an old friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

an old friend wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:


an_old_friend wrote:

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which mean what? that he knows nothing?

You know, I hadn't thought of that. I meant that the Roger Wiseman who
is behind these anonymous remailer posts is a non-entity in my life. He
has seen my precisely once in his life. But now that you've mentioned
it, he really is the kind of guy who knows little of anything. Use
Google and look under Roger Wiseman, AB8MQ and KC8JBO.


One I don't take your orders

You don't? Did you think I gave you an order a short time ago when you
provided Google links here, which you erroneously claimed were my flirts
in a personals newsgroup with a bisexual, married stripper?


you ordered nagged and harrased me till I did it and found what I see
as your flirting etc as well more of gay bashing in yet other groups
but never found what you claimed I would find

You never found anything about me flirting and you never found any "gay
bashing" either. I'm sure you could find my opposition to gay marriage.
I'm sure that you know that I find homosexuality to be forbidden by my
religion and that I can't find the words to adequately express my
disgust. I'm sure that you didn't find the material I suggested that
you seek because you are incapable of using Google's search engine.

How about if I order, nag and harass you until you look up "Roger
Wiseman", "AB8MQ" and "KC8JBO"?

Two Noone knows nothing, even you must know something god help Ican't
say what it might be, but I am certain you know something

Who's noone?


noone at all

Darkness at noone.

cut




You can't use your own name lest you have
the police on your doorstep again. You have to be very, very careful.


Really? Doubtful, since they haven't been on my doorstep.

Sure they have, a number of times, and you've been invited to see them
as well.


You know this How?

I learned of it during several visits to Glen Dale, WV Polic Chief
Norman Stenger. Glen Dale Police Officers are quite familiar with Mr.
Wiseman. They had dealings with him before my visits.


still don't see any proof you know this alleged fact

If it worries you, call 'em and ask: (304) 845-5511 gets you the city
building.


no Thanks do your own staking

You wanted proof. I provide a way for you to obtain it. That you
choose not to do so isn't my concern. As to "staking", that's exactly
what I did before responding to this post--I had a steak.


We don't bother with the uses of lang?


knwo neither of you does

And a happy "knwo" to you too. I know of no one who uses the term "lang".


Good amateur practice says you should monitor before doing anything else. You'd
think an world class DXer who talks to out of banders like you would know that.

You know nothing of my activies on 6m from overseas. By the way, it is
"a world class DXer", not "an world class DXer". Makes little
difference, I've never claimed to be either.


If he and the rest of US know nothing then I guess all of your posts
about them must have been lies

You just jumped to a false conclusion. Folks here know only because
I've seen fit to tell them. The only folks who know for sure are those
who worked me on 6m....and me.


Not at all just one you don't like

What?


again check you english data bank

My English data bank can't make heads nor tails of a response in
gibberish which doesn't track with the flow of conversation.

My comment: "The only folks who know for sure are those who worked me on
6m....and me"

Your response: "Not at all just one you don't like"

It appears that you believe that the only people who know for sure about
my 6m operations from overseas are just ones I don't like. That doesn't
make any sense at all.

and with You I doubt even the other hams kew what they were dealing
with (or realy cared either)

We must be on another topic with which you have no familiarity. If I
was the only 6m op from a rare African DX spot and the band opened, the
ops on the other end of a QSO knew who and what they were dealing with
and they cared very much.

no we are not

You are off on one topic while the rest of us are on another topic,
which has been the porblem most of the time with you

I made a direct response to your statement. Now you'd like me to
believe that I'm on a different topic. Again, Mark, that doesn't make
any sense.


Dave K8MN

Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer wrote:
In article
Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote:

Italy Anonymous Remailer wrote:

In article
Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote:



Hiding behind the curtains.


That's rich, coming from somebody who thinks they are a character from a

1950's

TV show. Or should I say hiding behind a character from a 1950's TV show?

Yes,

that's more correct.



Come see me fat boy,


Fatass, the only fat boy is you!


I sure won't hide behind the curtains like you do.


No, you'll just hide behind that front door whimpering and sniveling, like you
do when you hide behind that 1950's TV show character screen name.

And you hide behind an anonymous remailer. Come on down coward, the door
is open.

Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer wrote:
In article . net
Dave Heil wrote:


You know, I hadn't thought of that.


You could fill an encyclopedia with what you haven't thought of.


I meant that the Roger Wiseman who is behind these anonymous remailer posts


Yep, Roger is behind every post. Paranoid much?


is a non-entity in my life.


And yet, you are stalking him.

It would appear that the Roger-as-anonymous-poster is doing the stalking.

it, he really is the kind of guy who knows little of anything. Use
Google and look under Roger Wiseman, AB8MQ and KC8JBO.


Neither do you. I bet he knows not to work out of banders.

He doesn't even know enough not QRM other stations on 20m. He's had a
couple of FCC warning letters and was forced to retest.

I learned of it during several visits to Glen Dale, WV Polic Chief


It's "Police", you really shouldn't mix the booze with those prescription
painkillers you are addicted to.


Norman Stenger. Glen Dale Police Officers are quite familiar with Mr.
Wiseman. They had dealings with him before my visits.


Only hearsay, and we all know what a liar Dave Vile is. So anything he says is
a lie. Looks like Vile has lied and can't prove Roger had previous dealings
with the police. He speasks in generalities and can't name specifics.

You've been dealt with over your e-mailings to me and over your
newsgroup filth posts. That's one of the reasons that you can't come
out in the open and that you have to hide behind remailers and deny your
identity. You'll live in usenet infamy as a sociopath.


If it worries you, call 'em and ask: (304) 845-5511 gets you the city


They don't give out information like that to the public, Vile.

....at least you hope not.

building.


Better still, you can report Dave Vile for stalking with the
Marshall County, West Virginia Prosecutor's office:

Courthouse
Seventh St.
Moundsville, WV 26041
(304) 845-3580

Or the Marshall County West Virginia Sheriff's Office:
601 6th St.
Moundsville, WV 26041
(304)843-1500

....but you claim that you aren't Roger Wiseman. You're some anonymous
nobody in cyber space. How can someone stalk a nonexistent person? I
haven't seen Roger Wiseman since he fled a Marshall County ARES meeting
several years ago. He never returned.

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil wrote:
an old friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

an old friend wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:


an_old_friend wrote:

cut


which mean what? that he knows nothing?

You know, I hadn't thought of that. I meant that the Roger Wiseman who
is behind these anonymous remailer posts is a non-entity in my life. He
has seen my precisely once in his life. But now that you've mentioned
it, he really is the kind of guy who knows little of anything. Use
Google and look under Roger Wiseman, AB8MQ and KC8JBO.


One I don't take your orders

You don't? Did you think I gave you an order a short time ago when you
provided Google links here, which you erroneously claimed were my flirts
in a personals newsgroup with a bisexual, married stripper?


you ordered nagged and harrased me till I did it and found what I see
as your flirting etc as well more of gay bashing in yet other groups
but never found what you claimed I would find

You never found anything about me flirting and you never found any "gay
bashing" either. I'm sure you could find my opposition to gay marriage.
I'm sure that you know that I find homosexuality to be forbidden by my
religion and that I can't find the words to adequately express my

and you admit here to your gay bashing by repeating it in summary form

disgust. I'm sure that you didn't find the material I suggested that
you seek because you are incapable of using Google's search engine.

no it is becuase of one of 2 thing (i can't tell which at this point)

One possiblity is that I lack enough details about your claims to have
a narrow enough search to have a chance to find it

the other is that you have been lying and it isn't there to be found


How about if I order, nag and harass you until you look up "Roger
Wiseman", "AB8MQ" and "KC8JBO"?

you can try (alas I can't stop you) but i played your game once

Two Noone knows nothing, even you must know something god help Ican't
say what it might be, but I am certain you know something

Who's noone?


noone at all

Darkness at noone.

cut




You can't use your own name lest you have
the police on your doorstep again. You have to be very, very careful.


