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Frank Gilliland December 7th 05 10:04 PM

Not Qualified...For WHAT...?!?!?
 
On 7 Dec 2005 09:13:30 -0800, "Major Dud" wrote in
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Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 7 Dec 2005 06:15:20 -0800, wrote in
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Hey Dud -- did I forget to mention that I'm licensed as an Extra?


OK.



So you're taking my word that I'm a ham? How unlike you, Dud.


How does that change the fact that you were a twice disgraced,
lying, court-martialed, deceitful ex-Marine, Frankie?



Despite the derogative adjectives, the fact remains that I -was- a
Marine and you weren't.


Steve "Yellow Dog" Robeson, K4YZ



You never did explain why your first marriage failed. Did she bail
because of the debts you were ringing up on all those credit cards? Or
did she just get tired of competing with your mommy for attention?









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[email protected] December 8th 05 02:12 AM

Not Qualified...For WHAT...?!?!?
 
From: Frank Gilliland on Dec 7, 2:04 pm

On 7 Dec 2005 09:13:30 -0800, "Major Dud" wrote in
Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 7 Dec 2005 06:15:20 -0800, wrote in



Hey Dud -- did I forget to mention that I'm licensed as an Extra?


OK.


So you're taking my word that I'm a ham? How unlike you, Dud.


Heeheeheeheeheeheehee...Dud got trapped again!

The only licensed radio amateur with surname Gilliland in
Washington state is C. Frank Gilliland, N7VCF, Issaquah (in
King County). A Tech class, not Extra.

Few in the east know the northwest, but King County takes
in Seattle (in WEST Washington) and Issaquah is a suburb of
Seattle. Spokane, Washington, is in the EASTERN part, well
away from Puget Sound and Seattle.

It's almost too easy to entrap Dudly...! :-)


How does that change the fact that you were a twice disgraced,
lying, court-martialed, deceitful ex-Marine, Frankie?


Despite the derogative adjectives, the fact remains that I -was- a
Marine and you weren't.


...except in Dudly's imagination...where he is a bosom buddy
of Chesty. :-)


You never did explain why your first marriage failed. Did she bail
because of the debts you were ringing up on all those credit cards? Or
did she just get tired of competing with your mommy for attention?


We will never know the REAL story from Dudly. :-)

Maybe "Iitoi," legend of the Tohono O'odham people, can get
the Great Spirit to explain it to us? :-)

Dudly is farther and farther into the Maze of that legend
and hasn't been able to get out yet.




[email protected] December 8th 05 02:48 AM

Not Qualified
 

K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
KØHB wrote:
wrote
The
Army found that out during the Battle of the Bulge...where every
soldier, regardless of MOS, were suddenly IN "battle." Ever
since the U.S. Army has made it a point to continue basic battle
training long after soldiers have finished basic training.

And your point is?

All sorts of people in all sorts of jobs face danger every day, Len.

The electric wires don't put themselves up, and when a storm knocks
out the power, the crews don't get to wait for a sunny day to fix them.


Jim,

Lens point is that every serviceman and servicewoman in uniform serves with the
understanding that their very life is pledged, at the very real risk of armed
conflict, to serve their fellow man, commonly for material rewards less than
that enjoyed by an Assistant Shift Manager at your local Burger King.


I realize that, Hans, and I honor that pledge and that service. I
apologize if anyone was offended. That was not my intent.

But Len tries to make it sound like no one other than military service
ever faces any danger in their job.

In the past (and probably in the future) Len and I have found all sorts of
reasons to disagree, but on this issue I come down four-square on hisside.
Comparing that pledge which Len, Brian, and several other here took, to the
risks "suffered" by an electric company linemen or a construction worker is mean
spirited and unbecoming.


I did not mean to sound that way. Again, if it sounded that way, I
apologize.


Jim, if you felt an "apology" was warranted, then bravo for you.


No bravos needed, Steve.

The point I was making is that military service people aren't the only
ones
with potentially dangerous jobs, nor a commitment to do what is
necessary
at great risk to themselves. It was not meant in any way to denigrate,
deny
or minimize the commitment and sacrifices made by our military - past,
present
and future.

