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Subject: The Game's Afoot!
From: (Len Over 21) Date: 6/23/2004 2:40 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , (Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes: You hate Amateur Radio and Amateur Radio licensees. That's blatantly obvious. No. Amateur radio is a fine hobby, interesting, a fine recreation with great technological learning capabilities. Except to a few, such as nursie. I have enjoyed Amateur Radio since 1972, Lennie. It has been a great tool, a source of recreation, and a social gathering place. And as of today, youa re still not a part of it, save for being a sidelined scufflaw. Nursie does NOT "represent" all or even a part of United States amateur radio. Sure I do...At least 1/675,000 part of it. Which is 1/675,000 more than you are. I dare say that judging by many of the other responses in this forum, than some of my opinions are also held by others. Google refers. I DO antagonize those who have a compulsive disorder known familiarly as "control freaks" who seek to dominate others by any means possible. Those are simply wanna-be dictators. There is only one "control freak" here, Lennie. You see him in the mirror every morning. Here's MY "purpose"...It's a proven fact that those who bark the loudest or longest are usually the one's who get the most attention. Nursie just wanna FIGHT. Nursie FIGHT anyone who have opposite opinions of nursie's. Bark, bark, bark, little nursie. Seems I'm the little doggie that got ahold of YOU, Lennie! Sucks to be you. There is nothing at all "discrediting" about showing FANTASIES to be fantasies of the imagination. The only fantasy in this forum, Lennie, is that you are a person of respectable character, or that you are making some sort of "constructive" participation in it. Education in the radio arts is not accomplished by pretending that amateur radio is some paramilitary service organization or that memorizing the advertisements and radio reviews in QST is "learning" what happens behind the front panels...or that amateur radio "always comes to the rescue during emergencies when all the other radio infrastructure 'fails.'" You are the one with such fantasies, Lennie. You are the one who makes denigrating comments about parallels between the Armed Forces and Amateur Radio. And no one here has said "...amateur radio 'always comes to the rescue' ..."' The FACTS are that Amateur Radio DOES "come to the rescue" in a great many instances, and it CONTINUES to do so in the 21st Century, cellular and Internet technology notwithsatnding. As long as you deem it your "purpose" to do so, I will do MY best to expose you for the antagonist and mistruthful putz that you are. Tsk, tsk, tsk. Nursie back into name-calling mode, trying to "win" newsgrope arguments by some kind of "show of force." It's no "show of force". It's the truth. Amateur radio regulations were established by people, not gods or chiefs of stuff of some paramilitary organization. Regulations, standards and procedures all evolved, changed with time. That will continue to change as time goes on. There is NO divine purpose to stop change. Yes, those regulations were established by "people"... People who have a vested, practical experience in the radio service they are a PART of... It was true in 1912...it's true in 2004... Except for you. Go figure. Change is opposed by those who managed to meet OLD standards and procedures of long ago. They cannot, will not adjust. They fear change. Change manifests insecurity for them. Or, they are so ego-driven that they fantasize their individual accomplishments as so mighty and noble that they think of themselves as role-models for all. A rant of monumental proportion, put to rest by any one who cares to review any of the posts made by any of those persons you refer to as "PCTA's", myself included. You were offered SEVERAL apologies and offers to move on, but your answers were clearly designed to simply perpetuate an argument. No. Not on record. Yes, on record. In Google and Deja before it... Nursie has not admitted that either of his statements about MARS being amateur radio are wrong, nor has he/she ever admitted to reading any of the military documents defining and explaining MARS...nor has nursie identified any part of Title 47 C.F.R. defining MARS as a civilian radio service. I have read many of those records, Lennie. None of them dispute my assertion of No Amateur Radio = No MARS. Recent posts by others here validate the activites of those MARS-authorized Amateurs in federal communications exercises. Nursie has never revealed the when and where of any claimed military "hostile action" yet demands full and complete disclosure of all others...for any claim. Nursie be a hypocrite. So far, my unweillingness to disclose whena nd where I was involved in hostile contact is your ONLY argument, Lennie. So far, that