Really? Doubtful, since they haven't been on my doorstep.

Sure they have, a number of times, and you've been invited to see them
as well.


You know this How?

I learned of it during several visits to Glen Dale, WV Polic Chief
Norman Stenger. Glen Dale Police Officers are quite familiar with Mr.
Wiseman. They had dealings with him before my visits.


still don't see any proof you know this alleged fact

If it worries you, call 'em and ask: (304) 845-5511 gets you the city
building.


no Thanks do your own staking

You wanted proof. I provide a way for you to obtain it. That you
choose not to do so isn't my concern. As to "staking", that's exactly
what I did before responding to this post--I had a steak.

no you provided away I can help you harrass someone I don't know



We don't bother with the uses of lang?


knwo neither of you does

And a happy "knwo" to you too. I know of no one who uses the term "lang".


Good amateur practice says you should monitor before doing anything else. You'd
think an world class DXer who talks to out of banders like you would know that.

You know nothing of my activies on 6m from overseas. By the way, it is
"a world class DXer", not "an world class DXer". Makes little
difference, I've never claimed to be either.


If he and the rest of US know nothing then I guess all of your posts
about them must have been lies

You just jumped to a false conclusion. Folks here know only because
I've seen fit to tell them. The only folks who know for sure are those
who worked me on 6m....and me.


Not at all just one you don't like

What?


again check you english data bank

My English data bank can't make heads nor tails of a response in
gibberish which doesn't track with the flow of conversation.

not my fault


My comment: "The only folks who know for sure are those who worked me on
6m....and me"

another Daveie lie what you realy said was "You just jumped to a false
conclusion. Folks here know only because I've seen fit to tell them."
[plus the other statement

Your response: "Not at all just one you don't like"

and my response is that the statement quoted again

and it is true I came to one (conclusion) that you don't like

I came to this conclusion becuase you after days of asking reused to
answer my questions, therefore as I said I would I have to accept
Brain's account of the matter

It appears that you believe that the only people who know for sure about
my 6m operations from overseas are just ones I don't like. That doesn't
make any sense at all.

then you are stupid but we knew that

and with You I doubt even the other hams kew what they were dealing
with (or realy cared either)

We must be on another topic with which you have no familiarity. If I
was the only 6m op from a rare African DX spot and the band opened, the
ops on the other end of a QSO knew who and what they were dealing with
and they cared very much.

no we are not

You are off on one topic while the rest of us are on another topic,
which has been the porblem most of the time with you

I made a direct response to your statement. Now you'd like me to
believe that I'm on a different topic. Again, Mark, that doesn't make
any sense.


Dave K8MN

an Old friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

an old friend wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:


an old friend wrote:


Dave Heil wrote:



an_old_friend wrote:

cut



which mean what? that he knows nothing?

You know, I hadn't thought of that. I meant that the Roger Wiseman who
is behind these anonymous remailer posts is a non-entity in my life. He
has seen my precisely once in his life. But now that you've mentioned
it, he really is the kind of guy who knows little of anything. Use
Google and look under Roger Wiseman, AB8MQ and KC8JBO.


One I don't take your orders

You don't? Did you think I gave you an order a short time ago when you
provided Google links here, which you erroneously claimed were my flirts
in a personals newsgroup with a bisexual, married stripper?


you ordered nagged and harrased me till I did it and found what I see
as your flirting etc as well more of gay bashing in yet other groups
but never found what you claimed I would find

You never found anything about me flirting and you never found any "gay
bashing" either. I'm sure you could find my opposition to gay marriage.
I'm sure that you know that I find homosexuality to be forbidden by my
religion and that I can't find the words to adequately express my


and you admit here to your gay bashing by repeating it in summary form

That is not gay bashing. I object to homosexuality on religious
grounds. I object to the concept of gay marriage. I find homosexual
practice to be disgusting and repugnant. No law in this country can
force me to like or accept your perverse form of sexuality but I make
no attempt to prevent it or to harm you in any way.

disgust. I'm sure that you didn't find the material I suggested that
you seek because you are incapable of using Google's search engine.


no it is becuase of one of 2 thing (i can't tell which at this point)

One possiblity is that I lack enough details about your claims to have
a narrow enough search to have a chance to find it

That was addressed by my earlier comment.

the other is that you have been lying and it isn't there to be found

We have a third possibility: that you are lying about it simply because
you feel like it.

How about if I order, nag and harass you until you look up "Roger
Wiseman", "AB8MQ" and "KC8JBO"?


you can try (alas I can't stop you) but i played your game once

Well, you claimed that the reasons you did the earlier search is because
I somehow ordered you and harassed you. Well if I can't do it now, the
chances are good that I couldn't do it earlier.


You know nothing of my activies on 6m from overseas. By the way, it is
"a world class DXer", not "an world class DXer". Makes little
difference, I've never claimed to be either.


If he and the rest of US know nothing then I guess all of your posts
about them must have been lies

You just jumped to a false conclusion. Folks here know only because
I've seen fit to tell them. The only folks who know for sure are those
who worked me on 6m....and me.


Not at all just one you don't like

What?


again check you english data bank

My English data bank can't make heads nor tails of a response in
gibberish which doesn't track with the flow of conversation.


not my fault

Ah, back to your victim status. You can't put a sentence together so
that it can be understood, but the problem isn't yours. Right.

My comment: "The only folks who know for sure are those who worked me on
6m....and me"


another Daveie lie what you realy said was "You just jumped to a false
conclusion. Folks here know only because I've seen fit to tell them."
[plus the other statement

Your response: "Not at all just one you don't like"


and my response is that the statement quoted again

and it is true I came to one (conclusion) that you don't like

I came to this conclusion becuase you after days of asking reused to
answer my questions, therefore as I said I would I have to accept
Brain's account of the matter

It is tiresome to keep explaining things to you, Mark. You have no
first hand knowledge of my 6m operation from overseas. Brian has no
first hand knowledge of my 6m operation from overseas. The
ever-anonymous Roger Wiseman has no first hand knowledge of my 6m
operation from overseas.

The o n l y people who know for sure about them are those who QSO'd
me...and me. All others have only secondhand information.

I am under no obligation to provide you answers just because you have
questions.

It appears that you believe that the only people who know for sure about
my 6m operations from overseas are just ones I don't like. That doesn't
make any sense at all.


then you are stupid but we knew that

I'm sure if you have problems making people understand you, you come to
the conclusion that everyone else is stupid.

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil wrote:
an Old friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
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You never found anything about me flirting and you never found any "gay
bashing" either. I'm sure you could find my opposition to gay marriage.
I'm sure that you know that I find homosexuality to be forbidden by my
religion and that I can't find the words to adequately express my


and you admit here to your gay bashing by repeating it in summary form

That is not gay bashing.cut

it certainly is

cut I object to homosexuality on religious grounds.cut

so what?

cut I object to the concept of gay marriage.

so what?

