K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

just what are saying you did

How can we "discuss" anything, Markie, when you are still refusing
to get help for your alleged dyslexia?

Stevie I don't need help, I could use for you cut down on the sheer
volume that would help

I do cut down on the volume.

steveie you are not cutting the volume you are incresing it

You've not been paying attention.

I have indeed I have been giving you more attention than you deserve,
practicing my skills at dealing with narrowminded jerks (one of the big
reason for coming to RRAP these days)

but you haven't been saying much anything



You are at liberty to validate the information independently.

thank you I think

You're welcome and no you don't.

yes I do think

No, you do not.

yes I do


I don't know exactly what you are claiming

Then go back through old RRAP archives and do some research

I have can't find it

You can't find RRAP archives?

can't find what you are reffering to

of course part of that is I do not know exactly what you are reffering
to which makes reconizing it really hard


What an idiot.

another stevie distorion


How many do I have to say that before you understand

So you're admitting you're computer illiterate too...?!?!

nope

Sheesh. Are there no bounds to your limitations...?!?!

(Chew on that Mobius Loop for a while!)

Mobius has nothing do with it

you tell me to look for something without giving me enough to id it in
the first place


so without knowing what I am checking I can't check on it

I just gave you some of the details.

Callsigns.

Proving WHAT?

Having a MARS callsign doesn't proof you did anything with MARS or that
you Know anything about MARS

Otherwise you have to accept that MY callsign make me an expert on the
ARS

They "prove" I was a member. Further information can be gleaned
from there.

If they are yours, and If you did what you were suposed to and if
records are maintianed and IF they can be accessed


What does "The fact that I was NCOIC of MCB Camp Butler MARS and ANCOIC
of Oki Areawide MARS proves it." prove

The statement itself proves nothing.

That the USMC can validate my service does.

to what end I do believe you were military likely a marine

but what does it have to do with the callsigns

(Sheesh...)

what does it have to do with the cal signs


Markie, it's in the archives...Just like the rules you couldn't
find about the 60 meter allocations "weren't" in Part 97.

They are not it a text put out by the FCC if you follow one set of link
Hans then points out a Defferent links that do


What in the Blue Blazes was that supposed to be...????

what you are claiming is something Id like to knwo as a matter of
record

you are confused good makes 2 of us

If I could just understand what you were writing, it would be a lot
easier.

if you would come up and make repaet the claims you claim to be proving
the rest of us could judge wether or not you had done so. but...

But nothing. Go back and read them.

go read what I can't tell which claims you claim are answered by
callsigns


YOU are confused becasue you're a lazy idiot.

prehaps, but I am confused by your refusual to says what you are
claimingwhile offering proof of a claim you refuse to repeat

I refuse to repeat all the goings-on between Brain and I for the
last 6 months.

you refuse to repeat the claim that began it, likely because it would
seem so petty that you have been carrying on about it for 6 months

after all you are still carrying on about my changing ISP's after 7
years



Ask him. Maybe he'll e-mail you the links.

I bet HIS ISP doesn't chage him $5/hr.

I had not read this yet see

You never let anything drop


Brain insists I've not had experience in MARS. I say I have, and
have provided information to corroborate it.

no you have not even if those are valid Mars Callsign (not disputing
that yet but reserving the right) proves nothing without some kind of
logs.

MARS maintains participation reports.

accessable to the public how?


By the Same Stanard the existance of MY callsign proves I know how the
NTS works, since I don't your logic seem flawed, at best

No, it doesn't.

yes it does


I would hope that MARS does not keep and is not able to sort though
such trivia, (although it might be so foolish it has something to do
with the Military)

Records of previous memebers is "trivia"...???

yes

wether or not you serv and how meesages you may have passed is trivia.


BIG SNIP

Markie...If you want to participate in this exchange, why don't
you spend a day or two going back through old archives to bring
yourself up-to-speed on what's going on...?!?!

