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^ Because of it's ability to increase power on the
^ frequencies that are common between FRS and GMRS, the
^ unit is not (or should not be) certified for use as
^ an FRS radio, there-by making illegal to use as one,
^ as certification is required.

Good points. But while reading your rules I think I found a better one:

Sec. 95.194 (FRS Rule 4) FRS units.
(a) You may only use an FCC certified FRS unit. (You
can identify an FCC certified FRS unit by the label
placed on it by the manufacturer.)

The radios we've been discussing are GMRS/FRS radios. An FRS operator is
permitted to "only use an FCC certified FRS unit." An FRS operator is not
permitted to use a GMRS radio unit. As per the regulations you cited,
GMRS/FRS units are GMRS units with FRS capabilities, so they may not be used
without a GMRS license.

Frank

"Frank" wrote in message
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PowerHouse CB & Scanner ...

^ Because of it's ability to increase power on the
^ frequencies that are common between FRS and GMRS, the
^ unit is not (or should not be) certified for use as
^ an FRS radio, there-by making illegal to use as one,
^ as certification is required.

Good points. But while reading your rules I think I found a better one:


Sec. 95.194 (FRS Rule 4) FRS units.
(a) You may only use an FCC certified FRS unit. (You
can identify an FCC certified FRS unit by the label
placed on it by the manufacturer.)

The radios we've been discussing are GMRS/FRS radios. An FRS operator is
permitted to "only use an FCC certified FRS unit." An FRS operator is not
permitted to use a GMRS radio unit. As per the regulations you cited,
GMRS/FRS units are GMRS units with FRS capabilities, so they may not be
used without a GMRS license.

Who says they're not FRS units with GMRS capabilities? The two of
you remind me of some guy in a r.a.* group not long ago claiming it was
against the law to buy a marine band radio, hook it up and _listen_ w/out a
license.
Using the above logic, it would be illegal for me, as a licensed
Technician, to operate an HF/6 meter rig in the 6 meter band, which is
nonsense - it's perfectly legal. (Yes, type acceptance arguments don't
apply - it's the LOGIC I'm talking about.)



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"Frank" wrote in message
news:01c35205$f9aa7d80$0125250a@lqobnirkuazgzcvg.. .
Good points. But while reading your rules I think I found a better one:

Sec. 95.194 (FRS Rule 4) FRS units.
(a) You may only use an FCC certified FRS unit. (You
can identify an FCC certified FRS unit by the label
placed on it by the manufacturer.)


I had thought about including that rule as well, however, I figured since my
argument was basically relating to that of power levels, I would only
include the portion relating to that.

The radios we've been discussing are GMRS/FRS radios. An FRS operator is
permitted to "only use an FCC certified FRS unit." An FRS operator is not
permitted to use a GMRS radio unit. As per the regulations you cited,
GMRS/FRS units are GMRS units with FRS capabilities, so they may not be
used
without a GMRS license.


Yup, that was my point. They truly aren't FRS radios, just GMRS radios with
a little extra. In essence, without the license, a person should not be
transmitting with one, even if they stick to the proper frequencies and
power levels. Who's going to know the difference? Probably no one, I just
wanted to make a point that technically it should not be done.

PH

PowerHouse CB & Scanner ...

^ Yup, that was my point. They truly aren't FRS radios,
^ just GMRS radios with a little extra. In essence,
^ without the license, a person should not be
^ transmitting with one, even if they stick to the proper
^ frequencies and power levels.

Thanks for the effort you took to convince me.

Frank