I find homosexual
practice to be disgusting and repugnant.

clearly gay bashing

No law in this country can
force me to like or accept your perverse form of sexuality but I make
no attempt to prevent it or to harm you in any way.

another lie

you seek and support harm the Gay and bisexaul citizins of the nations
by dening them te same legal standing for theire relationship as you
enjoy in yours

you also seek to use the fact I am Bisexual as an excuse to attack me
in forum where my sexual orientation is not relavant, this harms me and
proves you a liar


disgust. I'm sure that you didn't find the material I suggested that
you seek because you are incapable of using Google's search engine.


no it is becuase of one of 2 thing (i can't tell which at this point)

One possiblity is that I lack enough details about your claims to have
a narrow enough search to have a chance to find it

That was addressed by my earlier comment.

no it wasn't you have refused to provide enough detail to make a real
search


the other is that you have been lying and it isn't there to be found
cuting more bs

How about if I order, nag and harass you until you look up "Roger
Wiseman", "AB8MQ" and "KC8JBO"?


you can try (alas I can't stop you) but i played your game once

Well, you claimed that the reasons you did the earlier search is because
I somehow ordered you and harassed you. Well if I can't do it now, the
chances are good that I couldn't do it earlier.

faulty logic Dave


cut

My comment: "The only folks who know for sure are those who worked me on
6m....and me"


another Daveie lie what you realy said was "You just jumped to a false
conclusion. Folks here know only because I've seen fit to tell them."
[plus the other statement

Your response: "Not at all just one you don't like"


and my response is that the statement quoted again

and it is true I came to one (conclusion) that you don't like

I came to this conclusion becuase you after days of asking reused to
answer my questions, therefore as I said I would I have to accept
Brain's account of the matter

It is tiresome to keep explaining things to you, Mark. You have no
first hand knowledge of my 6m operation from overseas. Brian has no
first hand knowledge of my 6m operation from overseas. The
ever-anonymous Roger Wiseman has no first hand knowledge of my 6m
operation from overseas.

none of these folks to my knwoledge hhas any such claim

but based on your accounts we have formed opinions

cut
I am under no obligation to provide you answers just because you have
questions.

I never claimed you did but if you want me to accept your claims then
you must met my terms

Based on the info you have provide I can see no other conclusion but
that you are willing to knowingly aid and bet others in the breaking of
thier local laws

You might be able to change that opinion but you have to answer my
questions to do so

That you will not answer a few simple questions makes me believe the
answers will support my existing conclusion.

that you refuse to take such a simple to establish my trust means I
will consider taking any "challenge" of yours.
cut

Fritz Wuehler wrote:
In article . net
Dave Heil wrote:


You know? How would you know? You're just some guy hiding behind
anonymous remailers.


And you're hiding behind other things that are so obvious. Like seeing Roger
everywhere.

Sorry, that is incorrect. I don't see Roger at all. He spends a lot of
time hiding. Right now he hides behind anonymous remailers.

And posting under other names.

You spend much time trying to uncover the identities of your various
adversaries. You aren't very successful. I post under nothing but my
e-mail address. Take it to the bank.


And trying to be a moderator of a public
newsgroup.

No, I've never attempted to moderate an unmoderated newsgroup.


Is everyone targeting me?


Your backside has taken quite a number of hits, according to the Google
archives. Especially of late, when the pretend Marine is absent.

Why, not at all, Roger. One has only to look up "Roger Wiseman",
"AB8MQ" or "KC8JBO" to find someone who has taken *real* hits--and
justifiably so.

Is everyone using anonymous remailers?


If they did, would you whine more than you usually do?

If they did, you wouldn't have any idea who I am.

Does everyone monitor local repeaters


I don't hear your local repeaters. I would imagine most hams monitor their
local repeaters.


and the West Virginia Phone Net?


It sounds like your mental illness is in full swing. Now, you'll reply some
lame comment about hearing sounds, but as usual, you'll just be projecting your
own numerous shortcomings onto others.

Oh, maybe you're a different anonymous type than the one who report
hearing my signal checking into that net. *snicker*

Trying hiding behind a 4 x 4, Roger.


Why would I, since I'm not Roger, you stupid man.


Sure they have, a number of times, and you've been invited to see them
as well.


No, they haven't and no, I haven't. I can't speak for anybody else, though.
I'm sure you'll be able to post proof that Roger has, you wouldn't make
unsubstantiated comments, now would you?

Oh, right. I get it. Mum's the word. ;-) The comments I've made about
Roger Wiseman don't begin to do him justice.

No, not the self-proclaimned "A-1
operator" with the "strict morals."

You've made a mistake. I didn't proclaim myself an A-1 Op. It doesn't
work that way. The ARRL Web has listings by call and by name.

And since when does the police deny freedom of speech?

Since when *do* the police, not *does* the police.


Wrong. You should brush up on your English skills, former errand boy.

That's incorrect. The word Police is plural. Better luck next time.

Your freedom of speech stops where my rights begin.


Ah, there's that Nazi way we've all come to see in you, Dave Vile. Afraid the
U.S. Consitution disagrees with your narrow minded views, Vile. We don't see
you trying to contact the police at An Old Friend's or Lennie's location. Just
Roger's. More of your stalking of him, I suppose. Too bad for you nothing can
or will be done to anybody. Better save all that hot air, it's likely to be
cold in West Virginny this winter.

Neither Mark Morgan nor Len Anderson has posted any filth regarding
members of my family. Neither of them has ever sent e-mail threats to
my home. Be very, very careful, Roger.

Why don't you make it your life's work to try to find out?


Why don't you quit lying about your so called State Department "experiences?"

What do you know of my or anyone's State Department experience?


You know nothing of my activies on 6m from overseas.


You bragged about talking to out of band Frenchmen.

You'd better do your Google homework. You're short on facts.
What are my 6m activities to you?


By the way, it is "a world class DXer", not "an world class DXer".


No. You flunk English grammar again, former errand boy.

Sorry. Better luck next time. That's two down and only one to go.

Makes little difference, I've never claimed to be either.


More lies. It must make a difference, as defensive as you are about the comment.

I was very clear about what I wrote. It makes little difference as I've
never claimed to be either.

One can't listen in to a public net on a clear frequency? Are you trying to

say

someone can't listen in to a net? And so you have confirmed you have crappy

on-

air audio.

By your rather convoluted logic, I mention that you lurk, but don't
check into, a Section Net and that somehow confirms something about my
transmitted audio?

Wrong, Vile. You have no idea how many people listen into a net, do you? Or is
listening to a net against Dave Vile's rules? Will those that listen to a net
without your permission have to send "I will not listen to a net" a thousand
times by morse code as punishment?

You're drifting. How does my mentioning that you lurk, but don't check
into a Section net confirm something about my transmitted audio as you
claimed?

Ta Ta, Phantom,

Dave K8MN

Nomen Nescio wrote:
In article et
Dave Heil wrote:

wrote:

From: Dave Heil on Fri 26 Aug 2005 05:52



wrote:


From: Dave Heil on Aug 25, 7:12 pm


wrote:



Every time I see such nonsense, it seems to be from a guy who served in
the rear someplace.

Tsk. Whose rear have you served lately?

Not yours.


If you wish to discuss anal sex, find ANOTHER newsgroup for that.