I have. the fact is you don't make anymore sense in storage than in
real time

I make far greater sense in ANY time than you do.

even granting that , you just hem and haw and refuse to answer you use
words games to point I can't follow you or find just what you are
reffering to

Because it's months and months of posts, and I'm not going to
repeat it all here when you can spend some of your daylight hours
reading it for yourself.

no it would be simple

and it matters when I read your post? what are they typed with?




Still not getting it, are you?

repating yourself does not make you turthful

Maybe YOU like "repating" yourself, Markie...

not esp, but you leave me few choices


Matter of fact, I bet that "partner" of yours is just beyond your
wrists.

More about my sex life? and you deny being obsessesed?


It would be a fact.

it would also be a fact its facthood does not alter it's status as a
claim

Learn English

I already have.

then use it


I wish YOU would.

I do


Google is the Archive of RRAP

It's not about RRAP, Markie.

yes it is

Then you're completely lost, Markie.

yes lost in your bull####

Still can't communicate without the profanity, eh?

was geting anywhere without so decided to try using it no better result
no worse either

and it is vulgarity not profanity


ENGLISH, MARKIE! Use complete sentences with proper format and
punctuation, please.

you LEARN English learn the meaning of the words Claim and Fact for a
start

Already know them.

no you don't


you tell me to look for your claims in RRAP archives then tell me it
isn't there

you use logic and plain reason

I do use logic and plain reason.

nope


YOU don't keep track of what's being said. I can't help that.

you keep changing your stories

worse than John Kerry


Know how I know, Markie?

Because I am already competent in it's use and comprehension.

You would have known that had you been too!

I just did not bother

Lazy punk...Just like I said.

right I am too lazy to dance your dance, do your work, carry your
freight


you generate so much drivel I can't afford the time to care about ####
like that

The divvel's in Michigan.

nope it is in RRAP


Nope, but that is not the exaplanation. I know as they do that to keep
the ARES folks providing what help they are you have to feed their
egos. Therefore as is their duty to Nation they are lying or if you
prefer egaeratinng the role of ARES

What was THAT spiel, Markie?

the truth as best I know it

Then you don't know what's "best", Markie.

but I know how the goverment works

No you don't.

yes I do


Just ill-prepared opinion unsubstantiated by facts.

well prepared but unsupported by any facts i have presented

You've not presented any facts.

right I said that Stevie



Why present no facts becuase you are not listening anyway

Why should I listen when this is a visual media?

since you can't seem to read thought it might help to listen


You're claiming that it's the "duty" of the Red Cross, etc etc to
LIE to the country just to validate the existance of ARES...?!?!

yes indeed

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Kayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.........

As it was the Duty of FDR to nation to tell lies about Lend lease and
cash and cary in order to ready the USA for WW2. FDR was one of the
biggest liars to hold that office, and I bless him for hoving the
courage to do his duty even if by lies and deceit


WHAT AN IDIOT!~

I reiterate....

WHAT AN IDIOT!

not at all a valid representation fo History

You're right...Nothing you've said is a valid representation of
history.

more stevie distrtion I have accurately describe FDR's terms in office


Then WHY did you lie in the first place?

did not lie


From their statement one may infer that they recieve net benifit from
ARES but not the degree of that benifit

Completely incoherent, Markie.

not realy just expressing a type of thought you can't follow

You mean the illogical type? No kidding.

no a type of logic that escapes you

It's not "logic" of ANY kind, other than chaotic.

progress boyo


Try again.

nope

Lazy punk.

narrowminded fool

Yes, you are. I stand corrected.

you are the narrow minded fool stevie


so stuck in a box that you can't even see it


You're just too lazy to spend the time.

I don't have a supply of time to chase down something you will not make
clear what you claim it will result in

In other words: You're just too lazy to spend the time.

No you are too lazy to do your work


Just like your rudeness to Hans. You want things one way, spoon
fed to you, and anything less is "condescending"

if you like

I am just defferent

Oh, you're "defferent", OK...

mighty generous of you


You're looking even MORE ignorant than usual!

