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From: Michael Coslo on Thurs 16 Jun 2005 12:52



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From: Mike Coslo on May 29, 9:57 pm


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Mike Coslo wrote:

Many people lament that there is not enough interest
in Ham radio by young people.

Agreed - but how much would be enough?

Dunno. I personally agree somewhat with Brian K's assertion that the
absolute number of Hams could indeed drop without serious problems.

On the other hand, I believe that we should have a good mix of ages.

Younger hobbyists have to be there to "take orders" from the
older ones? :-)

You'd like it if we younger folks took orders from you, but we won't.
Deal with it, Len.


Tsk. Jimmie sounds all upset. Nobody is telling him any "orders."

Not to worry. Those who've never served in the military won't
get bothered about taking orders.

However, "radio manufacturers" very much need to take orders. As
many as they can handle! :-)

Jimmie said he was a "radio manufacturer." Better give him an
order right now, keep him solvent. [or was that "soylent...?"]



Some of us were using computers back in the punchcard and paper-tape
days.

Yeah, like me! Ancient IBM mainframes that took up an entire room in
the late '70s. First personal size computer was the venerable Trash-80
with a tape drive around 1981. First computer hooked to a modem was a
C-64 a few years later. Got a number of the Commodore Amigas. Had a
A500, an A2000,A3000, and an A4000. Got the Macs starting with a II-CX,
then to a 7100, 7500, G3, G4, and now a G5. PC's from the 286, 386 PS2,
Several laptops, and some HP Pavilions at home.


Woweee! Keep that consumer market afloat with buy, buy, buy...

Ever BUILD your own PC, Michael? Like etch the PC, drill them
holes, solder them pins, PROGRAM the monitor ROM? No? Tsk.

Yes! Not as a PC, but I have designed boards, taken the artwork through
the photo stages, sensitized and exposed the boards, etched them and put
'em together. Professionally. I've programmed ROM's also, though not often.


Remember: You can't say "first personal" in here. That sort of
talk is CB trash and CBers are supposed to be the evil scourges
of radio, satan's henchmen on earth...

Dunnno about the CB trash angle, but I'll say "My name is..... I
wonder, is there a "first impersonal?" 8^)



I've been around computers a while, despite diatribes to the contrary .


Tsk, tsk. When I was young we carved our own ICs out of wood....

hehe.


To get an HF transceiver in their vehicles, both young and
old could buy a set of transceiver, antenna, microphone for
under $200 from Sears, K-Mart, Wall-Mart, etc. in the
morning and have it installed and working in the afternoon.

And it had a few channels, one mode and 5 watts of power at most.


23 or 40 channels is "few?" In an urban area of 10 million+,
yes, too few. :-)

But, "5 watts of power" can WORK THE WORLD!!! :-)

Sometimes! I recall a PSK31 exchange with a fellow from Australia.
That's just about as far as you can go without coming back.


Only 5 Watts of RF output? Nay, see the General Radiotelephone
CB manufactured by the thousands here in beautiful uptown
Burbank. 35 Watts out with the "modification" clearly spelled
out in the instruction manual! :-)



The way many cb radios were used was in clear violation of the
Communications Act and FCC regulations.


Riiiiight you are Mr. Noblestoneofall...all CBers are dastard
souless lawbreakers and should all be taken out and shot.

You talkin to *me*?

All the righteous, noble, "federally authorized" hams deserve
a lifetime of respect and admiration for being scrupulously
honest with everything!



My experience has been that it must be a small "somewhat" indeed!

Is there some rule that "real electronikers" can't use reference material?


With ham radio among the mighty macho morsemen, ALL you need is
morsemanship. That's enough.

"Morse gets through when everything else will..." B. Burke, 2004



Real technicians don't look up pinouts either! ;^)


Oh? You "KNOW" every single tube, transistor, IC pinout by heart?

If you do, you're ten kinds of dum**** braggart, Michael.

You have chided me in the past for not *getting* a sarcasm in a post.

Consider yourself chided.


What sort of antennas do *you* have, Len?


Two. But the number of covenants against them are only one and
that one was issued by the FAA. :-)




How many children have you parented, Len?


Ah! The Master Pediatrician accuses! :-)

Last time I looked, NO ONE in ANY discipline of electronics was
required to be a parent in order to work in that field! :-)

Would you accept an MD's signed test paper on sperm count? :-)

HOW MANY CHILDREN AS JIMMIE MICCOLIS "PARENTED?"

So far, we've not heard any answer in public...and are not likely
to. Jimmie wishes to be dominatrix here?




This NG is about amateur radio, Len. Something you are not a part of.


This newsgroup is about AMATEUR RADIO POLICY, Jimmie, NOT pediatrics
or How To Raise Kids. So far, we have to assume YOU ARE NOT A
PART OF THAT.



So you're old, Len. Big deal. You grunt and grumble, rant and rave more
than anyone here.


No, I don't. :-)




If we can celebrate those who *DO* things instead of simply consume
things, we might reverse that trend.

That has been going on in nearly all technological endeavors
for as long as I can remember. The DO-ers are celebrated.

Yep - like the hams who pioneered HF radio in 1923...


Woweee! Like they got TOSSED OUT of MF and had to go where
wavelengths were shorter than 200 meters...by ACT OF LAW!!!!

Some "pioneering!!!" The first of the "homeless" in radio and
now you say they were "pioneers?!?" Geez, talk about
rationalizations!!!

Necessity is the mother of invention - and innovation.