You took my comment and turned it around. Then, when I respond to your
silly question, you think I'm discussing anal sex? What in the world is
the matter with you?


But, Dave Vile, you are into anal sex.....you liked talking about having Mark
Morgan kiss your ass on the WVU 50 yard line.
in . net
"Perhaps he could kiss my ass on the fifty-yard line at a WVU home football
game if he falls short."

Maybe you two fellows have something in common. You equate someone
telling you to kiss his ass with anal sex. That's very, very weird.

Dave K8MN

an Old friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

an Old friend wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:

cut



You never found anything about me flirting and you never found any "gay
bashing" either. I'm sure you could find my opposition to gay marriage.
I'm sure that you know that I find homosexuality to be forbidden by my
religion and that I can't find the words to adequately express my


and you admit here to your gay bashing by repeating it in summary form

That is not gay bashing.cut


it certainly is


cut I object to homosexuality on religious grounds.cut


so what?


cut I object to the concept of gay marriage.


so what?


I find homosexual
practice to be disgusting and repugnant.


clearly gay bashing

I'm sorry, Mark. They aren't gay bashing, no matter how much you choose
to believe that they are. I'm not going to engage you and have you play
a game of "so?" or "yes, it is" with me.

No law in this country can
force me to like or accept your perverse form of sexuality but I make
no attempt to prevent it or to harm you in any way.


another lie

That just isn't correct, Mark.

you seek and support harm the Gay and bisexaul citizins of the nations
by dening them te same legal standing for theire relationship as you
enjoy in yours

There is no recognized right of homosexuals to marry those of their own
gender. They have the equal right to marry one of the opposite gender.
You, as a bisexual, don't get to marry one of each gender. If you think
the morse code battle was a tough one, try to have an estimated 3% of
the population try to pass such laws in a country where a large majority
is dead set against it.

you also seek to use the fact I am Bisexual as an excuse to attack me
in forum where my sexual orientation is not relavant, this harms me and
proves you a liar

Mark, you have a number of issues. If you thought your bisexuality
would harm you, you surely wouldn't have posted the things you did in
other newsgroups. Right now, you're attempting to engage me in an
argument over your bisexuality. I don't accept it and don't condone it.
If you and whoever, want to engage in whatever sexual acts you engage in
and you'd like to sprinkle in a little game of pee-on-me or spank-me, in
the privacy of someone's home, then go for it. If you want to pray to
some trees and shrubs, be my guest. If you want to blame life's
problems on your dyslexia, do it. But I don't intend to accord you
victim status or call you "special". I remember too well your
description of learning morse code at 5 wpm as "torture".

disgust. I'm sure that you didn't find the material I suggested that
you seek because you are incapable of using Google's search engine.


no it is becuase of one of 2 thing (i can't tell which at this point)

One possiblity is that I lack enough details about your claims to have
a narrow enough search to have a chance to find it

That was addressed by my earlier comment.


no it wasn't you have refused to provide enough detail to make a real
search

Then so be it.


My comment: "The only folks who know for sure are those who worked me on
6m....and me"


another Daveie lie what you realy said was "You just jumped to a false
conclusion. Folks here know only because I've seen fit to tell them."
[plus the other statement


Your response: "Not at all just one you don't like"


and my response is that the statement quoted again

and it is true I came to one (conclusion) that you don't like

I came to this conclusion becuase you after days of asking reused to
answer my questions, therefore as I said I would I have to accept
Brain's account of the matter

It is tiresome to keep explaining things to you, Mark. You have no
first hand knowledge of my 6m operation from overseas. Brian has no
first hand knowledge of my 6m operation from overseas. The
ever-anonymous Roger Wiseman has no first hand knowledge of my 6m
operation from overseas.


none of these folks to my knwoledge hhas any such claim

but based on your accounts we have formed opinions

You can form opinions until you're blue in the face. You're forming
them based on second-hand and sometimes third-hand knowledge.

cut

I am under no obligation to provide you answers just because you have
questions.


I never claimed you did but if you want me to accept your claims then
you must met my terms

If you'll recall, I wasn't making the claims. Brian Burke made claims
about me. Wow, you're thick.

Based on the info you have provide I can see no other conclusion but
that you are willing to knowingly aid and bet others in the breaking of
thier local laws

Folks can get plastic surgery but it tough to fix stupidity.

You might be able to change that opinion but you have to answer my
questions to do so

That you will not answer a few simple questions makes me believe the
answers will support my existing conclusion.

that you refuse to take such a simple to establish my trust means I
will consider taking any "challenge" of yours.

Let's cut to the chase, Mark. I don't really care about answering
questions for you, what your conclusions are or whether you consider
taking the FD challenge which you've already said you wouldn't take.

__
AR

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil wrote:
an Old friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

cut

That is not gay bashing.cut
it certainly is
cut I object to homosexuality on religious grounds.cut
so what?
cut I object to the concept of gay marriage.
so what?
I find homosexual
practice to be disgusting and repugnant.


clearly gay bashing

I'm sorry, Mark. They aren't gay bashing, no matter how much you choose
to believe that they are. I'm not going to engage you and have you play
a game of "so?" or "yes, it is" with me.

certianly are gay bashing

engaging me?

It is irelavant to me what your beliefs are, so of course my repsonse
is along the lines of so what

You lack the right in this country to try and make me accept your faith
above my own


that you are too bigoted to admit and to dishonest to admit it not
withstanding

No law in this country can
force me to like or accept your perverse form of sexuality but I make
no attempt to prevent it or to harm you in any way.
another lie
That just isn't correct, Mark.

it sure is
you seek and support harm the Gay and bisexaul citizins of the nations
by dening them te same legal standing for theire relationship as you
enjoy in yours

cuting more bs in which Dave repeats his gay bashing rants

you also seek to use the fact I am Bisexual as an excuse to attack me
in forum where my sexual orientation is not relavant, this harms me and
proves you a liar

Mark, you have a number of issues. If you thought your bisexuality
would harm you, you surely wouldn't have posted the things you did in
other newsgroups.

another lie Dave you are and have been using my sexual orientation as a
excuse to attack me

Right now, you're attempting to engage me in an
argument over your bisexuality.

another lie

I am asking what my being Bisexual has to do with the ARS? you still
will not answer that


cuting more assorted bashing

disgust. I'm sure that you didn't find the material I suggested that
you seek because you are incapable of using Google's search engine.


no it is becuase of one of 2 thing (i can't tell which at this point)

One possiblity is that I lack enough details about your claims to have
a narrow enough search to have a chance to find it

That was addressed by my earlier comment.


no it wasn't you have refused to provide enough detail to make a real
search

Then so be it.

which means you lied in saying you provided it

cut
none of these folks to my knwoledge hhas any such claim

but based on your accounts we have formed opinions

You can form opinions until you're blue in the face. You're forming
them based on second-hand and sometimes third-hand knowledge.

so? I am forming them on the best info I have.

cut

I am under no obligation to provide you answers just because you have
questions.


I never claimed you did but if you want me to accept your claims then
you must met my terms

If you'll recall, I wasn't making the claims. Brian Burke made claims
about me. Wow, you're thick.

you made a number of claims

One that you did nothing wrong

Two that you do not support doing anything wrong

Three you claimed that Brain was lying

you refuse to support these claims


Based on the info you have provide I can see no other conclusion but
that you are willing to knowingly aid and bet others in the breaking of
thier local laws
cut
You might be able to change that opinion but you have to answer my
questions to do so

That you will not answer a few simple questions makes me believe the
answers will support my existing conclusion.

that you refuse to take such a simple to establish my trust means I
will consider taking any "challenge" of yours.

