RadioBanter - Windy Anderson's 11/14 Reply to Comments

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From: on Sat, Dec 3 2005 8:28 am
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From: on Dec 2, 5:33 pm
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From: on Tues, Nov 29 2005 3:38 am
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Sure there is - it's called wigwag.

No, those are called SEMAPHORE FLAGS.

No, they're not. Semaphore and wigwag are two different things.
Look it up.

Two dictionaries I have say "see 'semaphore'" under several
different definitions of "wigwag."

Wig-wag and sempahore are not the same thing.

Can you wigwag in morse?

Yes.

[no such thing]

You are mistaken, Len. As usual, you are resistant to new
information.

http://www.gordon.army.mil/ocos/Muse...GES/wigwag.gif

I've already worn the collar insignia of the United States Army
Signal Corps, a torch over two crossed signal flags.

The US Army also used wig wag signalling

http://www.gordon.army.mil/ocos/Muse...GES/wigwag.gif

but you don't seem to know about that.

You've never done that.
You can never do that.

I can never wear the insignia of the Signal Corps? You are
quite mistaken, Len.

Except for a few floating museum pieces, the US Navy stopped using
sail power about 100 years ago.

Go to the docking area at the U.S. Naval Academy or the U.S. Coast
Guard Academy. Are those "tall ships" illusions? No, they are
real.

Nobody said they aren't real. They're floating museum pieces.

You've already argued with Hans Brakob on that. You wound up
all wet.

How did I wind up "all wet", Len?

I went to Art Center for a year at their old campus on
3rd Street in Los Angeles. :-)

Did you flunk out? Or perhaps you just GAVE UP?

I changed my studies from illustration to engineering. Career
choice change.

In other words, you GAVE UP on illustration as a career after a year
of school. Tsk, tsk.

You do seem to flit about, Len, with all those different jobs and
activities...

I can't "give up" something I have a natural talent for.

"Talent"?

..that's
built-in, has been used in previous employment. I was accepted
by Art Center on the basis of submitted work that I sent them.

Yet after a year you GAVE UP.

Tsk. You are being HOSTILE again, trying to say I "flunked out"
or "gave up."

How is it being hostile? I'm pointing out that you GAVE UP on
illustration
as a career.

"Pasadena forensics could practice on what was left of you after saying
that."

What did you mean by that sentence?

Maybe they want to be on TV? You know, like "CSI" (the first one
from Las Vegas), "CSI: Miami," and "CSI: New York"? :-)

I don't think so.

All are popular shows about forensics and criminology. Then there's
"Bones" on the Fox network, the various "Law and Order" crime
dramas. Viewing audience likes that stuff.

Doesn't fit

Pasadena isn't far from the center of movie-TV production in
Los Angeles. Gosh, you could be on TV! :-)

Texts and old books seems to be where you get your "experience."

Well, you're wrong about that.

That MUST have been where you got all your "military expertise."

Nope. Guess again.

Oh, my, you'll have to tell all the illustrators everywhere that
their techniques are "dying!"

It's what you've told us about Morse Code, even though you're not
involved.

Sorry, I was VERY INVOLVED in illustration.

But not in Morse Code.

And you GAVE UP on both illustration as a career and learning Morse
Code at the very modest speed of 13 wpm.

I was VERY INVOLVED
in radio and electronics. Both for over a half century.

Past tense, I see.

Where are all the commercial morse code communications sites now?

Where are all the military morse code communications sites now?

Where are all the 100 wpm mechanical teleprinters now?

Where are all the big multitransmitter HF sites like ADA now?

Once there was nothing else besides morse code in radio
communications.

That ended about 1900 when Reginald Fessenden began transmitting
voice and music by radio.

Now all there is of that is on amateur bands.

Not true, Len. Have you not heard of KSM/KPH?

Tsk, you aren't "dying" but your time in Intensive Care Unit is
coming to a close...

?? I'm a lot healthier than you, Len.

"Pasadena forensics could practice on what was left of you after saying
that."

What did you mean by that?

You tell me... :-)

You were trying to threaten me physically. You've done that before,
Len.

Can you show any physics textbooks or courses that include
electronic design or analysis?

Yes.

Such as?

Tsk, tsk. I read Ben's biography entitled "Benjamin
Franklin - An American Life," by Walter Isaacson.

