brews in Helsinki in
October, my yearly beer intake is about four bottles. I mostly stick to
vodka or with Jack Daniels and branch water.

Dave K8MN

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

N2EY wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message
...
I also like my real analog meter better than a digital
simulation.

My Southgate Type 7 has *two* real analog meters. Nice
easy-to-read round 3-1/2 inch ones.

Also Made In USA.

Do you refer to it as your (get ready for it) two meter rig?

Nope. That's a Heath HW-2036. Only has one meter - analog.

But my shack clock is digital. It's a Tymeter 24-hour one, made from
the parts of three junkers more than 15 years ago.

73 de Jim, N2EY

N2EY wrote:

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

N2EY wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message
...
I also like my real analog meter better than a digital
simulation.

My Southgate Type 7 has *two* real analog meters. Nice
easy-to-read round 3-1/2 inch ones.

Also Made In USA.

Do you refer to it as your (get ready for it) two meter rig?

Nope. That's a Heath HW-2036. Only has one meter - analog.

I'm getting confoozed! Your two meter rig is a one meter rig?

I remember the '2036 and used to own one. I spent a lot of time
fiddling with those VCO coils in the thing. It belongs to a Lebanese
ham in Sierra Leone now. He's probably cursing me every time he has to
fiddle with those coils.

But my shack clock is digital. It's a Tymeter 24-hour one, made from
the parts of three junkers more than 15 years ago.

Those things are developing some nostalgia value these days.

Dave K8MN

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

N2EY wrote:

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

N2EY wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message
...
I also like my real analog meter better than a digital
simulation.

My Southgate Type 7 has *two* real analog meters. Nice
easy-to-read round 3-1/2 inch ones.

Also Made In USA.

Do you refer to it as your (get ready for it) two meter rig?

Nope. That's a Heath HW-2036. Only has one meter - analog.

I'm getting confoozed! Your two meter rig is a one meter rig?

Affirmative.

I remember the '2036 and used to own one. I spent a lot of time
fiddling with those VCO coils in the thing. It belongs to a Lebanese
ham in Sierra Leone now. He's probably cursing me every time he has to
fiddle with those coils.

Mine may need a new mike. Ironic.

But my shack clock is digital. It's a Tymeter 24-hour one, made from
the parts of three junkers more than 15 years ago.

Those things are developing some nostalgia value these days.

In some ways clock technology has gone backwards. I remember when almost all
clocks ran on synchronous motors, like my Tymeter. The power co. kept track of
the Hz and would keep the total number of cycles-per-year pretty dern accurate.
I found that all my motor-clocks would stay in step with WWV give or take a
second or to for as long as the power was on.

Then came "digital quartz technology" - and no two clocks read alike. Set them
all to the same time and in a few months they're all over the place. The newer
computers actually seem to keep worse time than the older ones...

But my Tymeter grinds on, flipping the drums.

73 de Jim, N2EY

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
N2EY wrote:

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

N2EY wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message
...
I also like my real analog meter better than a digital
simulation.

My Southgate Type 7 has *two* real analog meters. Nice
easy-to-read round 3-1/2 inch ones.

Also Made In USA.

Do you refer to it as your (get ready for it) two meter rig?

Nope. That's a Heath HW-2036. Only has one meter - analog.

I'm getting confoozed! Your two meter rig is a one meter rig?

I remember the '2036 and used to own one. I spent a lot of time
fiddling with those VCO coils in the thing. It belongs to a Lebanese
ham in Sierra Leone now. He's probably cursing me every time he has to
fiddle with those coils.

I hope he's not trying to get back at America because of you.

Brian wrote:
Dave Heil wrote in message ...

N2EY wrote:

In article , Dave Heil
writes:


N2EY wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message

...

I also like my real analog meter better than a digital
simulation.


My Southgate Type 7 has *two* real analog meters. Nice
easy-to-read round 3-1/2 inch ones.

Also Made In USA.

Do you refer to it as your (get ready for it) two meter rig?


Nope. That's a Heath HW-2036. Only has one meter - analog.

I'm getting confoozed! Your two meter rig is a one meter rig?

I remember the '2036 and used to own one. I spent a lot of time
fiddling with those VCO coils in the thing. It belongs to a Lebanese
ham in Sierra Leone now. He's probably cursing me every time he has to
fiddle with those coils.


I hope he's not trying to get back at America because of you.

But what does all this have to do with Kim's callsign?

- Mike KB3EIA -

In article , Dave Heil
writes:


Actually, aside from a couple of Karjalainen brews in Helsinki in
October, my yearly beer intake is about four bottles. I mostly stick to
vodka or with Jack Daniels and branch water.

Dave K8MN


Dave:

OK, I give up -- what the Sam Hill is "branch water?" I heard it mentioned
a few times on the old TV program "Dallas," when J.R. Ewing used to order
a "bourbon and branch" at the Ahwl (Oil) Baron's Club. Is it water that
dripped off a tree branch during the rain, or did it come from a branch
tributary of some particular river, or what? Or is it just another way of
saying "Club Soda," as I suspect?