But what I was trying to say could have been written a *lot* better
than I wrote it.

However if you get into the habit of "apologizing" everytime
someone doesn't like your "tone" or how it MIGHT sound, then you just
spend your whole life apologizing.


In my experience, Hans/K0HB does not offend easily, nor ask for
apologies
lightly. That he was offended by what I wrote proved to me that my post
wasn't
very well written, since my goal was *not* to offend him!

Spending your life with your tail between your legs is no way to
live.


I don't consider anything I've written here to be "my tail between my
legs". Just the
opposite.

73 de Jim, N2EY


[email protected] December 8th 05 03:06 AM

Not Qualified...For WHAT...?!?!?
 
From: Frank Gilliland on Dec 7, 2:04 pm

On 7 Dec 2005 09:13:30 -0800, "Major Dud" wrote in
Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 7 Dec 2005 06:15:20 -0800, wrote in



Hey Dud -- did I forget to mention that I'm licensed as an Extra?


OK.


So you're taking my word that I'm a ham? How unlike you, Dud.


Heeheeheeheeheeheehee...Dud got trapped again!

The only licensed radio amateur with surname Gilliland in
Washington state is C. Frank Gilliland, N7VCF, Issaquah (in
King County). A Tech class, not Extra.

Few in the east know the northwest, but King County takes
in Seattle (in WEST Washington) and Issaquah is a suburb of
Seattle. Spokane, Washington, is in the EASTERN part, well
away from Puget Sound and Seattle.

It's almost too easy to entrap Dudly...! :-)


How does that change the fact that you were a twice disgraced,
lying, court-martialed, deceitful ex-Marine, Frankie?


Despite the derogative adjectives, the fact remains that I -was- a
Marine and you weren't.


...except in Dudly's imagination...where he is a bosom buddy
of Chesty. :-)


You never did explain why your first marriage failed. Did she bail
because of the debts you were ringing up on all those credit cards? Or
did she just get tired of competing with your mommy for attention?


We will never know the REAL story from Dudly. :-)

Maybe "Iitoi," legend of the Tohono O'odham people, can get
the Great Spirit to explain it to us? :-)

Dudly is farther and farther into the Maze of that legend
and hasn't been able to get out yet.




Frank Gilliland December 8th 05 03:38 AM

Not Qualified...For WHAT...?!?!?
 
On 7 Dec 2005 18:12:36 -0800, wrote in
.com:

From: Frank Gilliland on Dec 7, 2:04 pm

On 7 Dec 2005 09:13:30 -0800, "Major Dud" wrote in
Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 7 Dec 2005 06:15:20 -0800, wrote in



Hey Dud -- did I forget to mention that I'm licensed as an Extra?


OK.


So you're taking my word that I'm a ham? How unlike you, Dud.


Heeheeheeheeheeheehee...Dud got trapped again!

The only licensed radio amateur with surname Gilliland in
Washington state is C. Frank Gilliland, N7VCF, Issaquah (in
King County). A Tech class, not Extra.

Few in the east know the northwest, but King County takes
in Seattle (in WEST Washington) and Issaquah is a suburb of
Seattle. Spokane, Washington, is in the EASTERN part, well
away from Puget Sound and Seattle.



WELL away from the warm and soggy side of the state. We be friggin
cold here lately -- dropped to -4 last night. It ain't Minnesota but
it's cold enough for me.

But we did make national news today:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...-SearchStories


It's almost too easy to entrap Dudly...! :-)



Yeah.... how do you keep a Dudly in suspense?







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Mark Morgan December 8th 05 04:00 AM

Not Qualified...For WHAT...?!?!?
 
On 7 Dec 2005 07:30:12 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:


wrote:
From: K0HB on Dec 6, 7:10 pm


It is NOT a "game." Such an impersonation of being military
is punishable and heaps disgrace on the service affected.


And you're more than welcome to file a "complaint" with the USMC
and see what results from it, Lennie...


gee when I say something you call me paranoid (not sure sure why)

not you are resoting to it

In the mean time, we'll just go over some of those "..threat of
the Bear" and "...incomming artillery" stories of YOURS...