So?

It's a relatively recent biography, extensively researched,
takes an objective look at the life of Franklin. It does
not glorify him with gratuitous phrases but explains what
he did during his long lifetime...facts that were
referenced by historical documents.

Such as invent lightning protection systems - the first practical
electrical devices.

Franklin the scientist determined the nature of
lightning.

Franklin was hardly schooled. He had only HONORARY
degrees.

So he founded a great University that thrives today.

Franklin was a prosperous printer and a POLITICIAN.

Also a genius.

Money and power can do lots of things.

Not without direction.

His University flourishes today. Also the hospital he founded (first in
the USA),
his fire-protection societies, his free-library concepts, and much
more.

He also got current flow in the wrong direction...:-)

Nope, he was just ahead of his time. He described the flow of holes
rather than electrons.

It's good stuff. Our country was born right here in
Philadelphia.

Been there.

NADC to be exact, right? You weren't exactly begged to
stay there, were you, Len?

However, the center of United States government is in
the District of Columbia, not even in Pennsylvania.

That's a good thing! The District of Columbia was invented
so that the nation's capital would not be inside any state.

The nation's capital is nowhere near California, either...

You mean UNIFORM Code of Military Justice? :-)

Yep - not "universal" as you mistakenly wrote.

I've worn the UNIFORM of the United States Army. I've been
under the UNIFORM Code of Military Justice for four years.

Yet you messed up on what "UCMJ" meant.

You've done nothing like that.

How do you know for sure?

You can never do anything like that.

What does it matter?

I think you didn't really read and understand all the comments.

Doesn't bother me at all what you think of me now.

Apparently it does, because you get so defensive.

I do
have all 3,800 filings in WT Docket 05-235 on both hard
disk and CD archives.

Bully for you.

As far as I'm concerned, there was
NO "vote for 'CW'" as Speroni put his "analysis" of
NPRM 05-143 commentary in WT Docket 05-235.

There are none so blind as those who will not see. You can deny
all you want, but 55% of those individuals who expressed a
preference in comments on 05-235 supported at least some
Morse Code testing. Only 45% supported complete
removal of all Morse Code testing. That's a "vote for CW" to
anyone who thinks rationally.

Of course the FCC doesn't have to follow that "vote" and
probably won't. But to deny its existence is to deny reality.

The Commission
was notified on what I thought/analyzed in my Exhibit filing
of 25 Movember 2005 along with a final tally sheet of
the four categories of general comment opinions.

Yes, you spammed them with dozens and dozens of pages
of your verbiage. I feel sorry for the poor souls at FCC who
have to read all the worthless junk you send them, Len. ;-)

Yes, Len, we know you can't deal with facts and opinions different
from your own.

:-) You are really going the way of Dudly the Imposter.

I DEAL with them as they occur.

You deal by denial.

Yes. You're obviously very jealous. Green with envy. Your
behavior shows it.

The Hawaiian Morseman?

There you go, acting all jealous and envious because someone
did a better analysis than you did.

"Better?" :-)

Yes. Your analysis counts those who file multiple comments as if
they are separate opinions. As if the wordiest person's opinion
somehow counts more because they typed more.

If someone had written Reply Comments to every procodetest
comment, your system would have counted them as separate
opinions even though they had the same author. That's not a
valid way of analyzing opinion. In short, it stinks.

You don't have any Petitions before the Commission, Len. You're
too afraid to write one and have it DENIED.

Tsk. You are teetering on the edge of sanity. :-)

Wait...where is the MICCOLIS Petition? We don't see it!

Could it be that Miccolis is "afraid?"

You didn't recognize it when you saw it, Len.

More important, you didn't follow the rules on Reply Comments
back in 1999.

"Rules?" The "rules" are given by the Commission,

That's right.

And you didn't follow them back in 1999.

Reply Comments are only supposed to be a
reply to comments made by others - they are not supposed to
bring up new suggestions.

Show us that "regulation" or "law," Jimmie.

Look up the definition of "Reply Comments", Len.

If you wanted to suggest an age
requirement, the time to do that was during the Comment
period, not the Reply Comment period.

Show us that "regulation" or "law," Jimmie.

Look up the definition of "Reply Comments", Len.

