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November 19th 05, 05:23 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy

wrote:

Hello? Can we say Davie is also pompous and arrogant?

You just did, Len.

Nope. Extra Morsemen are allowed any kind of personal insult
against others while all NCTA have to be "kind," "gracious,"
and "civil" to them. :-)

Actually, it's the other way around.

Using my RIGHTS as a citizen.

As are all of us who filed comments.

Tsk, tsk, Extra Morsemen want
NCTAs to abrogate their citizenship rights. Not good.

Also not true.

Yep, as Hans Brakob has pointed out on a number of occasions, Len is the
organ grinder; you are the red-hatted monkey.

Hans the Dump Huck caller?

Once more, Extra Morsemen think they have civility immunity.

I guess phrases like "shut the hell up, you little USMC feldwebel" are
Len's idea of civility.

I'm only retired from REGULAR HOURS. :-)

So you're irregular, huh?

Just finished a contract
job trying to find a better way to protect against tin dendrites
in consumer-grade PCBs made with lead-free solder. We found a
slightly-better way that had already been done, but no cheap way,
sad to say.

In other words, you FAILED, Len....

In case anyone has been on the Outer Planets in the past decade,
the Reduction of Hazardous Substances (RoHS) is THE thing in
electronics production now.

We know, Len.

Problem is, without the lead in
conventional solder, tin will grow tiny, tiny "whiskers" (called
tin dendrites) that can short out circuit traces.

Yep.

Happens long
after production soldering. Can't use a simple meter like the
old standard Simpson 260...too much ohmmeter current...blows
open the dendrite and desposits it back on the traces.

Awww....

You're missing the bigger problem.

The reason for all the concern with hazardous substances in electronics
is because of their effect on the waste stream. "Modern" consumer
electronics are usually not designed to be easily or economically
repairable, so if something fails it is usually replaced rather than
repaired. Worse, the rapid changes in technology have resulted in a
large volume of working-but-outdated electronics (mostly computers)
being discarded rather than recycling.

Rather than trying to recycle and reuse, the regulators are trying to
stop the problem at the source. A bad solution, but you'd think the
PROFESSIONALS would have seen that one coming....

November 19th 05, 03:22 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy

wrote:
wrote:

Hello? Can we say Davie is also pompous and arrogant?

You just did, Len.

I third that motion.

Nope. Extra Morsemen are allowed any kind of personal insult
against others while all NCTA have to be "kind," "gracious,"
and "civil" to them. :-)

Actually, it's the other way around.

I see it differently.

Using my RIGHTS as a citizen.

As are all of us who filed comments.

So what's your problem?

Tsk, tsk, Extra Morsemen want
NCTAs to abrogate their citizenship rights. Not good.

Also not true.

So what's your problem?

Yep, as Hans Brakob has pointed out on a number of occasions, Len is the
organ grinder; you are the red-hatted monkey.

Hans the Dump Huck caller?

Once more, Extra Morsemen think they have civility immunity.

I guess phrases like "shut the hell up, you little USMC feldwebel" are
Len's idea of civility.

I guess calling people the phonetic equivalent of "Dumb ****" meets
with your aproval?

I'm only retired from REGULAR HOURS. :-)

So you're irregular, huh?

Jim making an insult?

Just finished a contract
job trying to find a better way to protect against tin dendrites
in consumer-grade PCBs made with lead-free solder. We found a
slightly-better way that had already been done, but no cheap way,
sad to say.

In other words, you FAILED, Len....

RoHS failed humanity.

In case anyone has been on the Outer Planets in the past decade,
the Reduction of Hazardous Substances (RoHS) is THE thing in
electronics production now.

We know, Len.

Multiple personality disorder "we," or papal "we," or royal "we?"

Problem is, without the lead in
conventional solder, tin will grow tiny, tiny "whiskers" (called
tin dendrites) that can short out circuit traces.

Yep.

Happens long
after production soldering. Can't use a simple meter like the
old standard Simpson 260...too much ohmmeter current...blows
open the dendrite and desposits it back on the traces.

Awww....

You're missing the bigger problem.

