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Not much is known about Jim, except the usual liberal disdain for the
US military and military members.


"usual liberal disdain"?

Let's see....some well known "liberals"....

There's president Jimmy Carter, who graduated from the US Naval Academy
and served in the Navy on submarines. He also won the Nobel Peace
Prize, for being instrumental in the only long-term peace agreement in
the modern Middle East (the Camp David accords).

Or president John F. Kennedy, who served in the Navy in WW2. He was
awarded the Navy and Marine Corps medal for his leadership on the last
patrol of PT 109.

George McGovern was in the USAAF (15th Air Force) in WW2, flying 35
missions in B-24 bombers over North Africa and Italy. He was awarded
the Distinguished Flying Cross.

Vice president Al Gore enlisted in the Army and served in Vietnam
during that conflict, refusing a place in the Tennessee National Guard.


John Kerry served in the US Navy, volunteering for Vietnam duty. He was
awarded three Purple Heart medals, a Silver Star and a Bronze Star.
After his discharge from the military, he opposed the Vietnam War,
having actually been there.

President Franklin Delano Roosevelt never served in any military,
though he was appointed Assistant Secretary of the Navy. He led the USA
out of the Depression and through almost all of WW2. His "New Deal" was
considered rather liberal in its time....

"usual liberal disdain"?


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Dave Heil wrote:
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I'm sorry if you were insulted, Hans - that was not my intent.
Tsk, you were trying to insult me, not Hans.
I wasn't *trying* to insult anyone, Len.
I wonder what you would have said if you were actually "trying?"

Equating military service with welfare is about all I can take.
I'm not "taking" any of it.

Jimmie can go over to his nearest military recruitment station
and repeat his "subsidy" crack to any military person in there.

After that, the "fourth morseketeer" would be absent from RRAP.



I disagree.

I think your average service person knows that their is a large segment
of US society that looks down on them. But they are intelligent enough
to know just how wrong that segment of society is.


You're weaving another marvelous tale out of whole cloth. Who is it you
believe to be looking down on military service members, Brian?

The servicemen and
women stand guard without thought to their popularity.


I stood guard in basic training. I was too busy working or sleeping to
stand guard during the remainder of my four years. I never entered any
popularity contests.


And so you think very little of your military service. Welp, at least
you served.

In other words, Jim would be perfectly safe in any recruiter's office,
though his visit might be short. Unless he wound up in Robesin's dads
recruiter office...


I noted Len's silly threat, made on behalf of others. You know and I
know and even Len knows that such a thing would never happen.
Lamebrains are not chosen as recruiters. Any recruiter who acted in
such a manner would not only not be a recruiter for very long, he'd be
in the slammer. All that is beside the point.


I guess you didn't hear about the recruiting scandal where some
recruiters were accepting personal favors for recruiting hookers.

Jim hasn't made any
disparaging remarks directed at the military and I doubt he spends a lot
of time in or near recruiting offices. We've just been treated to more
of Len's (not very ably assisted by you) diversionary mumbo-jumbo.

Dave K8MN


I guess 6M has closed to France?

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Dave Heil wrote:
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Public transportation is NEVER sulf-sustaining, ALWAY subsidized.


Interesting. I've NEVER heard of a subsidized taxi company. Is
Greyhound subsidized too? Did you figure this out all by your "sulf"?


It depends on what is considered "public" transportation.

Taxi companies and Greyhound are private enterprises, AFAIK. While they
do not receive direct money from the government, their business is
supported/facilitated by the government's use of tax money to build and
maintain roads, bridges, tunnels, etc.

Most forms of transportation receive or have received some form of
government support. Airlines don't build airports, trucking companies
don't build roads, shipping companies don't dredge harbors, etc. Yes,
their taxes and user fees help pay for those things, but those user
fees and taxes are on a pay-as-you-go basis, and rarely pay for the
entire cost.

This isn't a new thing - the Erie Canal wasn't built by private
enterprise, and the construction of the transcontinental railroad was
government funded - though the railroads paid back the construction
cost many times over in the form of real estate and other taxes.

To quote Webster (New Collegiate Dictionary):

"a grant by a government to a private person or comapny to assist an
enterprise *deemed advantageous to the public*" (emphasis added)

73 de Jim, N2EY

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Not much is known about Jim, except the usual liberal disdain for the
US military and military members.


"usual liberal disdain"?

Let's see....some well known "liberals"....

There's president Jimmy Carter, who graduated from the US Naval Academy
and served in the Navy on submarines. He also won the Nobel Peace
Prize, for being instrumental in the only long-term peace agreement in
the modern Middle East (the Camp David accords).


I recall no Middle East Peace in modern times.

Or president John F. Kennedy, who served in the Navy in WW2. He was
awarded the Navy and Marine Corps medal for his leadership on the last
patrol of PT 109.


Indeed he was.

George McGovern was in the USAAF (15th Air Force) in WW2, flying 35
missions in B-24 bombers over North Africa and Italy. He was awarded
the Distinguished Flying Cross.


A little before my time.

Vice president Al Gore enlisted in the Army and served in Vietnam
during that conflict, refusing a place in the Tennessee National Guard.


Odd. Do most people get to "refuse a place" in their state's National
Guard?

I don't recall having that "opportunity." Ditto my brother.