You're just as guilty
of procedural mistakes as the folks who send in comments
long after the deadline.

Show us the "procedural regulations/rules/law" applying
to filings' CONTENT, Jimmie.

Look up the definition of "Reply Comments", Len.

Why ARE you so obsessed with putting down all who want the
code test eliminated?

Where have I done that?

In this newsgroup. "Google provides." :-)

Then show us a link to this alleged "putting down".

You will retain your full amateur rank-status-privileges
regardless of whether the code test goes away or stays.

It's not about those things at all, Len.

No? Then why are you so worried and agitated by it?

Code testing doesn't involve you at all.

Yes, it does. If the Amateur Radio Service is changed for the
worse, I am affected.

It's about what's good and bad for the Amateur Radio Service.

Well there we have it! The Lord High Commissioner of
Goodness has RULED on what is "good" and what is "bad!"

Anyone who comments to FCC is saying what is good and what is bad.

I see the code test as being a good thing for the Amateur Radio service.

Sorry, NOT strong enough. As self-appointed Lord High
whatever, you MUST state firmly and resolutely ALL that
everyone MUST do!

Why?

You are neither qualified nor authorized to operate an amateur radio
station,
Len.

How do you know? :-)

Because you're not licensed.

FCC says you're not qualified to operate an amateur radio station.

The FCC has "said" no such thing to me.

Yes, they have.

In a real document addressed to ME? :-)

Maybe in a telephone call? :-)

In the regulations.

My name isn't mentioned once in the five-volume bound set of Title
47 C.F.R. Not in any Part therein.

The ONLY place where my name appeared was on the Government Post
Office shippling label that sent me those five volumes.

Show us WHERE my name, with appropriate statement of
"unqualifications" appears in Title 47 C.F.R.

Your name is not in the FCC database of amateur radio licenses.
Therefore
you are not qualified.

Wow! Several months ago I was looking at the Burbank HRO store
station, even tweaked a transceiver dial to tune in a SSB signal
clearer! Hey, get the surveilance camera tapes! You might find
me on them doing that! Wowee! You can make an ARREST!

That's not "operating".

Define OPERATING. :-)

Being the control operator of an amateur radio station. You
are not qualified to do that - have never been qualified. I've
been qualified, and doing that, since 1967.

I have served in the military of the United States. Volunteering
during a war time. Taking an oath to defend the United States
and its Constitution with my life if needs be.

That's a brave act, Len. But it was more than a half-century ago.

Tsk. It's something you've NEVER done, Jimmie.

How do you know?

I decided it was time to serve my country and volunteered to do
so during a war time. You've done NOTHING like that at any time.

How do you know?

Besides, you seem to think that one brave act means all must defer
to your opinions and whims. Doesn't work that way.

I said you were afraid - and you are.

"Afraid of what?" :-)

People are afraid of all sorts of things.

You must have been AFRAID to risk your precious body in real
military service since you didn't volunteer. shrug

Suppose you had been born in 1954, Len.

Would you have volunteered to fight in Vietnam in 1972?

You were afraid to let your neighbors build two-story houses....

W R O N G .

(Cluck-cluck!)

NOT "afraid."

You were afraid of how the neighborhood would change.

MY neighbors did not want the development
started that would cut off our view...so much so that we
all formed an action committee and we presented our case to
the zoning commission in a regular meeting.

Just your neighbors? Or you too?

That VACANT land
(about 15 acres) was then UNdeveloped. The contractor won a
change of zoning from only Residential to Residential-with-
apartments...the existing neighbors lost that fight.

In other words, you and your neighbors wanted to stop other people
from building certain types of buildings on *their own land* - because
it would mess up your *view*.

The contractor went bankrupt, couldn't develop the land, sold
the land to another contractor.

So what?

THAT contractor built 44 homes
(average price $500,000 five years ago)

So they were worth more than your house....

after spending 9 months
of re-arranging the vacant land.

How does anyone "rearrange" land? With a bulldozer?

44 homes on 15 acres is about a third of an acre each.
Half a million each is a starter home, right?

Our (original 'neighbors')
views' were spoiled by those new homes.

So - you thought your "view" was more important than
the newcomers' property rights. You thought that those
15 acres should not be developed, even though you
didn't own them. You resisted changes that brought in
new people and more progress. You clung to the past
and tried to hold back the future.