You mean like the person who posts their military and work experience
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
again,

oops, you missed one, Jim!


Awwwwwwww! You poor guys, never worked the Big Leagues of radio?

Never particularly wanted to! ;^)

- Mike KB3EIA -

From: Michael Coslo on Jun 17, 9:51 am

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From: Michael Coslo on Thurs 16 Jun 2005 12:52
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wrote:
From: Mike Coslo on May 29, 9:57 pm
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Mike Coslo wrote:


Many people lament that there is not enough interest
in Ham radio by young people.

Awwww...ya gotta be kidding! :-)

You mean all those young people today aren't wanting to study
morsemanship and beep to other lands? Tsk, tsk, tsk.

Wow! "Not" having one's OWN RADIO STATION! They don't know
what they are missing...[koff, koff, choke, BWAHAH... ]


Yeah, like me! Ancient IBM mainframes that took up an entire room in
the late '70s. First personal size computer was the venerable Trash-80
with a tape drive around 1981. First computer hooked to a modem was a
C-64 a few years later. Got a number of the Commodore Amigas. Had a
A500, an A2000,A3000, and an A4000. Got the Macs starting with a II-CX,
then to a 7100, 7500, G3, G4, and now a G5. PC's from the 286, 386 PS2,
Several laptops, and some HP Pavilions at home.

[tsk, you still didn't see where you wrote "first personal?" :-) ]

Woweee! Keep that consumer market afloat with buy, buy, buy...

Ever BUILD your own PC, Michael? Like etch the PC, drill them
holes, solder them pins, PROGRAM the monitor ROM? No? Tsk.

Yes! Not as a PC, but I have designed boards, taken the artwork through
the photo stages, sensitized and exposed the boards, etched them and put
'em together. Professionally. I've programmed ROM's also, though not often.

Sorry, that won't do under the newsgroup rules. The ONLY way to
prove that is to have your own web page with pictures, hopefully
including "admiring neighbors" gushing over those might doings...



I've been around computers a while, despite diatribes to the contrary .

Tsk, tsk. When I was young we carved our own ICs out of wood....

hehe.

BREAKTHROUGH! A PCTA with some sense of humor! :-)


To get an HF transceiver in their vehicles, both young and
old could buy a set of transceiver, antenna, microphone for
under $200 from Sears, K-Mart, Wall-Mart, etc. in the
morning and have it installed and working in the afternoon.

And it had a few channels, one mode and 5 watts of power at most.

23 or 40 channels is "few?" In an urban area of 10 million+,
yes, too few. :-)

But, "5 watts of power" can WORK THE WORLD!!! :-)

Sometimes! I recall a PSK31 exchange with a fellow from Australia.
That's just about as far as you can go without coming back.

Not quite. A few Watts to the Sea of Tranquility...over a 250
thousand mile path would do... :-)


Riiiiight you are Mr. Noblestoneofall...all CBers are dastard
souless lawbreakers and should all be taken out and shot.

You talkin to *me*?

No, was talkin' to Robert DeNiro. Taxi anyone? Where Jodie?


Actually, it's hard to tell PCTAs apart nowadays. Their mantras
are practically in harmony..."preserve the status quo as much as
possible"..."obey the LAW and TAKE that REQUIRED code test!!" (as
if the law cannot ever be changed)..."I didn't like CW until I HAD
to learn it to get a license and then found it 'fun'!" (as if all
would find it 'fun' if they tried to do so)."


Real technicians don't look up pinouts either! ;^)

Oh? You "KNOW" every single tube, transistor, IC pinout by heart?

If you do, you're ten kinds of dum**** braggart, Michael.

You have chided me in the past for not *getting* a sarcasm in a post.

Consider yourself chided.

No huhu. As I said, all PCTAs sound alike nowadays and so few have
either a sense of today's reality or of humor.

Then again, there was one in here last year who was bragging
all over the place about ballooning to "the edge of space"
and seemed to want all kinds of 'congratulations' for that
achievement before ever doing a thing about it.

I digress. Sorry. :-)


Yep - like the hams who pioneered HF radio in 1923...

Woweee! Like they got TOSSED OUT of MF and had to go where
wavelengths were shorter than 200 meters...by ACT OF LAW!!!!

Some "pioneering!!!" The first of the "homeless" in radio and
now you say they were "pioneers?!?" Geez, talk about
rationalizations!!!

Necessity is the mother of invention - and innovation.

What "invention?" Two experimenters tried out radio for the
first time in 1896. That's 27 years prior, over a generation.

"Innovation?" What was to "innovate" with spark transmitters
that had already been designed many different ways?


Awwwwwwww! You poor guys, never worked the Big Leagues of radio?

Never particularly wanted to! ;^)

You should have tried it even if you hadn't wanted to...you might
have found it to be FUN! :-)

Tsk, tsk, tsk. That was called "serving one's country" in the
military. Three dozen high-power HF transmitters to be in charge
of each shift. OPERATING them. ["dipping the plate, peaking the
grid" during QSYs, just like the boat-anchor folks do today, 52
years later!]

Jimmie no like that. Jimmie say that OLD. Tsk. Jimmie never do
dat.

Kellie no like that. Kellie say dat just "meter reading." Kellie
never do dat.

Stevie weavie, da worsie nursie no like that. He say ALL LIES!
Stebie never do dat.

Buzzie Wuzzie, from da TV fiction outer-space shows, no like dat.
Buzzie never do dat.

All PCTA mad about dat. Poor PCTA. Too much beeping.

NCTA change law. Bye-bye beeping test.