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Subject: K0HB Supports Common Sense...NOT!
From: Date: 12/24/2004 10:07 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: .com K=D8HB wrote: The popular vote is meaningless, otherwise Al ("I invented the internet") Gore would be President today. Al Gore never claimed to have invented the internet. http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.htm BBWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHA ! ! ! ! ! ! Nooooooooooooooooooo...He didn't "invent the Internet"...He just "took the Initiative" for it! Below are the first couple of paragraphs from the URL you provided, Jim. QUOTE: Claim: Vice-President Al Gore claimed that he "invented" the Internet. Status: False. Origins: No, Al Gore did not claim he "invented" the Internet, nor did he say anything that could reasonably be interpreted that way. The derisive "Al Gore said he 'invented' the Internet" put-downs are misleading distortions of something he said (taken out of context) during an interview with Wolf Blitzer on CNN's "Late Edition" program on 9 March 1999. When asked to describe what distinguished him from his challenger for the Democratic presidential nomination, Senator Bill Bradley of New Jersey, Gore replied (in part): "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system." Clearly, although Gore's phrasing was clumsy (and self-serving), he was not claiming that he "invented" the Internet (in the sense of having designed or implemented it), but that he was responsible for helping to create the environment (in an economic and legislative sense) that fostered the development of the Internet. UNQUOTE The author of this "debunking urban legends" article should be spanked for having the temerity to state "Al Gore did not claim he "invented" the Internet, nor did he say anything that could reasonably be interpreted that way." The very quote he provided said EXACTLY that! "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet." That was the SAME Algore who stood in the Capitol Building and didn't recognize George Washington's bust...and THAT was on videotape! Had Al Gore gotten elected and the same September 11th events transpired, he would have had us paying restitution to the families of the hijackers! Sheeeeeesh! Steve, K4YZ |
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![]() "N2EY" wrote Hans wrote that Al Gore said "I invented the Internet" as if it were a direct quote. That was a mistake, pure and simple, as the snopes site proves. Naw, it was a deliberate traiterous attempt to show my lack of regard for him, but he's not the sitting (or standing) VP so at least Robeson and Burke can't accuse me of supporting spammers and phishers and other scoundrels in time of internet war. 73, de Hans ("I invented Billy Beeper"), K0HB |
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Subject: K0HB Supports Common Sense...NOT!
From: PAMNO (N2EY) Date: 12/26/2004 8:41 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , (Steve Robeson K4YZ) writes: Subject: K0HB Supports Common Sense...NOT! From: Date: 12/24/2004 10:07 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: .com K=D8HB wrote: The popular vote is meaningless, otherwise Al ("I invented the internet") Gore would be President today. Al Gore never claimed to have invented the internet. http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.htm BBWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHA ! ! ! ! ! ! Nooooooooooooooooooo...He didn't "invent the Internet"...He just "took the Initiative" for it! That's right! And as the snopes item shows, *that* claim was an exaggeration. Almost everything that comes out of Algore's mouth is an exaggeration, Jim. Haven't you stopped and asked yourself why Algore was not able to carry his home state in his election, and why not even the most aggressive of campaigning by the Dems in a traditionally Dem state couldn't turn out the votes for Kerry...????? Al Gore *was* involved in setting up the legislation that made the internet as we know it possible. That's not the same thing as *inventing* it, and he didn't do it singlehanded. Of course he didn't do it "singlehandedly"... But go back and read the "Snopes" article. All of his references are first-person exclusive. NO WHERE did he say "I was part of a committee...", nor did he give credit to anyone EXCEPT Algore. Below are the first couple of paragraphs from the URL you provided, Jim. Now who's editorializing? Anyone can follow the link. Then perhaps you should, and perhaps you should have some discussions with an English teacher about the content and context of the item cited, Jim. QUOTE: Claim: Vice-President Al Gore claimed that he "invented" the Internet. Status: False. Origins: No, Al Gore did not claim he "invented" the Internet, nor did he say anything that could reasonably be interpreted that way. The derisive "Al Gore said he 'invented' the Internet" put-downs are misleading distortions of something he said (taken out of context) during an interview with Wolf Blitzer on CNN's "Late Edition" program on 9 March 1999. When asked to describe what distinguished him from his challenger for the Democratic presidential nomination, Senator Bill Bradley of New Jersey, Gore replied (in part): "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system." Clearly, although Gore's phrasing was clumsy (and self-serving), he was not claiming that he "invented" the Internet (in the sense of having designed or implemented it), but that he was responsible for helping to create the environment (in an economic and legislative sense) that fostered the development of the Internet. UNQUOTE The author of this "debunking urban legends" article should be spanked for having the temerity to state "Al Gore did not claim he "invented" the Internet, nor did he say anything that could reasonably be interpreted that way." "should be spanked"? Are you advocating physical violence against that author? The very quote he provided said EXACTLY that! Nope. The word 'invented' was never used. Yet Al Gore is often quoted as saying that exact word, which he didn't. "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet." And he did. He and a whole committee of others. I am glad YOU realize it was "....a whole committee of others".... Because Algore didn't. That was the SAME Algore who stood in the Capitol Building and didn't recognize George Washington's bust...and THAT was on videotape! How about Shrub's reference to "the internets"? Had Al Gore gotten elected and the same September 11th events transpired, he would have had us paying restitution to the families of the hijackers! That's pure....nonsense. No, it's not. Algore would have immediately started making apologies to the families of the hijackers, expressing his regret that previous US policy had created the mindset that the hijackers had, and here...please...take this token of our regret... I think you're trying to get me to use an eight-letter word meaning bovine excrement. Because that's what your last statement is. No, It's not. And glad to see you are exercising some of that education...Now that wasn't so hard afterall, was it...???? Sheeeeeesh! The plain and simple fact is that Al Gore never claimed to have "invented the internet". "Invention" denote an original technical activity, such as "inventing the telephone" or "invented color television". Nobody with any understanding of English would write of the "invention of the Constitution" or "invented the modern civil rights movement". Hans wrote that Al Gore said "I invented the Internet" as if it were a direct quote. That was a mistake, pure and simple, as the snopes site proves. So...we can substitue "I took the initiative..." for "I invented..." In either case it still insinuates that Algore was solely responsible for the proliferation of the Internet...either expression still being wrong. Steve, K4YZ |
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