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"Usual Liberal Disdain?"
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Dave Heil wrote: wrote: There's a parallel in amateur radio recruiting. From the ARRL down, the higher-ups love to look down on aspirants as dummies in radio...as if their lofty elite positions made them "expert." These self-proclaimed gods of radio then wonder why there isn't more participation and - especially - why there's so little love for their self-righteous precious, noble, best-of-all-possible-modes (in their minds), radiotelegraphy. I move Best of Luck. Don't forget that the job's not finished until the paper work is done. that we amend our military regulations so that each recruit to the enlisted ranks would enter military service at the E-9 grade. This would result in more participation by our citizenry and would prevent harm to anyone's self-esteem. We could also do away with military technical schools and the necessity for passing any exam which the new recruit might view as hazing. Calling any recruit a "dummy" would be banned. Dave K8MN It looks like the World's Greatest DXer can't tell the diff between military service and a cool hobby. |
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"Guts"
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote: Public transportation is NEVER sulf-sustaining, ALWAY subsidized. Interesting. I've NEVER heard of a subsidized taxi company. Is Greyhound subsidized too? Did you figure this out all by your "sulf"? It depends on what is considered "public" transportation. Taxi companies and Greyhound are private enterprises, AFAIK. While they do not receive direct money from the government, their business is supported/facilitated by the government's use of tax money to build and maintain roads, bridges, tunnels, etc. Most forms of transportation receive or have received some form of government support. Airlines don't build airports, trucking companies don't build roads, shipping companies don't dredge harbors, etc. Yes, their taxes and user fees help pay for those things, but those user fees and taxes are on a pay-as-you-go basis, and rarely pay for the entire cost. This isn't a new thing - the Erie Canal wasn't built by private enterprise, and the construction of the transcontinental railroad was government funded - though the railroads paid back the construction cost many times over in the form of real estate and other taxes. To quote Webster (New Collegiate Dictionary): "a grant by a government to a private person or comapny to assist an enterprise *deemed advantageous to the public*" (emphasis added) 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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"Usual Liberal Disdain?"
wrote: wrote: Not much is known about Jim, except the usual liberal disdain for the US military and military members. "usual liberal disdain"? Let's see....some well known "liberals".... There's president Jimmy Carter, who graduated from the US Naval Academy and served in the Navy on submarines. He also won the Nobel Peace Prize, for being instrumental in the only long-term peace agreement in the modern Middle East (the Camp David accords). I recall no Middle East Peace in modern times. Or president John F. Kennedy, who served in the Navy in WW2. He was awarded the Navy and Marine Corps medal for his leadership on the last patrol of PT 109. Indeed he was. George McGovern was in the USAAF (15th Air Force) in WW2, flying 35 missions in B-24 bombers over North Africa and Italy. He was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross. A little before my time. Vice president Al Gore enlisted in the Army and served in Vietnam during that conflict, refusing a place in the Tennessee National Guard. Odd. Do most people get to "refuse a place" in their state's National Guard? I don't recall having that "opportunity." Ditto my brother. John Kerry served in the US Navy, volunteering for Vietnam duty. He was awarded three Purple Heart medals, a Silver Star and a Bronze Star. After his discharge from the military, he opposed the Vietnam War, having actually been there. Now there's a perfect example of disdain for his fellow military members. President Franklin Delano Roosevelt never served in any military, Correct. He had polio and was unfit for military service. though he was appointed Assistant Secretary of the Navy. Our military is civilian led. Sometimes led well, sometimes not. He led the USA out of the Depression and through almost all of WW2. He had a priori knowledge of Pearl Harbor and did nothing. That just might be considered disdain for the military and military members. His "New Deal" was considered rather liberal in its time.... Extremely liberal. It was his handling of the Bonus Marchers, veterans of WW 1, that needed their promised pensions that might also be considered disdain for the military and military members. "usual liberal disdain"? Yup. |
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Dave Heil wrote: wrote: Public transportation is NEVER sulf-sustaining, ALWAY subsidized. Interesting. I've NEVER heard of a subsidized taxi company. Is Greyhound subsidized too? Did you figure this out all by your "sulf"? Dave K8MN Not vewy Innewesting at all. What are you now--Elmer Fudd? Yellow Cab and Greyhound are for profit corporations. Of course they are. They're still public transportation. Your error is noted. Amtrak, Metropolitan Transit Authority (NYC), and Chicago Transit Authority are public and are subsidized. I've just given you a couple of examples which are public and not subsidized. I'd have to get up pretty late in the morning to be corrected by the World's Greatest DXer. When you see him, give him my regards. Dave K8MN |
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Dave Heil wrote: wrote: wrote: wrote: wrote: wrote: wrote: KØHB wrote: wrote: I'm sorry if you were insulted, Hans - that was not my intent. Tsk, you were trying to insult me, not Hans. I wasn't *trying* to insult anyone, Len. I wonder what you would have said if you were actually "trying?" Equating military service with welfare is about all I can take. I'm not "taking" any of it. Jimmie can go over to his nearest military recruitment station and repeat his "subsidy" crack to any military person in there. After that, the "fourth morseketeer" would be absent from RRAP. I disagree. I think your average service person knows that their is a large segment of US society that looks down on them. But they are intelligent enough to know just how wrong that segment of society is. You're weaving another marvelous tale out of whole cloth. Who is it you believe to be looking down on military service members, Brian? The servicemen and women stand guard without thought to their popularity. I stood