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Old November 21st 03, 07:09 AM
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Frank,

Thanks for the info....... the haze is finally beginning to clear.
although I do have one more question. I have Elsinore area programmed
in and the control channel pops up at different times with a lot of
static. I expect it is when they transmit to the MDT. Is there a way
to keep it quiet? I tried the squelch with no luck. I got the freqs
from Trunked Radio website and confirmed they match what you have.

Bryan





"Frank" wrote in message news:01c3af64$0e7c3f80$0125250a@onmkrutiaoovkame ...
FAE LLV#11 . ..

^ ...there are 6 groups of freqs. for the riverside county
^ sheriffs dept. these are apparently broken down by
^ repeater sites.

Each of those groups covers a geographic area and each group is called a
subsystem of the county-wide communications system. The Riverside County
system is split by San Jacinto mountain. If you are always on one side of the
mountain you won't need the subsystems on the other side. If you are only
concerned about one geographic area, Moreno Valley for example, you will only
need that one subsystem. But storing all subsystems on your side of the
mountain is helpful because they often go down (due to failure or
maintenance) so you could shift to a more distant subsystem to hear the same
traffic.


^ ... each has a channel "1" in them. If I wanted to monitor
^ more than 1 group of freqs. for a different geographical area.
^ Would i need to put them in a different bank to keep with the
^ channel 1 being first in the bank?

Yes. For example:

BANK 0 Subsystem 2A
Ch000 blank
Ch001 866.31250
Ch002 866.81250
Ch003 867.31250
Ch004 868.31250
Ch005 867.81250
Ch006 blank
Ch007 868.81250

BANK 1 Subsystem 2B
Ch100 blank
Ch101 866.23750
Ch102 866.73750
Ch103 867.23750
Ch104 867.73750
Ch105 868.23750
Ch106 866.78750
Ch107 868.73750
Ch108 867.28750
Ch109 868.26250
Ch110 868.71250

BANK 2 Subsystem 1A
Ch200 blank
Ch201 866.21250
Ch202 866.26250
Ch203 866.71250
Ch204 866.76250
Ch205 867.21250
Ch206 867.71250
Ch207 868.21250
Ch208 867.26250
Ch209 868.26250
Ch210 868.71250

Each of those banks would be set to ED mode and each of those frequencies
would also be set to ED mode. The control channel in each subsystem changes
as needed by the computer that controls the system, but you need not worry
about this since your radio will detect and use the appropriate frequency for
control.


^ I found the information for the DEC display for the
^ edacs on another website, at least I have an idea of
^ whos talking now.

That web site probably has some frequencies listed incorrectly. Try the
frequencies I have above.

The EDACS system can patch one channel (talk group) to another and both
channels will be assigned a new talk group ID during the patch. So if you're
listening to a pursuit on the Moreno Valley channel and everyone suddenly
disappears, that channel was probably patch together with an adjacent
geographic area so that units in both areas can follow the pursuit without
having to change channels. To find out where everyone is, set the bank to
OPEN (FUNC, 5). When you hear the same traffic press and HOLD the TRUNK
button (2 seconds) until it beeps and you will be locked onto that channel
(talk group).

Frank

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Old November 21st 03, 11:06 AM
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FAE LLV#11 .. .

^ I have Elsinore area programmed in and the control channel
^ pops up at different times with a lot of static. I expect it
^ is when they transmit to the MDT.

MDT/MDC data is transmitted on the other frequencies the same as voice is but
the radio doesn't normally send it to audio. MDT/MDC data is not transmitted
on the control channel so you would either be hearing control data on the
control channel or MDT/MDC data on a data channel.


^ Is there a way to keep it quiet?

You shouldn't be getting that noise and I don't know what it is so I can't
answer.

Try entering one of the other subsystems in another bank. Hopefully, with the
experience you gain by entering the second subsystem, this will help you
figure out what is wrong.

It is worth it to make or buy a serial interface for the radio and to
download the freeware program that Don Starr wrote (WIN93.EXE).