The reason for all the concern with hazardous substances in electronics
is because of their effect on the waste stream. "Modern" consumer
electronics are usually not designed to be easily or economically
repairable, so if something fails it is usually replaced rather than
repaired. Worse, the rapid changes in technology have resulted in a
large volume of working-but-outdated electronics (mostly computers)
being discarded rather than recycling.

Rather than trying to recycle and reuse, the regulators are trying to
stop the problem at the source. A bad solution, but you'd think the
PROFESSIONALS would have seen that one coming....

Regulators are not "PROFESSIONALS." They know nothing of the
environment nor electronics. And I've never seen Jim testifying on
CSPAN. Serves in other ways.

November 20th 05, 12:48 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy

From: on Sat 19 Nov 2005 06:22

wrote:
wrote:

Hello? Can we say Davie is also pompous and arrogant?

You just did, Len.

I third that motion.

Motion carried!

Nope. Extra Morsemen are allowed any kind of personal insult
against others while all NCTA have to be "kind," "gracious,"
and "civil" to them. :-)

Actually, it's the other way around.

I see it differently.

Careful, Brian, Sister Nun of the Above is ready to spank
your knuckles with her M-1 Ruler! She's locking and loading!

Using my RIGHTS as a citizen.

As are all of us who filed comments.

So what's your problem?

Nobody adores the Greatness that is Jimmie?

Tsk, tsk, Extra Morsemen want
NCTAs to abrogate their citizenship rights. Not good.

Also not true.

So what's your problem?

Nobody obeys his Greatness...

Yep, as Hans Brakob has pointed out on a number of occasions, Len is the
organ grinder; you are the red-hatted monkey.

Hans the Dump Huck caller?

Once more, Extra Morsemen think they have civility immunity.

I guess phrases like "shut the hell up, you little USMC feldwebel" are
Len's idea of civility.

I guess calling people the phonetic equivalent of "Dumb ****" meets
with your aproval?

It does, also you being called a "red-hatted monkey" and the
Imposter "signing off" with "Putz."

It's a one-sided thing with the big brothers of hammurika. Learn
code or die!

I'm only retired from REGULAR HOURS. :-)

So you're irregular, huh?

Jim making an insult?

Jimmie be trying out as stand-up comic. Ha. Ha. Ha.

Mitzi Shore won't be selling tickets for his performance at
the Comedy Store.

Just finished a contract
job trying to find a better way to protect against tin dendrites
in consumer-grade PCBs made with lead-free solder. We found a
slightly-better way that had already been done, but no cheap way,
sad to say.

In other words, you FAILED, Len....

RoHS failed humanity.

Tsk, Jimmie not know that aerospace and medical electronics
are exempt from RoHS insofar as lead-free soldering is
concerned.

Jimmie used lead-bearing solder in his "famous" Southgate
Type 7 built in 1990s. It was state-of-the-art using tubes.
No tin whiskers in HIS kludge, nossir! [has Jimmie started
shaving yet? he'd better get the lead out...]

In case anyone has been on the Outer Planets in the past decade,
the Reduction of Hazardous Substances (RoHS) is THE thing in
electronics production now.

We know, Len.

Multiple personality disorder "we," or papal "we," or royal "we?"

Prolly his we-we. He and Davie like to talk about johnsons.

Rather than trying to recycle and reuse, the regulators are trying to
stop the problem at the source. A bad solution, but you'd think the
PROFESSIONALS would have seen that one coming....

Regulators are not "PROFESSIONALS." They know nothing of the
environment nor electronics. And I've never seen Jim testifying on
CSPAN. Serves in other ways.

I think Jimmie actually works as a newsgroup correspondent,
paid for by a secret organization trying to make all of ham
radio into some Shaker cult frozen in the past. Puritans who
gave up sex and money and anything that was invented in the
past century. Sort of Amish on steroids.

Jimmie decries the very "professionals" that he claims to
belong to! To bad those "professionals" didn't see Jimmie
coming! [maybe they did...anyone check to see if his bath-
room door was open?]

I'm so glad to hear Jimmie is "serving." What's on the menu?

Does his ham taste like chicken?

As the paleontologist said, "Bone apetit!"

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