On the otherhand, we're still waiting for the name of your
"commander", where those "unlicesed devices" play such a major role in
emergency comms, who allegedly chased the NCT's away and where they
have allegedly gone...

Thanks, Markie. Always a pleasure proving you wrong.

BUZZ worng answer you did not type that use have in that post including
it in reply when I it reamins unclear who typed does not count

Absolutely incoherent.

perfectly

Perfectly incoherent.

prefectly clear to anyone with a brain

No, it's not.

like I said elsewhere you need a brain that lest you out


I don't waste my time that way steve

Sure you do. Your whole life is a waste of time.

right at least I have a life

Uh huh..riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight...Sacrificing chickens and using
your "Hook On Phonics" kit to hold your beer and TV Dinner.

more pagan bashing, and bile


Steve, K4YZ

an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

just what are saying you did

How can we "discuss" anything, Markie, when you are still refusing
to get help for your alleged dyslexia?

Stevie I don't need help, I could use for you cut down on the sheer
volume that would help

I do cut down on the volume.

steveie you are not cutting the volume you are incresing it

Nope. You need to go back and compare, Markie. Print some pages
off and comatre

You've not been paying attention.

I have indeed I have been giving you more attention than you deserve,
practicing my skills at dealing with narrowminded jerks (one of the big
reason for coming to RRAP these days)

but you haven't been saying much anything

Sure I have.

Big snip of Mark's excuses for "not finding" things...Maybe if we
can get Google to do it in crayon?


What an idiot.

another stevie distorion

No distortion. Pretty brief and concise, I thought.

How many do I have to say that before you understand

So you're admitting you're computer illiterate too...?!?!

nope

Sure seems like you are!

Sheesh. Are there no bounds to your limitations...?!?!

(Chew on that Mobius Loop for a while!)

Mobius has nothing do with it

you tell me to look for something without giving me enough to id it in
the first place

If you knew HOW to do a search, you'd find it. Ask Brain.

Markie, it's in the archives...Just like the rules you couldn't
find about the 60 meter allocations "weren't" in Part 97.

They are not it a text put out by the FCC if you follow one set of link
Hans then points out a Defferent links that do

Hans found it.

I found it.

What was your problem?

By the Same Stanard the existance of MY callsign proves I know how the
NTS works, since I don't your logic seem flawed, at best

No, it doesn't.

yes it does

Nope. It just means you have a license.

MARS REQUIRES participation in a training period followed by
regular participation.

Because it's months and months of posts, and I'm not going to
repeat it all here when you can spend some of your daylight hours
reading it for yourself.

no it would be simple

and it matters when I read your post? what are they typed with?

Unlike your posts, I use my fingers. Yours appear to be done in
QLF mode.

yes lost in your bull####

Still can't communicate without the profanity, eh?

was geting anywhere without so decided to try using it no better result
no worse either

and it is vulgarity not profanity

It is profanity.

YOU don't keep track of what's being said. I can't help that.

you keep changing your stories

worse than John Kerry

No I don't.

I just did not bother

Lazy punk...Just like I said.

right I am too lazy to dance your dance, do your work, carry your
freight

No.

You're just a lazy punk.

You're right...Nothing you've said is a valid representation of
history.

more stevie distrtion I have accurately describe FDR's terms in office

No you didn't.

Then WHY did you lie in the first place?

did not lie

Sure you did.

From their statement one may infer that they recieve net benifit from
ARES but not the degree of that benifit

Completely incoherent, Markie.

not realy just expressing a type of thought you can't follow

You mean the illogical type? No kidding.

no a type of logic that escapes you

It's not "logic" of ANY kind, other than chaotic.

progress boyo

No progress, Wusso.

Try again.

nope

Lazy punk.

narrowminded fool

Yes, you are. I stand corrected.

you are the narrow minded fool stevie

Nope.

so stuck in a box that you can't even see it

Uh huh...Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii ght.