Frank

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Old November 22nd 03, 03:59 AM
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Frank, I have the software for the pro95 but not sure how to use all
the features......could not find an instruction manual......maybe you
dont need one.....or i'm to stupid to figure this stuff out.

Bryan






"Frank" wrote in message news:01c3b01f$74f4c960$0125250a@locdgizlysgbksrm ...
FAE LLV#11 .. .

^ I have Elsinore area programmed in and the control channel
^ pops up at different times with a lot of static. I expect it
^ is when they transmit to the MDT.

MDT/MDC data is transmitted on the other frequencies the same as voice is but
the radio doesn't normally send it to audio. MDT/MDC data is not transmitted
on the control channel so you would either be hearing control data on the
control channel or MDT/MDC data on a data channel.


^ Is there a way to keep it quiet?

You shouldn't be getting that noise and I don't know what it is so I can't
answer.

Try entering one of the other subsystems in another bank. Hopefully, with the
experience you gain by entering the second subsystem, this will help you
figure out what is wrong.

It is worth it to make or buy a serial interface for the radio and to
download the freeware program that Don Starr wrote (WIN93.EXE).

Frank

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Old November 22nd 03, 12:06 PM
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I think this web site might help you. It helped get me through many things
on the Pro-95.
http://marksscanners.home.att.net/95-1.html
Harryc
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"FAE LLV#11" wrote in message
m...
Frank, I have the software for the pro95 but not sure how to use all
the features......could not find an instruction manual......maybe you
dont need one.....or i'm to stupid to figure this stuff out.

Bryan






"Frank" wrote in message

news:01c3b01f$74f4c960$0125250a@locdgizlysgbksrm ...
FAE LLV#11 .. .

^ I have Elsinore area programmed in and the control channel
^ pops up at different times with a lot of static. I expect it
^ is when they transmit to the MDT.

MDT/MDC data is transmitted on the other frequencies the same as voice

is but
the radio doesn't normally send it to audio. MDT/MDC data is not

transmitted
on the control channel so you would either be hearing control data on

the
control channel or MDT/MDC data on a data channel.


^ Is there a way to keep it quiet?

You shouldn't be getting that noise and I don't know what it is so I

can't
answer.

Try entering one of the other subsystems in another bank. Hopefully,

with the
experience you gain by entering the second subsystem, this will help you
figure out what is wrong.

It is worth it to make or buy a serial interface for the radio and to
download the freeware program that Don Starr wrote (WIN93.EXE).

Frank



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Old November 22nd 03, 04:37 PM
Frank
 
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^ "FAE LLV#11" m...
^ Frank, I have the software for the pro95 but not sure
^ how to use all the features...

HarryC ...
^ I think this web site might help you. It helped get
^ me through many things on the Pro-95.
^ http://marksscanners.home.att.net/95-1.html

That should do it. The software (WIN95.EXE) should be easy to operate if you
understand how to operate the radio.

You can skip the SETTINGS tab for now. Most of those settings are OK in their
default configuration or they are things that you will be changing when you
use the radio in a normal manner.

You can also skip all the other tabs for now except CHANNELS. Here are some
brief instructions for the CHANNELS tab:

LEFT HALF OF DISPLAY
BANK: changes the tab to the bank you wish to work on at the time.

NAME: A label for the bank that helps you to remember what is in the bank.

CLOSED: Applies only to trunking. When checked, the only talk groups that
will be listened to are those that are listed in the talk group list at the
bottom right and are not locked out. If this is not checked then all talk
groups will be listened to.

TYPE: EDACS, MOTOROLA, or CONVENTIONAL. EDACS for a bank that contains EDACS
trunking frequencies, CONV for a bank that contains only normal frequencies.
Normal frequencies can also be used in a bank set to EDACS or MOT.

FREQUENCY LIST: Here's an example:

0.00000 FM D A L
866.31250 EDACS
866.81250 EDACS
867.31250 EDACS
868.31250 EDACS
867.81250 EDACS
854.96250 EDACS
868.81250 EDACS
854.96250 EDACS
CALCORD 156.07500 FM X


RIGHT HALF OF DISPLAY
Skip all the Motorola stuff.