And you failed.

My neighborhood was NOT "afraid."

Yes, you were. You feared the loss of your "views".

We took ACTION.

And you FAILED.

That is
recorded in the minutes of the City Zoning Commission's
meetings. Okay, we neighbors tried and lost. That's the
breaks in politics.

What I find most interesting is that you fought change, progress,
and newcomers. And you thought your views should count for
more than the wants and needs of those who owned the land.

What you've done is to RE-WRITE what was originally written in
here with some weird spin on "courage" and "fear" that YOU
invented, fabricated, LIED about.

What spin? What fabrication? What lies?

I simply point out that you and your neighbors feared and opposed
change in the neighborhood. That's the truth.

From: on Sun, Dec 4 2005 4:35 pm

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From: on Sat, Dec 3 2005 8:28 am
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From: on Dec 2, 5:33 pm
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From: on Tues, Nov 29 2005 3:38 am
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From: on Nov 27, 3:55 pm

Wig-wag and sempahore are not the same thing.

Can you wigwag in morse?

Yes.

[no such thing]

You are mistaken, Len. As usual, you are resistant to new
information.

"New" information? No. You did, indeed, provide a link
for OLD information that was made obsolete in ACTUAL USE
by the U.S. Army Signal Corps prior to the U.S.' entry
into World War One.

Note: I am familiar with Fort Gordon as the "home" of
the Signal Corps ever since it was known as Camp Gordon.
That is where I and other signalmen did our Basic Training
as soldiers.

http://www.gordon.army.mil/ocos/Muse...GES/wigwag.gif

For some more information on the HISTORY of the Signal
Corps, United States Army, go to:

http://www.gordon.army.mil/ocos/museum/

I've already worn the collar insignia of the United States Army
Signal Corps, a torch over two crossed signal flags.

The US Army also used wig wag signalling

Okay, they did up to 1912. ? This is 93 years later.

The U.S. Army ALSO used carrier pigeons and spark
transmitters for communications. That ended after
WW1.

The U.S. Army once used smoothbore muskets and sabers
for weaponry. That ended prior to WW1.

ONE-FLAG signaling ended in 1912...according to the
same museum source.

but you don't seem to know about that.

I know far more than you ever will about what the United States
Army Signal Corps has done in the last half century plus a lot
more. I was IN it, you were NOT.

I can never wear the insignia of the Signal Corps? You are
quite mistaken, Len.

Anyone can go purchase (or steal) some insignia and put it
on. The entertainment business has been allowed to do that
for a very long time...as COSTUMES. Play-acting. Dudly
the Imposter tries to get away with his impersonation of
"being a Marine."

Here's some more from Regimental Division, Office Chief of
Signal, United States Army Signal Center, Fort Gordon, GA:

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CROSSED FLAGS

"Crossed flags" have been used by the Signal Corps since
1864, when they were prescribed for wear on the uniform coat
by enlisted ment of the Signal Corps. In 1884, a burning
torch was added to the insignia and the present design
adopted on 1 July of that year. The flags and torch are
symbolic of signaling or communication. Two signal flags
crossed, dexter flag - the flag on the right, white with red
center, the sinister flag on the left, red with white center,
staffs of gold, with a flaming torch of gold color upright
at the center of crossed flags. Branch colors: Orange
trimmings and facings were approved for the Signal Service
in 1872. The white piping was added in 1902, to conform
to the custom which prevailed of having piping of a
different color for all except the line branches.

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To explain some terms: "Line" branches are those of the Army
directly involved with warfighting; i.e., infantry, artillery,
armor. Infantry uniform piping is, has been, light blue. If
memory serves, artillery had red piping. "Piping" was
principally the thin edge trimming on the soft cap (sometimes
called an "overseas cap" as well as a vulgar feminine name).
Branch COLOR is a heritage symbol, found on branch flags and,
in 1950-1960 used in an issued scarf that replaced the tie
for certain ceremonial functions. [I still have mine as a
memento]

The "crossed flags" have been a collar insignia for enlisted
signalmen for 121 years, and remains. Signal officers have
a similar collar insignia (on the lapels of coats and shirts
worn beneath the letters "U.S." in gold and with color added to
the flags. Date of adoption of that style depends on adoption
of the officer's uniform style that changed between WW1 and
WW2. Enlisted collar branch insignia has been all gold, no
other color, mounted on a disc of gold. Date of adoption of
that collar insignia style (to differentiate officers and
enlisted) unknown exactly but was done prior to WW2.