Let's cut to the chase, Mark. I don't really care about answering
questions for you,cut

Cut what your conclusions are cut

a clear and obvious lie.

You clearly carea great deal or else you let it go

You also clearly care a great deal what Brain Burke says about them


cutor whether you consider
taking the FD challenge which you've already said you wouldn't take.

meaning you never took your Challenge seriously in the fist place,
likely because you never intended to abide by it

Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

I haven't seen Roger Wiseman since he fled a Marshall County ARES
meeting several years ago. He never returned.

Tell us about that one Dave, bet it makes an interesting story.

There's not so much to tell. Wiseman showed up at an ARES meeting after
his newsgroup "flurry of filth" festival directed toward my family and
after I'd visited the Glen Dale Police on a number of occasions. They
wanted copies of his e-mails to me and of his newsgroup postings
directed at my family.

I had some words with the lad before the meeting began. After the formal
meeting, N8FQN took us on a tour of the comm van. Roger was there one
moment and he slipped out quietly and beat feet for his car.
Onlookers said he was really moving. He signed up for membership but
has never returned for a single meeting.

Wiseman is about as well-liked by Glen Dale and Moundsville hams as he
is by usenet participants. They know who he is and they know what he is.

One of the locals dropped the dime on Roger for the malicious
interference for which he received the FCC letter in 1999. The guy
included tapes of Wiseman's work on 20m. Roger has since tried to claim
that it was me or N8NN who turned him in but Bert was living in Germany
and I was in Tanzania back then. Neither of us moved back here until
mid-2000. Roger now keeps a very low on-air profile. He's had two
strikes with the Commission and I don't think we wants to risk a third.

Dave K8MN

Italy Anonymous Remailer wrote:
In article
Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote:

Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer wrote:

In article
Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote:


Italy Anonymous Remailer wrote:


In article
Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote:




Hiding behind the curtains.


That's rich, coming from somebody who thinks they are a character from a

1950's


TV show. Or should I say hiding behind a character from a 1950's TV show?

Yes,


that's more correct.



Come see me fat boy,


Fatass, the only fat boy is you!



I sure won't hide behind the curtains like you do.


No, you'll just hide behind that front door whimpering and sniveling, like

you

do when you hide behind that 1950's TV show character screen name.

And you hide behind an anonymous remailer.


And you hide behind a 1950's TV character screen name all the while crying
about somebody else "hiding." Pot Kettle Black, Buzzie.


Come on down coward, the door is open.


How is that possible, when your fat ass blocks most of the opening as you hide
behind the door.

And I notice you didn't tell anybody where to "come down" to.

LOL at the Glendale turd!!!

Dave Heil wrote:
I
haven't seen Roger Wiseman since he fled a Marshall County ARES meeting
several years ago. He never returned.

Dave K8MN

Tell us about that one Dave, bet it makes an interesting story.

Michael Coslo wrote:
wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote:

I ridicule many things.

Bravo!

You do too!

I don't make fun of other people's religious faith.

So where do we stop, Brian?

Has it started?

Oh absolutely.

Is it when they call for the government to
assassinate the leader of a country that they don't like?


Is that when they called to assassinate Bush Sr's life?

No it wasn't. It was when Pat Robertson called for the US to assassinate
Chavez. I'm not talking about politicos, I'm talking about religious
leaders.

Chavez should file charges. Let due process work. BTW, that due
process was set up by evil religious people.

Clinton sent a
couple of missiles into an emply office building to show that you can't
just go around threatening the President.

Is it when

they call for holy war?

Yeh, I think we should draw the line at Jihad.

There ya go!

Bravo! I was wondering if you were racist and only hated WASP's that
call for Jihad.

Is it when they launch inquisitions?

Saddam confessed to crimes.

Not Saddam. But religious leaders have often had purges, inquisitions,
and the like.

Those damned religious people. I wonder if non-religious people have
ever committed atrocities.

Kill people

in the name of an Exorcism? Is it when a Catholic priest is expelled
from the UAR after serving a jail sentence for the crime of evangelizing
without a permit? Is it when the preacher stands in the pulpit and
declares that if you vote for a certain political party, you have to
leave the church? And in my own case, where the local fundies put such a
stranglehold on the school system that not only is evolution not taught
at all, but that no teaching about any dinosaurs or any animal that
didn't live in modern time was taught or discussed.

Abuses in publice education? Couldn't be.

Yup. In the name of religion.

Which religion?

Public education is the grand indoctrination that our children receive
from the left.

Yeah, I keep hearing that. My experience has been otherwise. The far
right controlled education and what we learned in my little burg.

Keep blaming everything on liberals. It's almost as easy as religion.

....as blaming on religion? You tell me.

My "sex ed" class
consisted of one session of naming of various STDs, and that was it.
That is it. less than an hour. I've seen the other side, and it isn't
pretty.

What did your parent's tell you?

Nutthin.

OIC. You blame religion for not teaching you things that your parents
are responsible for teaching you, but when your parents fall down on
the job, it's still the religious people who are blamed. You're double
standard is multi-faceted.

I got my education at the public library, reading the books
that the far right wanted the library to get rid of. It was nice of them
to give out the titles though.

Gay stuff? Recently, one upstanding citizen removed all of the
"alternative lifestyle" free newspapers from the lobby of a public
library. Said he didn't want his children to have to walk past it.

There is one problem with religious tolerance, and that is that many
religions have no concept of tolerance themselves.

Fine. It's called seperation of Church and State. We have that and
more. As rights are denied to Christians, the pendulum begins to swing
the other way.

Problem is that what some Christians consider their right, is to deprive
others of their rights.

Odd. I just reread the Bill of Rights, and I see no right to sex
education. For that matter, I see no right to education at all. As
such, it is a parental obligation to educate you or to pay to have you
educated.

I've been in a religion controlled community. I know how they act when
they are allowed to.

Get out.

Lock up people who make threats against other people and quit whining
to me about it.

I have no idea what you mean here

Robertson vs Chavez.

Aren't you supposed to be an educated man?

Supposed to be. Didn't find out about a lot of things that I should
have known until after I graduated High School.

- Mike KB3EIA -

You weren't supposed to learn everything in high school. That's why we
have colleges. Know anyone who's living depends on other people
thinking there's more to learn?

So it's okay to have forbidden knowledge?

Some issues may not be appropriate to teach in public school. For
example, I draw the line at "intro to Jihad," "intro to bomb making,"
and "intro to the combustible properties of effigies of the President
of the USA."

Meanwhile, I trust that your personal oddysey into human sexual
intercourse education was a success?

Dinosaurs are dangerous? What
threat does a dinosaur have to religion?

Don't know - never seen one. Never seen God, for what that's worth.

Life is a life-long learning experience. Learn something today.

Always do!

- Mike KB3EIA -

Hey, Joslyn Elders advocated teaching masturbation to school children.
You should look her up. You guys might make a dynamic duo on the sex
ed scene.

Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:


wrote:


wrote:


From: on Aug 28, 6:02 pm


Dave Heil wrote:


hot

Dave Heil wrote:


wrote:


Dave Heil wrote:


wrote:
wrote:


From: on Aug 25, 2:42 pm


K4YZ wrote:


Dave Heil wrote:
Frank Gilliland wrote:

I've seen any number of Len's comments made to look like the product of
one who has little experience.