CLEAR TRUNK INFO: Empties the trunk ID box below.

0-4 ON/OFF: A trunking bank can have 100 talk group IDs and they are listed
to the right in groups of 20. The buttons 0-4 change the list to that
particular group of 20. The check box to the right of each number (0-4)
serves as a general lock-out for the entire group if not checked.

DEC/HEX/AFS: Select which number format you will be using for talk group IDs:
decimal, hexadecimal, or agency/fleet/subsystem. These number formats all
convert to the same value, they are only different ways the number can be
entered and displayed. For example these are all the same:

Dec: 0273
Hex: 111
AFS: 02-021


Frank



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Old November 22nd 03, 10:53 PM
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HARRY , Thanks for that website that put everything in perspective so
to speak. I'm still looking some info on the software win95. Most of
my programing is done. With the website you gave me I can do it on the
scanner and with the right cable I can upload to the computer to
better understand the program.

Thanks again, Bryan






"HarryC" wrote in message ...
I think this web site might help you. It helped get me through many things
on the Pro-95.
http://marksscanners.home.att.net/95-1.html
Harryc
--
"FAE LLV#11" wrote in message
m...
Frank, I have the software for the pro95 but not sure how to use all
the features......could not find an instruction manual......maybe you
dont need one.....or i'm to stupid to figure this stuff out.

Bryan






"Frank" wrote in message

news:01c3b01f$74f4c960$0125250a@locdgizlysgbksrm ...
FAE LLV#11 .. .

^ I have Elsinore area programmed in and the control channel
^ pops up at different times with a lot of static. I expect it
^ is when they transmit to the MDT.

MDT/MDC data is transmitted on the other frequencies the same as voice

is but
the radio doesn't normally send it to audio. MDT/MDC data is not

transmitted
on the control channel so you would either be hearing control data on

the
control channel or MDT/MDC data on a data channel.


^ Is there a way to keep it quiet?

You shouldn't be getting that noise and I don't know what it is so I

can't
answer.

Try entering one of the other subsystems in another bank. Hopefully,

with the
experience you gain by entering the second subsystem, this will help you
figure out what is wrong.

It is worth it to make or buy a serial interface for the radio and to
download the freeware program that Don Starr wrote (WIN93.EXE).

Frank

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You bet, good luck.
Harryc
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"FAE LLV#11" wrote in message
m...
HARRY , Thanks for that website that put everything in perspective so
to speak. I'm still looking some info on the software win95. Most of
my programing is done. With the website you gave me I can do it on the
scanner and with the right cable I can upload to the computer to
better understand the program.

Thanks again, Bryan






"HarryC" wrote in message

...
I think this web site might help you. It helped get me through many

things
on the Pro-95.
http://marksscanners.home.att.net/95-1.html
Harryc
--
"FAE LLV#11" wrote in message
m...
Frank, I have the software for the pro95 but not sure how to use all
the features......could not find an instruction manual......maybe you
dont need one.....or i'm to stupid to figure this stuff out.

Bryan






"Frank" wrote in message

news:01c3b01f$74f4c960$0125250a@locdgizlysgbksrm ...
FAE LLV#11 .. .

^ I have Elsinore area programmed in and the control channel
^ pops up at different times with a lot of static. I expect it
^ is when they transmit to the MDT.

MDT/MDC data is transmitted on the other frequencies the same as

voice
is but
the radio doesn't normally send it to audio. MDT/MDC data is not

transmitted
on the control channel so you would either be hearing control data

on
the
control channel or MDT/MDC data on a data channel.


^ Is there a way to keep it quiet?

You shouldn't be getting that noise and I don't know what it is so I

can't
answer.

Try entering one of the other subsystems in another bank. Hopefully,

with the
experience you gain by entering the second subsystem, this will help

you
figure out what is wrong.

It is worth it to make or buy a serial interface for the radio and

to
download the freeware program that Don Starr wrote (WIN93.EXE).

Frank



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"Frank" wrote in message news:01c3b01f$74f4c960$0125250a@locdgizlysgbksrm ...
FAE LLV#11 .. .