You're just too lazy to spend the time.

I don't have a supply of time to chase down something you will not make
clear what you claim it will result in

In other words: You're just too lazy to spend the time.

No you are too lazy to do your work

No, You're just too lazy to spend the time.

right at least I have a life

Uh huh..riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight...Sacrificing chickens and using
your "Hook On Phonics" kit to hold your beer and TV Dinner.

more pagan bashing, and bile

Nope.

Steve, K4YZ

"an_old_friend" wrote


They are not it a text put out by the FCC if you follow one set of link
Hans then points out a Defferent links that do


I used your link set and it leads to EXACTLY the same text.

de Hans, K0HB

then you did not follow them right still get from FFC.gov to a
defferent set as well what you posted

is the end point
http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2...access.gpo.go=
v/cfr_2004/octqtr/47cfr97.305.htm



Subpart D_Technical Standards

Sec. 97.305 Authorized emission types.

(a) An amateur station may transmit a CW emission on any frequency
authorized to the control operator.
(b) A station may transmit a test emission on any frequency
authorized to the control operator for brief periods for experimental
purposes, except that no pulse modulation emission may be transmitted
on
any frequency where pulse is not specifically authorized and no SS
modulation emission may be transmitted on any frequency where SS is not

specifically authorized.
(c) A station may transmit the following emission types on the
frequencies indicated, as authorized to the control operator, subject
to
the standards specified in Sec. 97.307(f) of this part.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------------------------------------

Standards see Sec. 97.307(f),
Wavelength band Frequencies Emission types authorized
paragraph:
---------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------------------------------------
MF:
160 m Entire band.......... RTTY,
data........................ (3).
160 m Entire band.......... Phone,
image...................... (1), (2).
HF:
80 m Entire band.......... RTTY,
data........................ (3), (9).
75 m Entire band.......... Phone,
image...................... (1), (2).
40 m 7.000-7.100 MHz...... RTTY,
data........................ (3), (9).
40 m 7.075-7.100 MHz...... Phone,
image...................... (1), (2), (9), (11).
40 m 7.100-7.150 MHz...... RTTY,
data........................ (3), (9).
40 m 7.150-7.300 MHz...... Phone,
image...................... (1), (2).
30 m Entire band.......... RTTY,
data........................ (3).
20 m 14.00-14.15 MHz...... RTTY,
data........................ (3).
20 m 14.15-14.35 MHz...... Phone,
image...................... (1), (2).
17 m 18.068-18.110 MHz.... RTTY,
data........................ (3).
17 m 18.110-18.168 MHz.... Phone,
image...................... (1), (2).
15 m 21.0-21.2 MHz........ RTTY,
data........................ (3), (9).
15 m 21.20-21.45 MHz...... Phone,
image...................... (1), (2).
12 m 24.89-24.93 MHz...... RTTY,
data........................ (3).
12 m 24.93-24.99 MHz...... Phone,
image...................... (1), (2).
10 m 28.0-28.3 MHz........ RTTY,
data........................ (4).
10 m 28.3-28.5 MHz........ Phone,
image...................... (1), (2), (10).
10 m 28.5-29.0 MHz........ Phone,
image...................... (1), (2).
10 m 29.0-29.7 MHz........ Phone,
image...................... (2).
VHF:
6 m 50.1-51.0 MHz........ MCW, phone, image, RTTY,
data..... (2), (5).
Do 51.0-54.0 MHz........ MCW, phone, image, RTTY, data,
(2), (5), (8).
test.
2 m 144.1-148.0 MHz...... MCW, phone, image, RTTY, data,
(2), (5), (8).
test.
1.25 m 219-220 MHz..........
Data.............................. (13).
Do 222-225 MHz.......... MCW, phone, image, RTTY, data,
(2), (6), (8).
test.
UHF:
70 cm Entire band.......... MCW, phone, image, RTTY, data,
SS, (6), (8).
test.
33 cm Entire band.......... MCW, phone, image, RTTY, data,
SS, (7), (8), and (12).
test, pulse.
23 cm Entire band.......... MCW, phone, image, RTTY, data,
SS, (7), (8), and (12).
test.
13 cm Entire band.......... MCW, phone, image, RTTY, data,
SS, (7), (8), and (12).
test, pulse.
SHF:
9 cm Entire band.......... MCW, phone, image, RTTY, data,
SS, (7), (8), and (12).
test, pulse.
5 cm Entire band.......... MCW, phone, image, RTTY, data,
SS, (7), (8), and (12).
test, pulse.
3 cm Entire band.......... MCW, phone, image, RTTY, data,
SS, (7), (8), and (12).
test.
1.2 cm Entire band.......... MCW, phone, image, RTTY, data,
SS, (7), (8), and (12).
test, pulse.
EHF:
6 mm Entire band.......... MCW, phone, image, RTTY, data,
SS, (7), (8), and (12).
test, pulse.
4 mm Entire band.......... MCW, phone, image, RTTY, data,
SS, (7), (8), and (12).
test, pulse.
2.5 mm Entire band.......... MCW, phone, image, RTTY, data,
SS, (7), (8), and (12).
test, pulse.
2 mm Entire band.......... MCW, phone, image, RTTY, data,
SS, (7), (8), and (12).
test, pulse.
1mm Entire band.......... MCW, phone, image, RTTY, data,
SS, (7), (8), and (12).
test, pulse.