Steve, K4YZ


everyone should be advised that The following person
has been advocating the abuse of elders

he may also be making flase reports of abusing other in order to attak and cow his foes
he also shows signs of being dangerously unstable

STEVEN J ROBESON
151 12TH AVE NW
WINCHESTER TN 37398
931-967-6282


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Mark Morgan December 8th 05 04:01 AM

Not Qualified...For WHAT...?!?!?
 
On 7 Dec 2005 09:13:30 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:


Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 7 Dec 2005 06:15:20 -0800, wrote in
.com:


Hey Dud -- did I forget to mention that I'm licensed as an Extra?


OK.

How does that change the fact that you were a twice disgraced,
lying, court-martialed, deceitful ex-Marine, Frankie?


anything but name calling stevie

we already know you views on the subject

Steve, K4YZ


everyone should be advised that The following person
has been advocating the abuse of elders

he may also be making flase reports of abusing other in order to attak and cow his foes
he also shows signs of being dangerously unstable

STEVEN J ROBESON
151 12TH AVE NW
WINCHESTER TN 37398
931-967-6282


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[email protected] December 8th 05 05:21 PM

Not Qualified...For WHAT...?!?!?
 
From: Frank Gilliland on Dec 7, 7:38 pm

On 7 Dec 2005 18:12:36 -0800, wrote in



Yeah.... how do you keep a Dudly in suspense?


Take away his belt. :-)





an Old friend December 8th 05 06:03 PM

Not Qualified...For WHAT...?!?!?
 

wrote:
From: Frank Gilliland on Dec 7, 7:38 pm

On 7 Dec 2005 18:12:36 -0800, wrote in



Yeah.... how do you keep a Dudly in suspense?


Take away his belt. :-)


a rope would do a better job but youd have to throw it away afterward





[email protected] December 9th 05 12:45 AM

More Real Estate Follies
 
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
wrote:

The neighborhood organization was against the ZONING change
from "R" (pure residential) to "R1" (residences plus
aparments). The original plan was for "senior citizen
apartments" which we neighbors did not like.


Why not? You're a senior citizen ;-)


He's a citzen.

There's not a whole lot "senior" about him.


No, Steve, Len is definitely a senior citizen. He's way past retirement
age.

And "forcing" Lennie to live near other's his age would be like
"forcing" him to get an Amateur Radio license...It might "force" him to
realize that he is not the Alpha and Omega of his realm.


Nobody's "forcing" Len to do any of those things. He's free to move if
he doesn't like how the neighborhood has changed.

My point about the whole zoning thing is *not* that Len or his
neighbors
did anything "wrong". The point is that they resisted a change that
others
wanted, even though the people who wanted it told them it was
"progress"
and would be a good thing for the future.

Yet Len heaps abuse on those who resist a change in the Amateur Radio
Service rules, even though the people who want the change say
it is "progress" and will be a good thing for the future.

As for the claim that those of us with licenses aren't affected by
those
changes in any significant way, note that those who already owned
houses in Sun City aren't really affected by the zoning change of R to
R1
in any really significant way.

Of course Len and his neighbors could have bought the land from the
failed developer and thus protected themselves from future development.

Let's see...if the houses cost a half million, the land for each house
might
be worth a hundred thousand. That's only 4.4 million for 44 houses. Say
5 million with all the costs. Divided among how many neighbors?

The rest is easy:

1) The neighbors pitch in and buy the land, to be held by a corporation
formed for the purpose.
2) Developers are invited to submit proposals for development.
3) When a developer comes up with a proposal that meets all the
neighbors'
requirements, that developer is allowed to proceed, subject to a tight
contract
that only turns over title to the land when all conditions are met.
4) Profit!

Yes, a two-
story house or apartment would block my VIEW that I enjoyed
for over 30 years here.


So you think your "right" to a VIEW is more important than
people having a place to live....


So...We get them to raise a privacy wall around the new buildings
and let the mural artists go to work...Then Lennie can have whatever
"view", however myopic, he wants. Maybe one with no antennas and no
faces over 40?


No mirrors?



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