John Kerry served in the US Navy, volunteering for Vietnam duty. He was
awarded three Purple Heart medals, a Silver Star and a Bronze Star.
After his discharge from the military, he opposed the Vietnam War,
having actually been there.


Now there's a perfect example of disdain for his fellow military
members.

President Franklin Delano Roosevelt never served in any military,


Correct. He had polio and was unfit for military service.

though he was appointed Assistant Secretary of the Navy.


Our military is civilian led. Sometimes led well, sometimes not.

He led the USA
out of the Depression and through almost all of WW2.


He had a priori knowledge of Pearl Harbor and did nothing. That just
might be considered disdain for the military and military members.

His "New Deal" was
considered rather liberal in its time....


Extremely liberal. It was his handling of the Bonus Marchers, veterans
of WW 1, that needed their promised pensions that might also be
considered disdain for the military and military members.

"usual liberal disdain"?


Yup.



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wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
KHB wrote:
wrote:
I'm sorry if you were insulted, Hans - that was not my intent.
Tsk, you were trying to insult me, not Hans.
I wasn't *trying* to insult anyone, Len.
I wonder what you would have said if you were actually "trying?"

Equating military service with welfare is about all I can take.
I'm not "taking" any of it.

Jimmie can go over to his nearest military recruitment station
and repeat his "subsidy" crack to any military person in there.

After that, the "fourth morseketeer" would be absent from RRAP.


I disagree.

I think your average service person knows that their is a large segment
of US society that looks down on them. But they are intelligent enough
to know just how wrong that segment of society is.

You're weaving another marvelous tale out of whole cloth. Who is it you
believe to be looking down on military service members, Brian?

The servicemen and
women stand guard without thought to their popularity.

I stood guard in basic training. I was too busy working or sleeping to
stand guard during the remainder of my four years. I never entered any
popularity contests.


And so you think very little of your military service.


Where did I write that I think little of my military service? I wrote
that I only stood guard in basic training and that never entered any
popularity contests. Are you busy trying to read between the lines again?

Welp, at least
you served.


I don't recall asking for the Brian Burke stamp of approval--or needing it.

In other words, Jim would be perfectly safe in any recruiter's office,
though his visit might be short. Unless he wound up in Robesin's dads
recruiter office...


I noted Len's silly threat, made on behalf of others. You know and I
know and even Len knows that such a thing would never happen.
Lamebrains are not chosen as recruiters. Any recruiter who acted in
such a manner would not only not be a recruiter for very long, he'd be
in the slammer. All that is beside the point.


I guess you didn't hear about the recruiting scandal where some
recruiters were accepting personal favors for recruiting hookers.


What happened to them? Are they still recruiters?

Jim hasn't made any
disparaging remarks directed at the military and I doubt he spends a lot
of time in or near recruiting offices. We've just been treated to more
of Len's (not very ably assisted by you) diversionary mumbo-jumbo.


I guess 6M has closed to France?


....and that makes recruiters touchy?

Dave K8MN

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Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
KHB wrote:
wrote:
I'm sorry if you were insulted, Hans - that was not my intent.
Tsk, you were trying to insult me, not Hans.
I wasn't *trying* to insult anyone, Len.
I wonder what you would have said if you were actually "trying?"

Equating military service with welfare is about all I can take.
I'm not "taking" any of it.

Jimmie can go over to his nearest military recruitment station
and repeat his "subsidy" crack to any military person in there.

After that, the "fourth morseketeer" would be absent from RRAP.



I disagree.

I think your average service person knows that their is a large segment
of US society that looks down on them. But they are intelligent enough
to know just how wrong that segment of society is.
You're weaving another marvelous tale out of whole cloth. Who is it you
believe to be looking down on military service members, Brian?

The servicemen and
women stand guard without thought to their popularity.


I stood guard in basic training. I was too busy working or sleeping to
stand guard during the remainder of my four years. I never entered any
popularity contests.


And so you think very little of your military service.


Where did I write that I think little of my military service? I wrote
that I only stood guard in basic training and that never entered any
popularity contests. Are you busy trying to read between the lines again?


You wrote that you got out of the service because they wouldn't let you
play hobby radio in vietnam.

Now you write that you were too busy to stand guard except during basic
training. Somebody else would have to do it.

Welp, at least
you served.


I don't recall asking for the Brian Burke stamp of approval--or needing it.


And why would you? According to you, you've led a perfect life.

In other words, Jim would be perfectly safe in any recruiter's office,
though his visit might be short. Unless he wound up in Robesin's dads
recruiter office...


I noted Len's silly threat, made on behalf of others. You know and I
know and even Len knows that such a thing would never happen.
Lamebrains are not chosen as recruiters. Any recruiter who acted in
such a manner would not only not be a recruiter for very long, he'd be
in the slammer. All that is beside the point.


I guess you didn't hear about the recruiting scandal where some
recruiters were accepting personal favors for recruiting hookers.


What happened to them? Are they still recruiters?

Jim hasn't made any
disparaging remarks directed at the military and I doubt he spends a lot
of time in or near recruiting offices. We've just been treated to more
of Len's (not very ably assisted by you) diversionary mumbo-jumbo.


I guess 6M has closed to France?


...and that makes recruiters touchy?

Dave K8MN


Makes Dave, the World's Greatest DXer, touchy for having worked out of
band Frenchmen on 6M.

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