73 de Larry, K3LT

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writes:

No, more like a Dodge Viper, a GE refrigerator or a Rolling Rock beer.


If you'd drink Rolling Rock beer, then you'd probably drive an AMC
Gremlin, wear a badge laden jumpsuit to a hamfest, and date Moms Mabley.

73, de Hans, K0HB

Hansl:

I drink Corona, drive an '03 Toyota Corolla LE, wear a pair of Dockers and a
pullover shirt to hamfests (no badges except my ARRL OBS Call Sign Badge), date
a single Mom not named "Mabley," and will probably never own an ICOM IC-7800
for the simple fact that with the 10 kilobucks I could buy an IC-746, a tower,
a big antenna farm, and lots of other stuff, and still have a chunk of change
left over! If I ever win the Powerball Lottery, I still don't know if I'd
invest in a 7800, although there would be little reason not to under those
circumstances!

73 de Larry, K3LT

In article , (N2EY)
writes:

Then came "digital quartz technology" - and no two clocks read alike.

You have to read the instructions on setting the time.

Set them
all to the same time and in a few months they're all over the place. The newer
computers actually seem to keep worse time than the older ones...

Tsk, tsk, tsk...at least 30 USA firms sell "radio clocks" that check
themselves agains WWVB every day. EXACT time to the second.
Battery powered. They even correct for Leap Years and the Leap
Second.

But my Tymeter grinds on, flipping the drums.

Until the AC power goes out.

Do you flip your drums when the power goes out?

Or do you fire up the "emergency rig" and cueso for the "accurate
time" in morse?

LHA / WMD

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Dave Heil

writes:

I believe that's the beauty of the Orion, it's never "ancient." The
latest
upgrade is just a download away. I feel for the poor slob who finally
breaks
down and buys a '7800 just before the '7800 Pro or Pro II comes out.

TT just keeps making it better and better. The rig is now about eight
months old and I've downloaded about ten firmware releases in that time.

"FIRMWARE releases?!?"

Yes, firmware releases.

Gosh, you must be equipped with a Star Trek Transporter! :-)

No, just a PC with an internet connection.

Oh, you mean SOFTWARE updates, right?

No, I don't. I mean firmware updates.

Get it straight, Herr Robust.

"Firmware" is hardware.

There is NO computer system anywhere in the world that will "download
firmware."


Let's see, that's more than one per month.

- Version 1.325 - initial release
03/26/03 Version 1.326
03/27/03 Version 1.327
03/28/03 Version 1.328
03/31/03 Version 1.329
04/01/03 Version 1.330
04/02/03 Version 1.331
04/03/04 Version 1.332
04/04/03 Version 1.333
04/06/03 Version 1.334
04/07/03 Version 1.335
04/08/03 Version 1.336
04/10/03 Version 1.337
04/11/03 - 04/13/03 Version 1.338
04/14/03 - 04/16/03 Version 1.339
04/26/03-05/06/03 Version 1.340
05/12/03-05/14/03 Version 1.341
05/19/03-05/22/03 Version 1.342
05/27/03 Version 1.343
06/03/03 Version 1.344
06/06/03 Version 1.345
06/11/03 Version 1.346
06/13/03 Version 1.347
06/25/03 Version 1.348
07/08/03 Version 1.349
07/10/03 VERSION 1.350
07/29/03 Version 1.351
08/07/03 Version 1.352
08/11/03 Version 1.353
08/12/03 Version 1.354
08/15/03 Version 1.355
08/19/03 Version 1.356
08/21/03 Version 1.357
08/22/03 Version 1.358
08/25/03 Version 1.359
09/12/03 Version 1.360
09/16/03 Version 1.361
09/25/03 Version 1.362
10/06/03 Version 1.363
10/22/03 Version 1.364
10/23/03 Version 1.365
11/14/03 Version 1.366
12/19/03 Version 1.367

Well, it certainly looks like more than one per month, doesn't it old fellow?
Interestingly, the manufacturer lists the above list under "Firmware
Revision History".

All that many updates?

Tells me they didn't know what they were doing to begin with, or just
shoved software and hardware out the door before they had finished
testing the firmware and software.


I would think that Orion could have stabilized the programming by
now. No new band changes have happened in eight months... :-)

Really? I seem to recall adding 60m capability to the Orion. Weren't
you paying attention? Were you under the impression that "band changes"
were the only things which could be modified in the Orion?

Apparently it can also TRANSPORT material things as they did on
Star Trek.

Perhaps they should have beamed up some smarts to release the
RIGHT code the first time...


Gosh, Orion must "not be interested in radio" if they can't get
their software routines stabilized by now...

"Orion" isn't? It would seem that the Ten-Tec folks would show their
lack of interest by not issuing any updates at all. You may resume your
nap, Leonard.

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Oh, my, you drone on busy prussian bee. It's like listening to a
lecture on 1800s science...all done by amateurs.

Nothing new, same old "landfill" remarks from the prussian.

LHA / WMD