^ I have Elsinore area programmed in and the control channel
^ pops up at different times with a lot of static. I expect it
^ is when they transmit to the MDT.

MDT/MDC data is transmitted on the other frequencies the same as voice is but
the radio doesn't normally send it to audio. MDT/MDC data is not transmitted
on the control channel so you would either be hearing control data on the
control channel or MDT/MDC data on a data channel.


^ Is there a way to keep it quiet?

I found out what the static is......The pro95 doesn't like to use the
priority channel when there is trunk tracking involved. I found this
info on another website. I like to listen to fire dispatch as my
priority but also like to listen to the SO on 800. Would like to find
a way around the static to listen to both.

Bryan



You shouldn't be getting that noise and I don't know what it is so I can't
answer.

Try entering one of the other subsystems in another bank. Hopefully, with the
experience you gain by entering the second subsystem, this will help you
figure out what is wrong.

It is worth it to make or buy a serial interface for the radio and to
download the freeware program that Don Starr wrote (WIN93.EXE).

Frank

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Old November 24th 03, 08:10 PM
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I found this to be true only when monitoring EDACS systems the MOT systems
do not seem to be affected. I gotta tell ya that static is awful.

Tim

"FAE LLV#11" wrote in message
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"Frank" wrote in message

news:01c3b01f$74f4c960$0125250a@locdgizlysgbksrm ...
FAE LLV#11 .. .

^ I have Elsinore area programmed in and the control channel
^ pops up at different times with a lot of static. I expect it
^ is when they transmit to the MDT.

MDT/MDC data is transmitted on the other frequencies the same as voice

is but
the radio doesn't normally send it to audio. MDT/MDC data is not

transmitted
on the control channel so you would either be hearing control data on

the
control channel or MDT/MDC data on a data channel.


^ Is there a way to keep it quiet?

I found out what the static is......The pro95 doesn't like to use the
priority channel when there is trunk tracking involved. I found this
info on another website. I like to listen to fire dispatch as my
priority but also like to listen to the SO on 800. Would like to find
a way around the static to listen to both.

Bryan



You shouldn't be getting that noise and I don't know what it is so I

can't
answer.

Try entering one of the other subsystems in another bank. Hopefully,

with the
experience you gain by entering the second subsystem, this will help you
figure out what is wrong.

It is worth it to make or buy a serial interface for the radio and to
download the freeware program that Don Starr wrote (WIN93.EXE).

Frank



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Old November 25th 03, 03:01 AM
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"Tim ODonnell" wrote in message ...

ok so how do I get rid of it....there has got to be a way! I cant
believe RS would build such a piece of equipment that would do that?

Bryan



I found this to be true only when monitoring EDACS systems the MOT
systems
do not seem to be affected. I gotta tell ya that static is awful.

Tim

"FAE LLV#11" wrote in message
m...
"Frank" wrote in message

news:01c3b01f$74f4c960$0125250a@locdgizlysgbksrm ...
FAE LLV#11 .. .

^ I have Elsinore area programmed in and the control channel
^ pops up at different times with a lot of static. I expect it
^ is when they transmit to the MDT.

MDT/MDC data is transmitted on the other frequencies the same as voice

is but
the radio doesn't normally send it to audio. MDT/MDC data is not

transmitted
on the control channel so you would either be hearing control data on

the
control channel or MDT/MDC data on a data channel.


^ Is there a way to keep it quiet?

I found out what the static is......The pro95 doesn't like to use the
priority channel when there is trunk tracking involved. I found this
info on another website. I like to listen to fire dispatch as my
priority but also like to listen to the SO on 800. Would like to find
a way around the static to listen to both.

Bryan



You shouldn't be getting that noise and I don't know what it is so I

can't
answer.

Try entering one of the other subsystems in another bank. Hopefully,

with the
experience you gain by entering the second subsystem, this will help you
figure out what is wrong.

It is worth it to make or buy a serial interface for the radio and to
download the freeware program that Don Starr wrote (WIN93.EXE).

Frank



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