As a never-served civilian, you no doubt feel free to ridicule
the U.S. military, especially in areas of tradition, heritage,
heraldry, branch colors, and so forth. That is understood.
Having never been a part of an active military you would be
ignorant of the experience of being part of a fighting force
that was born during the "Spirit of '76."

Some other facts about the U.S. Army Signal Corps:

It is the birth-branch of the United States Air Force, having
issued the very first purchase of a heavier-than-air aircraft
in the military (for observation purposes). Note: The USAF
was once a part of the Army, the "Air Corps", but became a
separate service branch in 1948.

The ubiquitous superheterodyne receiver was born in the mind
of Major Edwin Armstrong while he was on duty with the United
States Army Signal Corps in Paris, 1918. The "superhet"
receiver has been made by the millions worldwide since then.

The first field use of balloons for observation were done
during the American Civil War, including the first "airborne"
telegraphy tried then between a lofted balloon and ground.
[that preceded the later massive lighter-than-air ship
effort of the United States Navy]

The first weather stations and their communications of
weather conditions was pioneered prior to the formation of
the "National Weather Service" that was absorbed by NOAA.

The first use of carrier pigeons on a large scale for
communications was done just prior to and during WW1.
Signal Corps developed a field-transportable pigeon coop
on a vehicle. Unfortunately, the pigeons being conscripts
did not want to cooperate fully and that was disbanded
after WW1.

The first handheld Transceiver ("handie-talkie") was the
brainchild of Galvin Manufacturing, Chicago, (legally
changed to Motorola after WW2) and the Fort Monmouth Signal
Office in 1940. Galvin designed, with Signal Corps'
enthusiastic support, the first useable backpack "walkie-
talkie" FM voice radio that saw its first baptism of fire
in the Italian campaign of 1943. [SCR-300 with its 18
tube radio the BC-1000]

The Signal Corps designed, and Galvin later made, the
first horse mobile radio that could be used by a cavalry-
man en ride ("in motion" for you non-equine humans).
The resulting "pogo stick" (for its guidon socket bottom
support pole) radio chest unit may have featured the first
use of a combined speaker-microphone; that combined
speaker-microphone is now a standard feature of public
safety manpack radios. Mounted cavalry was disbanded
during WW2 but those "pogo stick" radios remained in
service, seeing their baptism of fire on Guadalcanal,
man-carried in infantry units.

100 Watt semi-portable spark transmitters were used by
the Army Air Corps in France in 1917-1918, those lap-
held units designed by the Signal Corps. [as far as
can be determined, those were one-way transmissions, air
to ground only due to noise of open-cockpit aircraft]

The first use of regular communications satellite message
relay for military communications, Vietnam, late 1960s,
using a mobile commications van containing microwave
and multi-channel circuits, designed for the purpose by
the Signal Corps.

The first precision target acquisition and gun-tracking
radar, the SCR-584, a joint design by MIT Radiation Lab
and Signal Corps, transportable, saw service in Italy
and France during WW2. Signal Corps had already designed
and contracted out the radar that sighted the first
Japanese air attackers in Hawaii on December 7, 1941.
Signal Corps is the birthplace of the SCR-584 radar
replacement, the MA-1 fire-control system which featured
a Luneberg lens antenna. Radar set design at Fort
Monmouth was transferred to Artillery in the 1960s.

The very first moonbounce proved at Signal Corps
Engineering Laboratories (just outside Fort Monmouth)
in 1946. Proved that the moon can be a reflector of
radio waves. See "Project Diana" for more references.
That used a modified wartime radar set, including its
unmodified antenna. Those laboratories were visible
from the main road connecting Fort Monmouth with Red
Bank, NJ. [Coles, Evans, and Squire laboratories]

