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Old December 24th 04, 05:03 PM
Steve Robeson K4YZ
 
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Subject: K0HB Supports Common Sense...NOT!
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Date: 12/24/2004 10:07 AM Central Standard Time
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K=D8HB wrote:

The popular vote is meaningless, otherwise Al ("I invented
the internet") Gore would be President today.


Al Gore never claimed to have invented the internet.


http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.htm

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHA ! ! ! ! ! !

Nooooooooooooooooooo...He didn't "invent the Internet"...He just "took the
Initiative" for it!

Below are the first couple of paragraphs from the URL you provided, Jim.

QUOTE:

Claim: Vice-President Al Gore claimed that he "invented" the Internet.
Status: False.

Origins: No,
Al Gore did not claim he "invented" the Internet, nor did he say anything that
could reasonably be interpreted that way. The derisive "Al Gore said he
'invented' the Internet" put-downs are misleading distortions of something he
said (taken out of context) during an interview with Wolf Blitzer on CNN's
"Late Edition" program on 9 March 1999. When asked to describe what
distinguished him from his challenger for the Democratic presidential
nomination, Senator Bill Bradley of New Jersey, Gore replied (in part):

"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in
creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of
initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth
and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system."

Clearly, although Gore's phrasing was clumsy (and self-serving), he was not
claiming that he "invented" the Internet (in the sense of having designed or
implemented it), but that he was responsible for helping to create the
environment (in an economic and legislative sense) that fostered the
development of the Internet.

UNQUOTE

The author of this "debunking urban legends" article should be spanked for
having the temerity to state "Al Gore did not claim he "invented" the Internet,
nor did he say anything that could reasonably be interpreted that way."

The very quote he provided said EXACTLY that!

"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in
creating the Internet."

That was the SAME Algore who stood in the Capitol Building and didn't
recognize George Washington's bust...and THAT was on videotape!

Had Al Gore gotten elected and the same September 11th events transpired,
he would have had us paying restitution to the families of the hijackers!

Sheeeeeesh!

Steve, K4YZ







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Old December 26th 04, 02:41 PM
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In article , (Steve
Robeson K4YZ) writes:

Subject: K0HB Supports Common Sense...NOT!
From:

Date: 12/24/2004 10:07 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id: .com


K=D8HB wrote:

The popular vote is meaningless, otherwise Al ("I invented
the internet") Gore would be President today.


Al Gore never claimed to have invented the internet.


http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.htm

BBWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHA ! ! ! ! ! !

Nooooooooooooooooooo...He didn't "invent the Internet"...He just "took
the
Initiative" for it!


That's right! And as the snopes item shows, *that* claim was an exaggeration.

Al Gore *was* involved in setting up the legislation that made the internet as
we know it possible. That's not the same thing as *inventing* it, and he didn't
do it singlehanded.

Below are the first couple of paragraphs from the URL you provided, Jim.

Now who's editorializing? Anyone can follow the link. ;-)

QUOTE:

Claim: Vice-President Al Gore claimed that he "invented" the Internet.
Status: False.

Origins: No,
Al Gore did not claim he "invented" the Internet, nor did he say anything
that
could reasonably be interpreted that way. The derisive "Al Gore said he
'invented' the Internet" put-downs are misleading distortions of something he
said (taken out of context) during an interview with Wolf Blitzer on CNN's
"Late Edition" program on 9 March 1999. When asked to describe what
distinguished him from his challenger for the Democratic presidential
nomination, Senator Bill Bradley of New Jersey, Gore replied (in part):

"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in
creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range
of
initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth
and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system."

Clearly, although Gore's phrasing was clumsy (and self-serving), he was not
claiming that he "invented" the Internet (in the sense of having designed or
implemented it), but that he was responsible for helping to create the
environment (in an economic and legislative sense) that fostered the
development of the Internet.

UNQUOTE

The author of this "debunking urban legends" article should be spanked
for
having the temerity to state "Al Gore did not claim he "invented" the
Internet,
nor did he say anything that could reasonably be interpreted that way."


"should be spanked"? Are you advocating physical violence against that author?

The very quote he provided said EXACTLY that!


Nope. The word 'invented' was never used. Yet Al Gore is often quoted as saying
that exact word, which he didn't.

"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative
in creating the Internet."


And he did. He and a whole committee of others.

That was the SAME Algore who stood in the Capitol Building and didn't
recognize George Washington's bust...and THAT was on videotape!


How about Shrub's reference to "the internets"?

Had Al Gore gotten elected and the same September 11th events
transpired,
he would have had us paying restitution to the families of the hijackers!


That's pure....nonsense.

I think you're trying to get me to use an eight-letter word meaning bovine
excrement. Because that's what your last statement is.

Sheeeeeesh!

The plain and simple fact is that Al Gore never claimed to have "invented the
internet". "Invention" denote an original technical activity, such as
"inventing the telephone" or "invented color television". Nobody with any
understanding of English would write of the "invention of the Constitution" or
"invented the modern civil rights movement".

Hans wrote that Al Gore said "I invented the Internet" as if it were a direct
quote. That was a mistake, pure and simple, as the snopes site proves.