guard in basic training. I was too busy working or sleeping to stand guard during the remainder of my four years. I never entered any popularity contests. And so you think very little of your military service. Where did I write that I think little of my military service? I wrote that I only stood guard in basic training and that never entered any popularity contests. Are you busy trying to read between the lines again? Welp, at least you served. I don't recall asking for the Brian Burke stamp of approval--or needing it. In other words, Jim would be perfectly safe in any recruiter's office, though his visit might be short. Unless he wound up in Robesin's dads recruiter office... I noted Len's silly threat, made on behalf of others. You know and I know and even Len knows that such a thing would never happen. Lamebrains are not chosen as recruiters. Any recruiter who acted in such a manner would not only not be a recruiter for very long, he'd be in the slammer. All that is beside the point. I guess you didn't hear about the recruiting scandal where some recruiters were accepting personal favors for recruiting hookers. What happened to them? Are they still recruiters? Jim hasn't made any disparaging remarks directed at the military and I doubt he spends a lot of time in or near recruiting offices. We've just been treated to more of Len's (not very ably assisted by you) diversionary mumbo-jumbo. I guess 6M has closed to France? ....and that makes recruiters touchy? Dave K8MN |
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Dave Heil wrote: wrote: There's a parallel in amateur radio recruiting. From the ARRL down, the higher-ups love to look down on aspirants as dummies in radio...as if their lofty elite positions made them "expert." These self-proclaimed gods of radio then wonder why there isn't more participation and - especially - why there's so little love for their self-righteous precious, noble, best-of-all-possible-modes (in their minds), radiotelegraphy. I move Best of Luck. Don't forget that the job's not finished until the paper work is done. that we amend our military regulations so that each recruit to the enlisted ranks would enter military service at the E-9 grade. This would result in more participation by our citizenry and would prevent harm to anyone's self-esteem. We could also do away with military technical schools and the necessity for passing any exam which the new recruit might view as hazing. Calling any recruit a "dummy" would be banned. It looks like the World's Greatest DXer can't tell the diff between military service and a cool hobby. Why? What did he say on the topic? I thought the military was "cool" but only served in hot places. Remember, Pipsquawk, your pal Len brought up the comparison of recruiting for the military and amateur radio. Dave K8MN |
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Dave Heil wrote: wrote: Dave Heil wrote: wrote: wrote: wrote: wrote: wrote: wrote: KØHB wrote: wrote: I'm sorry if you were insulted, Hans - that was not my intent. Tsk, you were trying to insult me, not Hans. I wasn't *trying* to insult anyone, Len. I wonder what you would have said if you were actually "trying?" Equating military service with welfare is about all I can take. I'm not "taking" any of it. Jimmie can go over to his nearest military recruitment station and repeat his "subsidy" crack to any military person in there. After that, the "fourth morseketeer" would be absent from RRAP. I disagree. I think your average service person knows that their is a large segment of US society that looks down on them. But they are intelligent enough to know just how wrong that segment of society is. You're weaving another marvelous tale out of whole cloth. Who is it you believe to be looking down on military service members, Brian? The servicemen and women stand guard without thought to their popularity. I stood guard in basic training. I was too busy working or sleeping to stand guard during the remainder of my four years. I never entered any popularity contests. And so you think very little of your military service. Where did I write that I think little of my military service? I wrote that I only stood guard in basic training and that never entered any popularity contests. Are you busy trying to read between the lines again? You wrote that you got out of the service because they wouldn't let you play hobby radio in vietnam. Now you write that you were too busy to stand guard except during basic training. Somebody else would have to do it. Welp, at least you served. I don't recall asking for the Brian Burke stamp of approval--or needing it. And why would you? According to you, you've led a perfect life. In other words, Jim would be perfectly safe in any recruiter's office, though his visit might be short. Unless he wound up in Robesin's dads recruiter office... I noted Len's silly threat, made on behalf of others. You know and I know and even Len knows that such a thing would never happen. Lamebrains are not chosen as recruiters. Any recruiter who acted in such a manner would not only not be a recruiter for very long, he'd be in the slammer. All that is beside the point. I guess you didn't hear about the recruiting scandal where some recruiters were accepting personal favors for recruiting hookers. What happened to them? Are they still recruiters? Jim hasn't made any disparaging remarks directed at the military and I doubt he spends a lot of time in or near recruiting offices. We've just been treated to more of Len's (not very ably assisted by you) diversionary mumbo-jumbo. I guess 6M has closed to France? ...and that makes recruiters touchy? Dave K8MN Makes Dave, the World's Greatest DXer, touchy for having worked out of band Frenchmen on 6M. |
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"Guts"
Dave Heil wrote: wrote: Dave Heil wrote: wrote: Public transportation is NEVER sulf-sustaining, ALWAY subsidized. Interesting. I've NEVER heard of a subsidized taxi company. Is Greyhound subsidized too? Did you figure this out all by your "sulf"? Dave K8MN Not vewy Innewesting at all. What are you now--Elmer Fudd? Always with the names. Wassa matta wid you? Yellow Cab and Greyhound are for profit corporations. Of course they are. They're still public transportation. Your error is noted. They're not. Amtrak, Metropolitan Transit Authority (NYC), and Chicago Transit Authority are public and are subsidized. I've just given you a couple of examples which are public and not subsidized. You have? Are you taking Robesin's multiple-personality meds? I'd have to get up pretty late in the morning to be corrected by the World's Greatest DXer. When you see him, give him my regards. Dave K8MN Sorry, but I never see him. |
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