As Len has questioned your net control capabilities.

Not quite true either side. I was citing Heil as a CONTROL FREAK
that he appears to be from all his postings to me. Evident to all.

Closing a net with CW?

The only nets I've ever closed with CW were CW nets.


More word play.

Word play? Hardly. I've never participated in a State Department net
on RTTY or CW.

More word play. Clintonesque.

I fail to see any word play. I made a factual and concise statement of
the truth.

You continue to hide behind nuance. Clintonesque.

Further down you just admitted to opening and closing RTTY net using CW
on "another frequency."

Yes, I did. I was not active on any CW or RTTY net. It can't be much
more plain that that.

What is plain is your contradiction.

I have experience in radio. A considerable amount. Most of it is
PROFESSIONAL radio...that kind that pays money for services
rendered.

Heil must not equate government employ in the Department of State
as "professional" yet he obviously got MONEY for that, PLUS living
expenses.

Obviously he's not professional.

...not any more. There aren't any professional radio amateurs.

When did that end?

It never began.

You should work on your facts.

The W1AW operator is paid a salary to transmit on amateur frequencies.
School teachers may make radio transmissions as a part of their paid
instructions to students.

Is the W1AW op paid to transmit? Are you certain? School teachers
receive a salary for teaching, not for demonstrating amateur radio.

You need to come up to speed on the activities of your ARRL's
transmitters. You might want to look up Rosalie White/Education at HQ
as well. Well, maybe not at HQ anymore, but still working in the
education capacity.

Professional credentials don't get one a pass into amateur radio.

What? Another set of redundant licensing requirements?

They aren't redundant. They're for different services.

Oh yeh, forgot the physics change with the different services.

The regs, purpose, types of operation and requirements for licensing are
different, aren't they?

Not so different.

I recall taking the GROL. Looked identical to the Amatuer Advanced
exam.

Really? Were there lots of regulatory questions dealing with the
amateur bands?

There were lots of identical electronics and radio physics material.
Identical to the Advanced exam. And whaddayaknow? The exam was
administered by a famous VEC. Go figure?

So the only questions on the exam consisted of electronics and radio
physics material?

The questions and answers which were identical to the Advanced exam had
to do with radio and electronics.

...they claim that
his opinions are simply no good because Len isn't a ham.

Sometimes Len's opinions are no good because they are issued because he
has no experience in amateur radio. Sometimes his opinions are no good
because they are the rantings of a geezer with an ax to grind. Often,
he makes factual errors and there have been numerous times when he
deliberately fabricates.

You want us to believe that all of Len's comments are to be discarded.

Heil doesn't like my commenting, therefore I am to be "discarded,"
discredited, demeaned, and some other "d" I can't think of. :-)

demonized.

Deep-sixed.

As in murdered?

As in "deep-sixed".

As in "murdered?"

If "murdered" is what you want to write, then write it. You aren't
going to twist my words.

I'm merely trying to understand what is in the mind of Heil. In any
other context, when a person says "deep-sixed" it means murdered. But
when Heil uses "deep-sixed," what does he mean? If only you weren't so
Clintonesque.

David Heil/K8MN is a primary culprit in that tactic, but Jim has used it as
well.

Oh no, I've by no means been "a primary culprit", but I have
participated over a period of years.

Can you guess how many times you've commented that Len isn't an amateur
radio operator?

He has a macro sentence generator for that. :-)

And there is a purpose for his stating that you're not an amateur.

There certainly is. It is to point out that Len isn't a radio amateur
and that he has no experience in amateur radio.

There must be somthing more to it than that.

A read-between-the-lines guy like you would probably attempt to find a
hidden meaning or agenda.

This is what surprises me. Except for this, your agendas and
double-standards are obvious. This one has me puzzled.

Some things which you might think to be obvious, may not be obvious.
Some things which you see as complex, could be simple.

If only you weren't so Clintonesque.

He is to amateur radio


as a fishing rod to deer hunting.

You're not even close enough to be considered a poor analogue.

It'd be tough to come up with something. I'm a long time participant in
amateur radio. The closest Len can come is being an SWL.

Well there you go! You could say that he is a "lurker" on the HF
frequencies. That should sound nefarious enough to raise eyebrows.

Nothing nefarious need be written. Len's closest involvement with
amateur radio is as SWL. He has told us that he has spoken over amateur
radio stations but he has to beat feet and visit someone in order for a
control op to permit his participation. Yeah, basically, Len can be an
SWL. There's nothing wrong with that. I began as an SWL myself. Len
is still a pre-beginner in amateur radio.

Dave K8MN

Welp, you have to start somewhere, and look where you ended up? An
ARRL A1-Op working out of band Frenchmen on 6M from some rare real
estate in Africa. Hi!

On Thu, 8 Sep 2005, Secwet Scwuffy Woger wrote:
[nothing important]

Thor is the Norse god of thunder. He is a son of Odin and Jord, and one of
the most powerful gods. He is married to Sif, a fertility goddess. His
mistress is the giantess Jarnsaxa ("iron cutlass"), and their sons are
Magni and Modi and his daughter is Thrud. Thor is helped by Thialfi, his
servant and the messenger of the gods.

But today, Thor is all washed up. Know why?

Thor had long hair.

====
"If a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him." -- St. Paul
1 Corinthians 11:14

Dave Heil wrote:
an old friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
cut

Then what's with your little "indeed you do always encourage people to
feed your ego" comment. My statement had nothing to do my ego or with
any self-aggrandizement. It was, in fact, just the opposite.


learn english

your statement was nothing but ego and selfaggrandizement. you have
little but your puff and stract and bluster

You're out of your ever-livin', medicated mind.

not at all I fully in my mind, not at all medicated


you just don't understand the written word, esp if it says anything you
don't wnat to read

Wnat?


indeed my point exactly

Wnat? was your point? Unbelievable.

unbeleiveable? I suppose anything outside your limited mind set is
unblevable

but you just don't understand the written word, esp if it says anything
you
don't want to read
cut
and Torturers are called "Pain Technicians" spin it all you like clerk,
but you are convincing no one, not already tkaen in by your bull****

I'll state it for you again, feeble one. I never worked in the position
of file clerk. You've lied so much and so often that you're assuming
that everyone does.


you still understand

Yes, I understand. You've attempted to create the false impression that
my job was something entirely different than it was.

more lies Dave

your job was trival, and the details never mattered when they are so
trivial

I Know you lie, indeed I know Bill Sohl lies (I am sure he answers
"fine" to the question how are you) everyone does lie.

You're starting to come off as pretty delusional, Mark.

indeed I am sure everyone that disgrees with you is seen as delusional

You lie here with almost every post you make, and in many case I
honestly think you don't know it

Sure, sure, Mark. Everybody lies with every breath they breathe out and
they're all talking about you too.