With the U.S. Navy, the U.S. Army provided for the
rebirth of cryptographic services in the 1930s. The
Army Signal Corps established a small agency headed
by William Friedman, a civilian, to organize an Army
cryptographic service for military intelligence
purposes. In cooperation with an equally-small unit
of the U.S. Navy (under Captain Stafford) they formed
the cryptologic nucleus for the entire U.S. government
prior to our entry into WW2. Machinists at the
Washington Navy Yard constructed a working prototype
of the Japanese "Red" and "Purple" crypto machine
work-alikes that were designed by the Army. Success
of this led to the USN victory at the Battle of Midway.
The combined service efforts resulted in a superior
"rotor" cryptographic machine that was never known to
be compromised until the physical capture of the USS
Pueblo intelligence ship. Cryptanalysts of both USA
and USN WW2 efforts later worked at the NSA (formed
officially after WW2). [for more references, see
the Fort Huachuca Military Intelligence Museum web
page...that includes some interesting bios of the
Friedmans and some pioneers in Army aircraft not
normally included in popular flying lore]

The Signal Office of the U.S. Army was the head of
the second-highest priority industry during WW2;
Production of quartz crystal units for all branches
and some allies (England, chiefly). Galvin Mfg in
Chicago was the civilian center of some 60 companies
producing a million units a month by the last three
years of WW2. The only other production program
having a higher priority then was the Manhattan
Project. Signal Corps was one of the contractor
backers to provide the first crystal growth processes
to replace small, irregular natural quartz. That
permitted much lower-cost crystal units to be used
in all electronics disciplines.

I'd like to say that the Signal Corps is responsible
for precision time-frequency sources useable over
military field environments, but that isn't strictly
true. Such is a multi-agency cooperative effort. The
USN began the GPSS with a project called NAVSTAR using
miniaturized atomic-resonance oscillators for a
precision time-frequency reference, beginning in 1970.
Theory and practical units were first done by NIST.
Improvements were done by the electronics industry.
Signal Corps concentrated on all-environment precision
quartz crystal oscillators that resulted in the
excellent frequency stability units required for the
successful SINCGARS family of jam-proof, secure
radios (quarter million R/Ts produced since 1987).
The head of IEEE Time-Frequency is (or was) John R.
Vig, one of the theory-and-practice heads at the
Central Electronics Command that was at Monmouth.
SINCGARS can check or update its precision internal
time base by connecting an AN/PSN-11 GPS receiver to
a front panel connector. True also for its Key Fill
equipment. Both got their baptism of fire in the
First Gulf War 1990-1991.

I'd like to say that the Signal Corps is responsible
for direct-select-frequency-synthesizer subsystems on
HF transceivers, especially for SSB AM transceivers,
but that would raise all sorts of hoo-haw between
Collins amateur radio fanatics and several electronics
industry companies, not to mention interservice
rivalry by real veterans of the military. The
military wasn't the first to pioneer SSB techniques
in radio, the civilian communications providers were.
USAF Strategic Air Command was the contracting agency
that led to single-channel SSB communications mini-
revolution on the amateur HF bands, resulting in SSB
AM Voice being the MOST popular mode on HF by amateurs.

USAF demands in frequency-hopping technology (and USN
in radar) led to secure communications and jam-proof
radar use. Refinements in that led to USA frequency-
hopping for field radios, extremely stable time bases
that could network frequency hoppers, the net holding
despite a hop rate of 10 carrier frequency changes
per second.

Who made vacuum tubes producible at a reasonable cost
in the USA? Look up Western Electric, the old
manufacturing arm of the Bell System (you know, the
telephone infrastructure giant that "fails during
every emergency"). Who invented the transistor? Two
scientists at Bell Labs (with help of Bill Shockley).
Signal Corps wasn't first there.

I could probably expand on all the preceding if I had
the time to do real research, provide a whole list of
end-notes and bibliography. The above I can write from
memory without looking up a thing. I was a REAL
signalman, a soldier serving in the Army of the United
States. I did REAL HF (and VHF and UHF and microwave)
communications in facilities that were real and large,
covering the entire globe long before comm sats were
aloft. Modern methods were used as well as those that
existed before WW2. I am proud of what I did and am
thankful that I can share in the heritage of the Signal
Corps both during and after my real service. I don't
have to pretend my remaining uniform sets are some
kind of "costume." When I wore it we were NOT
pretending anydamnthing.

You are welcome to take your wigwaging morse code
and shove it up your I/O port, sissy civilian.