K=D8HB wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote


They are not it a text put out by the FCC if you follow one set of link
Hans then points out a Defferent links that do


I used your link set and it leads to EXACTLY the same text.

so you did not follow the same set of links

=20
de Hans, K0HB

"an_old_friend" wrote

then you did not follow them right

Yes, I followed them right, and got to:

http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2...7cfr97.303.htm

[Code of Federal Regulations]
[Title 47, Volume 5]
[Revised as of October 1, 2004]
From the U.S. Government Printing Office via GPO Access
[CITE: 47CFR97.303]

[Page 602-606]

TITLE 47--TELECOMMUNICATION

CHAPTER I--FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS
COMMISSION (CONTINUED)

PART 97_AMATEUR RADIO SERVICE--Table of Contents

Subpart D_Technical Standards
..
..
..
..
..
Sec. 97.303 (s)An amateur station having an operator holding a General,
Advanced or Amateur Extra Class license may only transmit single
sideband, suppressed carrier, (emission type 2K8J3E) upper sideband on
the channels 5332 kHz, 5348 kHz, 5368 kHz, 5373 kHz, and 5405 kHz.
Amateur operators shall ensure that their transmission occupies only the
2.8 kHz centered around each of these frequencies. Transmissions shall
not exceed an effective radiated power (e.r.p) of 50 W PEP. For the
purpose of computing e.r.p. the transmitter PEP will be multiplied with
the antenna

[[Page 606]]

gain relative to a dipole or the equivalent calculation in decibels. A
half wave dipole antenna will be presumed to have a gain of 0 dBd.
Licensees using other antennas must maintain in their station records
either manufacturer data on the antenna gain or calculations of the
antenna gain. No amateur station shall cause harmful interference to
stations authorized in the mobile and fixed services; nor is any amateur
station protected from interference due to the operation of any such
station.

[54 FR 25857, June 20, 1989; 54 FR 39536, Sept. 27, 1989, as amended at
56 FR 19611, Apr. 29, 1991; 56 FR 23025, May 20, 1991; 56 FR 32518, July
17, 1991; 56 FR 40801, Aug. 16, 1991; 57 FR 40344, Sept. 3, 1992; 60 FR
15687, Mar. 27, 1995; 61 FR 15386, Apr. 8, 1996; 62 FR 9673, Mar. 3,
1997; 63 FR 42280, Aug. 7, 1998; 68 FR 33026, June 3, 2003; 69 FR 3265,
Jan. 23, 2004]