73 de Jim, N2EY
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Old December 26th 04, 03:04 PM
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"N2EY" wrote


Hans wrote that Al Gore said "I invented the Internet" as
if it were a direct quote. That was a mistake, pure and simple,
as the snopes site proves.


Naw, it was a deliberate traiterous attempt to show my lack of regard for him,
but he's not the sitting (or standing) VP so at least Robeson and Burke can't
accuse me of supporting spammers and phishers and other scoundrels in time of
internet war.

73, de Hans ("I invented Billy Beeper"), K0HB




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Steve Robeson K4YZ
 
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Subject: K0HB Supports Common Sense...NOT!
From: PAMNO (N2EY)
Date: 12/26/2004 8:41 AM Central Standard Time
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In article ,

(Steve
Robeson K4YZ) writes:

Subject: K0HB Supports Common Sense...NOT!
From:

Date: 12/24/2004 10:07 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id: .com


K=D8HB wrote:

The popular vote is meaningless, otherwise Al ("I invented
the internet") Gore would be President today.


Al Gore never claimed to have invented the internet.


http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.htm

BBWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHA ! ! ! ! ! !

Nooooooooooooooooooo...He didn't "invent the Internet"...He just "took
the
Initiative" for it!


That's right! And as the snopes item shows, *that* claim was an exaggeration.


Almost everything that comes out of Algore's mouth is an exaggeration,
Jim.

Haven't you stopped and asked yourself why Algore was not able to carry
his home state in his election, and why not even the most aggressive of
campaigning by the Dems in a traditionally Dem state couldn't turn out the
votes for Kerry...?????

Al Gore *was* involved in setting up the legislation that made the internet
as
we know it possible. That's not the same thing as *inventing* it, and he
didn't
do it singlehanded.


Of course he didn't do it "singlehandedly"...

But go back and read the "Snopes" article. All of his references are
first-person exclusive.

NO WHERE did he say "I was part of a committee...", nor did he give credit
to anyone EXCEPT Algore.

Below are the first couple of paragraphs from the URL you provided,

Jim.

Now who's editorializing? Anyone can follow the link.


Then perhaps you should, and perhaps you should have some discussions with
an English teacher about the content and context of the item cited, Jim.

QUOTE:

Claim: Vice-President Al Gore claimed that he "invented" the Internet.
Status: False.

Origins: No,
Al Gore did not claim he "invented" the Internet, nor did he say anything
that
could reasonably be interpreted that way. The derisive "Al Gore said he
'invented' the Internet" put-downs are misleading distortions of something

he
said (taken out of context) during an interview with Wolf Blitzer on CNN's
"Late Edition" program on 9 March 1999. When asked to describe what
distinguished him from his challenger for the Democratic presidential
nomination, Senator Bill Bradley of New Jersey, Gore replied (in part):

"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in
creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range
of
initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic

growth
and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system."

Clearly, although Gore's phrasing was clumsy (and self-serving), he was not
claiming that he "invented" the Internet (in the sense of having designed or
implemented it), but that he was responsible for helping to create the
environment (in an economic and legislative sense) that fostered the
development of the Internet.

UNQUOTE

The author of this "debunking urban legends" article should be spanked
for
having the temerity to state "Al Gore did not claim he "invented" the
Internet,
nor did he say anything that could reasonably be interpreted that way."


"should be spanked"? Are you advocating physical violence against that
author?

The very quote he provided said EXACTLY that!


Nope. The word 'invented' was never used. Yet Al Gore is often quoted as
saying
that exact word, which he didn't.

"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative
in creating the Internet."


And he did. He and a whole committee of others.


I am glad YOU realize it was "....a whole committee of others"....

Because Algore didn't.

That was the SAME Algore who stood in the Capitol Building and didn't
recognize George Washington's bust...and THAT was on videotape!


How about Shrub's reference to "the internets"?

Had Al Gore gotten elected and the same September 11th events
transpired,
he would have had us paying restitution to the families of the hijackers!


That's pure....nonsense.


No, it's not.

Algore would have immediately started making apologies to the families of
the hijackers, expressing his regret that previous US policy had created the
mindset that the hijackers had, and here...please...take this token of our
regret...

I think you're trying to get me to use an eight-letter word meaning bovine
excrement. Because that's what your last statement is.


No, It's not.

And glad to see you are exercising some of that education...Now that
wasn't so hard afterall, was it...????

Sheeeeeesh!

The plain and simple fact is that Al Gore never claimed to have "invented the
internet". "Invention" denote an original technical activity, such as
"inventing the telephone" or "invented color television". Nobody with any
understanding of English would write of the "invention of the Constitution"
or
"invented the modern civil rights movement".

Hans wrote that Al Gore said "I invented the Internet" as if it were a direct
quote. That was a mistake, pure and simple, as the snopes site proves.


So...we can substitue "I took the initiative..." for "I invented..."

In either case it still insinuates that Algore was solely responsible for
the proliferation of the Internet...either expression still being wrong.

Steve, K4YZ





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