means you are about 30-1 behind on unansweed questions. Nursie continually insults others' private and professional lives clearly designed to induce word FIGHTING and then tries to say "others did it first!" Nursie be an insulter and hypocrite. It's not an insult if it's true. Nursie want to be center of attention. Ego drive. Uses all palaver in here to divert from real debate he cannot handle, will not handle if it is against his own precious opinions. You have nothing to offer. Nursie make imperious demand. It was not a demand. It was an observation. So far, one you've not been able to disprove. Just the same, I was on the staff of Ham Radio magazine after being an author-contributor. Yes...you were... A magazine that is now defunct due to a lack of readership and circulation. So much for your editorial and leadership skills, Lennie. At the mention of that, nursie will go immediately into ATTACK mode, all safeties off, insulting all the staff of HR for being a "defunct" publication...even after 22 years of existance as a self-sustaining independent periodical for radio amateurs. I am not "attacking" the staff at HR, Lennie. Just you. I am sure Jim Fisk and the other folks were Nursie will then change gears and say I cribbed all information ("cut and paste" in his words) and had "none of my own." Nursie not understand any of the articles, too much intellect for him, therefore author become "enemy of state" to be destroyed (by any means possible). Poor nursie. Poor Lennie. There's no facts to substantiate any of your CLAIMS about them, either. Nursie think amateur radio all about manual telegraphy or code testing? Not so. Elimination of code test is my main concern. That is happening. Very slowly but it is happening. First break in mighty Amateur damn was in 1990. Yep. And it happened WITHOUT Lennie. Sunnuvagun! Small trickle of no-coders entered ham radio in 1991, are now the largest class group in U.S. amateur radio. "Small"...?!?! I already acknowledged the enabling directives of MARS. And how was that done? Must have been by private courier or other means "obscuring the information." No blinder are those who will NOT see..... If amateur radio goes away, MARS can remain. All that is required of DoD is then to update Directive 4650.2. Sure it can. Just like there are Jim Crow laws on the books in many southern states. And until the Department of Defense decides that MARS needs to be staffed to a level that would make it operationally viable WITHOUT all those Amateur Radio volunteers, my assertion that NO Amateur Radio = No MARS is accurate. No. If anything nasty be said about me, it is because I keep on opposing fantasies blabbered by nursie. Anything that is said about you is in response to what YOU have said. Afterall, this exchange wouldn't be possible without you, Lennie. You ARE your own worse enemy. MARS, without the thousands of volunteer Amateurs who man it, would not be able to carry out those duties those directives require. Period. MARS has done well WITHOUT those volunteers in exercise Grecian Firebolt 2002. They are still doing so in 2004. Sunnuvagun! How about that? Sunnuvagun...how about all the resports of MARS stations participating being MOSTLY from "individual" stations...?!?! You need to participate in forums other than this one, Lennie. Only a major manpower restructuring in the Armed Forces would allow it, and under present circumstances, that is highly unlikely. Okay, Chief of Stuff, explain THAT gem? The U.S. military has a very large communications organization that is done by military personnel. Doesn't involve MARS at all. Does all the tactical and strategic communications for the military. Very big. Army Signal Center is at Fort Gordon, GA. Nice try for a change of tangent, Lennie. We are not discussing operational military traffic, Lennie. We are discussing MARS. Not ADA, AIR, WAR, SINCGARS, or equipment nomenclature...Just the MARS program. I'd suggest you try and stay focused, but you can't and keep an "edge" in the arguments. MARS can go away today and not impact any missions of the U.S. military. Yep....I never said anything else. And I don't need to "intellectualize" anything. You don't seem to be able to do that. All the readers see is you personally insulting others who differ with your godlike opinions. "Godlike"...?!?! You are not an Amateur Radio licensee. You never have been. You've made countless assertions and "observations" to and about Amateur Radio, most of which have been easily rebuked by fact, and certainly NOT substantiated by any fact from you. (Shall we once again revisit YOUR assertions of "dishonesty" by ARRL officials...?!?!) Everyone with opposite opinions LIES! Nope. Nursie = nuts. Still waiting on you to provide those documents that will demonstrate your qualifications in mental health education or training, Lennie. Until then...You're still a putz. Steve, K4YZ |