Never said that another Dave fabrication, never said any such thing

But I am sure you lie every day of your life, without exception

You were a peon, a clerk, a nobody in the dept, you puuf yourself up
with a title but I don't care

cuting more preening of feathers

cut

Tom Cruise worked for the Department of State as a communicator? Get
outta here!


never said that another Dave Fabrication

I asked a question.

and Choose not to answer it as you might (and Steve has) fail to answer
the question have you stoped beating your wife yet
cut

Funny that my informing you that I can't tell you something would
disgust you more than some of your own practices.


auf anglish bitte

It was in English, Mark. Hire a translator to put it into whatever it
is that you speak.

well it make no sense at all

after all nothing I practice disgusts me at all, there it is easy for
you to tell more disgusting

It might helps if youd bother to remember and pass though your brain I
don't beleive in the same things you do

yes I can you try to deny my right to even exist

I asked you to point to an occasion.

anther Lie you said bisexauls do not exist

You did not do so.

I did so

I have never
attempted to deny your right to exist.

wrong

I don't spend a lot of time even
thinking about your existence.

never said you had
cut

Dave Heil wrote:
an old friend wrote:
cut
I'll bet you watch Monk on TV and don't find anything funny about the show.

pay up

I never watch the show.

I find the comercails for it too disgusting, to even consider watching
it

Dave K8MN

"an_old_friend" wrote:
certianly are gay bashing

What's wrong with being gay?

engaging me?


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AB8MQ wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote:
certianly are gay bashing

What's wrong with being gay?

I never said there was that was Dave Heil

engaging me?


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In article . net
Dave Heil wrote:

Sorry, that is incorrect. I don't see Roger at all. He spends a lot of
time hiding. Right now he hides behind anonymous remailers.

You see him behind every post.

You spend much

More lies. I'm rather frugal.

.............

Yes, you are frugal, aren't you? You shop at Save-A-Lot.
And there are those who say you are fairly good at the fifty hard dash, too.

N0VFP wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote:
certianly are gay bashing

What's wrong with being gay?

That is why you are a 31, almost 32 year old VIRGIN, Fatass Davies. Did
you get a new job yet, fired pizza BOY?


Top or bottom?

You are probably a bottom kind of pussy, Davies.

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My, my, what were you whining about cowardice before, Fatass Davies?

Saggytits Lee wrote:

[nothing important]

Jesus is all washed up, too. Why? Jesus had long hair.
--
Saggytits Lee aka Lloydie Davies steps on his own tiny dick when he
tried to correct somebody else's English use first by saying one
"operates" a dictionary instead of reading it, then uses "things"
instead of "thinks" in :

"Translation: Woger can't figure out how to operate a dictionary, let
alone
correct someone else's language.But that's not surprising from someone
who things that..."

Saggytits Lee manages to fumble again when he tried to backpedal on his
improper use of words by once again mangling the sentence in reply
:
"The word "operate" can be a synonym "use" in certain contexts"

Nomen Nescio wrote:
In article
Lardass Lloyd Davies wrote:

What's wrong with being gay?

That is why you are a 31 almost 32 year old VIRGIN, Fatass Davies.


Top or bottom?

You are probably a bottom kind of pussy, Davies.

My man pussy agrees!!

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an_old_friend wrote:
N0VFP wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote:
certianly are gay bashing

What's wrong with being gay?

I never said there was that was Dave Heil

Lloyd is looking for a new boyfriend.

LLoyd Davies
710 S. Clinton St. #202
Athens, AL 35611

N0VFP wrote:
Nomen Nescio wrote:
In article
Lardass Lloyd Davies wrote:

What's wrong with being gay?

That is why you are a 31 almost 32 year old VIRGIN, Fatass Davies.


Top or bottom?

You are probably a bottom kind of pussy, Davies.

My man pussy agrees!!

I'm sure it does, find a new job yet, fired pizza BOY?

"Stagger Leechildraper"
wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
N0VFP wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote:
certianly are gay bashing

What's wrong with being gay?

I never said there was that was Dave Heil

Lloyd is looking for a new boyfriend.


Tell him to stop by my place, I'm not picky.

610 GLEN HAVEN AVE
GLENDALE WV 26038-1302

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Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote:
Italy Anonymous Remailer wrote:
In article
Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote:

Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer wrote:

In article
Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote:


Italy Anonymous Remailer wrote:


In article
Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote:




Hiding behind the curtains.


That's rich, coming from somebody who thinks they are a character from a

1950's


TV show. Or should I say hiding behind a character from a 1950's TV show?

Yes,


that's more correct.



Come see me fat boy,


Fatass, the only fat boy is you!



I sure won't hide behind the curtains like you do.


No, you'll just hide behind that front door whimpering and sniveling, like

you

do when you hide behind that 1950's TV show character screen name.

And you hide behind an anonymous remailer.


And you hide behind a 1950's TV character screen name all the while crying
about somebody else "hiding." Pot Kettle Black, Buzzie.


Come on down coward, the door is open.


How is that possible, when your fat ass blocks most of the opening as you hide
behind the door.

And I notice you didn't tell anybody where to "come down" to.

LOL

You are laughing at somebody else?

You talked tough but you sure did leave out where it was one was
supposed to come down to, your location. Which speaks volumes about
you, fatboy!

Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer wrote:
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Dave Heil wrote:

The way I hear it, the meeting was over when he left. Deal with it, former
State Department errand boy.

It was over for you, Roger. ;-) Everyone else stayed.

Dave K8MN

N0VFP wrote:
"Stagger Leechildraper"
wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
N0VFP wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote:
certianly are gay bashing

What's wrong with being gay?

I never said there was that was Dave Heil

Lloyd is looking for a new boyfriend.


Tell him to stop by my place, I'm not picky.
710 S. Clinton St. #202
Athens, AL 35611
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So you say. But you are a liar.

Dave Vile the liar and hypocrite fails to follow his own advice in
. net:

"Your saying so does not make your statement true. You may think it,
but
you are not correct."

Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer wrote:
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Dave Heil wrote:

He's had a couple of FCC warning letters and was forced to retest.


And you can't count, either.

Roger had 1 warning letter, 1 advisory letter along with another ham, and 1
retest letter.

And from the FCC database, he never lost his license nor was fined and has the
Extra class license. If that retest was supposed to be a "punishment" it sure
backfired since Roger apparently retained his licese and got the Extra.

Thanks for the correction. That's quite an amateur radio resume you've
assembled for yourself. A warning letter, an advisory letter and an
opportunity to retest. The vast majority of radio amateurs never have
even one such letter from the FCC in a lifetime of operating.

I haven't been "dealt" anything, SS-wannabe.

Neither has Roger. And learn how to spell "Police".

Oh, so you aren't Roger Wiseman, but you happen to know all about him,
huh? Are you his imaginary friend? *snicker*

Dave K8MN

On Thu, 8 Sep 2005, Secwet Scwuffy Woger wrote:


Jesus is all washed up, too. Why? Jesus had long hair.

Wrong. Jesus had short hair. Not only did the History Channel discuss
that fact at great length, but bible scholars also agree that the long
hair was only introduced by medieval artists, and was not an accurate
depiction of reality.

That is not to say that short hair is automatically admirable. Take
skinheads for example: They chase people into grocery stores, causing
them to hurt themselves on the entranceway as they flee in terror.

Glendale policemen have short hair too.

Life sux, don't it Woger?


====
"Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it
is a shame unto him?" St. Paul, 1 Corinthians 11:14

Dave Heil wrote:
Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer wrote:
In article . net
Dave Heil wrote:

He's had a couple of FCC warning letters and was forced to retest.


And you can't count, either.

Roger had 1 warning letter, 1 advisory letter along with another ham, and 1
retest letter.

And from the FCC database, he never lost his license nor was fined and has the
Extra class license. If that retest was supposed to be a "punishment" it sure
backfired since Roger apparently retained his licese and got the Extra.

Thanks for the correction.

Oh, so you admit to lying.

That's quite an amateur radio resume you've
assembled for yourself. A warning letter, an advisory letter and an
opportunity to retest.

Yawn. Yet, you worked out of band Frenchman.

The vast majority of radio amateurs never have
even one such letter from the FCC in a lifetime of operating.

So?

I haven't been "dealt" anything, SS-wannabe.

Neither has Roger. And learn how to spell "Police".

Oh,

And you know all about him, do you, stalker?

Dave Heil wrote:
Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

I haven't seen Roger Wiseman since he fled a Marshall County ARES
meeting several years ago. He never returned.

Tell us about that one Dave, bet it makes an interesting story.

There's not so much to tell.

In other words, Dave Vile is about to lie his ass off.

I had some words with the lad before the meeting began.

And as with your newsgroup "orders" nobody took them seriously.
Too bad your attempt to intimidate somebody didn't work. Roger posted
exactly what happened.

After the formal meeting, N8FQN took us on a tour of the comm van. Roger was there one
moment and he slipped out quietly and beat feet for his car.

That's incorrect. The tour occured after the meeting was over. And
after viewing the comm van, which wasn't much to see, Roger left. The
factual version was posted by Roger. You can't lie worth a darn, but
you sure can talk to out of banders.
Hypocrite.

Onlookers said he was really moving.
Dave Vile the liar and hypocrite fails to follow his own advice in
. net:

"Your saying so does not make your statement true. You may think it,
but
you are not correct."


And their names were?

He signed up for membership but


Gee, Vile, so did you and your fat buddy. See the factual account has
been posted by Roger and archived at Google.

has never returned for a single meeting.

No, Roger's membership expired and he hasn't renewed it. Can't blame
him if they all ow stalkers like you in the organization. And why is
that you, the long time ham wasn't a member before then?


Wiseman is about as well-liked

Only disliked by you, Vile.


One of the locals

More lies.

Dave Vile the liar and hypocrite fails to follow his own advice in
. net:

"Your saying so does not make your statement true. You may think it,
but
you are not correct."

Dave Heil wrote:
Nomen Nescio wrote:
In article et
Dave Heil wrote:

wrote:

From: Dave Heil on Fri 26 Aug 2005 05:52



wrote:


From: Dave Heil on Aug 25, 7:12 pm


wrote:



Every time I see such nonsense, it seems to be from a guy who served in
the rear someplace.

Tsk. Whose rear have you served lately?

Not yours.


If you wish to discuss anal sex, find ANOTHER newsgroup for that.

You took my comment and turned it around. Then, when I respond to your
silly question, you think I'm discussing anal sex? What in the world is
the matter with you?


But, Dave Vile, you are into anal sex.....you liked talking about having Mark
Morgan kiss your ass on the WVU 50 yard line.
in . net
"Perhaps he could kiss my ass on the fifty-yard line at a WVU home football
game if he falls short."

Maybe you two fellows have something in common.

Projecting, again?

You equate someone telling you to kiss his ass with anal sex. That's very, very weird.

So is the fact that you claim not to post "filth" and post:

. net
"Perhaps he could kiss my ass on the fifty-yard line at a WVU home
football
game if he falls short."

Hypocrite.

"an_old_friend" wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
an old friend wrote:
cut
I'll bet you watch Monk on TV and don't find anything funny about the
show.

pay up

I never watch the show.

Ever watch gay porn? I love it!

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Lloyd Davies wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
an old friend wrote:
cut
I'll bet you watch Monk on TV and don't find anything funny about the
show.

pay up

I never watch the show.

Ever watch gay porn? I love it!

You sure do, Lardass Davies, you even make kiddie porn!

Lloyd Davies
710 S.Clinton St. #202
Athens, AL 35611

In article
"Lloyd" wrote:

Yes, you are frugal, aren't you? You shop at Save-A-Lot.

No, Roger doesn't shop at Save-a-lot. Try again, dumbass! And tell us
how you have to have food stamps, Davies.

And there are those who say you are fairly good at the fifty hard dash, too.

Funny there are those that say you are good at hiding behind your front
door and sniveling "Leave me alone" in that girly voice of yours, like
you did last Christmas when you had a visitor.

Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

Intimidating Leonard H. Anderson? How does one intimidate a piranha?
Len began personal attacks long before he got on the receiving end.
Discussion of moderating a newsgroup is not a forbidden subject.

I remember well when Leneoard was all upset that some regular poster
here decided to meet on 40m CW. Len probably considered his right of
free speech to be violated in that instance. Of course he was wrong.

The fact is that your claim that Jim Miccolis prevented Len from posting
here is utter nonsense. You're becoming well known for nonsense.

The fact is that there are two sides to every story, and you clowns
think you own both. You don't. Get used to it.

That's three things offered by you as fact. Please provide any old
evidence at all that what you've claimed, that Jim Miccolis prevented
Len from presenting his views here. A single instance will do.

Do you ever tire of being wrong?

Do you ever tire of being an A1 Operator and work out of band Frenchmen
on 6 meters?

Do you?

Why no, Brian, I've never tired of being an A-1 Op. Do you tire of
being one?

I have no certificate from Hiram, suitable for framing. But I do take
pride in my station, my signal, and my operating abilities.

That is admirable.

More than that, it's highly recommended.

And if I
were aware that French hams were out of band, I wouldn't be completing
circuits for them nor sending them QSL cards.

It is your right to do so.

Actually, I consider it an obligation.

You may research the band allocations for
each and every DX station you hear, before you actually call them or
respond to them.

Why should I do that? The case in point, your case, was one of French
amateur working completely outside the French Amateur Authorizations by
several *hundred* kilohertz.

But as a matter of record, I have suggested to you several years ago
that you learn the authorizations of the DX countries that you need, so
you'll at least know where to NOT look for them.

It will assuredly cut down on the number of contacts
your make, especially in a contest or pileup situation.

Hi! An out of band contest!!! You crack me up. Not even CQ Magazine
would go for that one!

You should also
bear in mind that nothing in the regulations under which you operate,
mandates that you do so.

Many things are not in the regulations. None-the-less, you should
abide by "Good Amateur Practice." Riley says it's enforceable, and
you're back in America now.

You are responsible for making sure that your
own signal is where it is supposed to be.

Indeed I am. But that completely misses the case in point, your case.

If any station I've ever
worked was where he was not supposed to be, he'd likely not be able to
show off a treasured QSL from a rare station which read the exact
frequency of operation (i.e. 50.115 MHz).

Fair enough. But many DXers merely put down the band. But you're not
many DXers. You have trouble enough being just one.

Additionally, you can check on the web or by using a callsign database,
to be certain that each domestic station you might contact is where he
or she is supposed to be under the terms of his or her license.

Again you evade the case in point. Your case. You didn't just work
hams outside their license class, you were working hams that were
hundreds of kilohertz outside their countries 6M authorization.

Finally, there is nothing in the regs which makes you responsible for my
station operation either here in the United States, in Tanzania or in
any other country.

If I know that you are operating out of band, you can rest assured that
I won't complete the circuit, and you won't be getting one of my QSL
cards.

I hope that clears things up for you.

Dave K8MN

I'm convinced more than ever that given the opportunity to work yet
more out of band Frenchmen, you'd go for it again.