God Bless everything Analog.When we speak,do our voice boxes broadcast
in Analog?,I think so.Mother Nature never used digital.
cuhulin

God Bless everything Analog.When we speak,do our voice boxes broadcast
in Analog?,I think so.Mother Nature never used digital.

The entire Universe is digital - Physicists have yet to discover an analog
sub-atomic particle.
The screen you are reading this from is made up of discrete digital pixels -
look closer " . "
Your analog senses can't resolve digital information smaller than 1/60th of
a second in duration.

On Feb 15, 2:13�pm, "Guerite�" wrote:
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On Feb 14, 12:51 pm, Rich wrote:
Well, from what I can hear there are only 3 stations left on the air
transmitting the IBOC signal on AM in the NY/NJ area. 660, 710 and 770.
It
would seem to me that it is'nt catching on at all. I have never
purchased
an AM HD radio because they are so expensive and non-available for the
most part and I am glad to have waited. FM may be better for IBOC but I
can't tell if they are broadcasting IBOC..it may be a success on FM if
radios get cheap and available.

Excellent - looks like HD Radio/IBOC on AM is almost dead:

"RW Opinion: Rethinking AM's future"

"Only 175 or so AM stations have even licensed AM-HD. For a number of
reasons, quite a few have tried it and taken it off the air, or so the
anecdotal evidence suggests. (Ibiquity no longer reports in its public
summaries whether a station is on the air.)"

If AM stations don't do anything to stem the tide of losing listenership it
will soon go the way of shortwave.

Why would anyone spend over a $1000 or $500 or $150 or even $30 on a
shortwave radio and many feet of wire hanging precariously around the garden
only to hope to listen to a handful or two of foreign radio stations
broadcasting primarily propaganda in the English language for about 1 hour a
day at best on constantly changing frequencies and schedules? *All the while
hoping 'Ol Sol will bless the listener with the rare event of no static, no
fading and complete aural comprehension?

If you listen to anal-log shortwave you have got to be an idiot.

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Little do you realize, that news/talk/sports on the clear-channels
command a higher advertising fee, than FM - too bad, asshole, AM is
alive and well. It is IBOC, that is failing, not analog.

On Feb 15, 12:38 pm, "Guerite³" wrote:
God Bless everything Analog.When we speak,do our voice boxes broadcast
in Analog?,I think so.Mother Nature never used digital.

The entire Universe is digital - Physicists have yet to discover an analog
sub-atomic particle.
The screen you are reading this from is made up of discrete digital pixels -
look closer " . "
Your analog senses can't resolve digital information smaller than 1/60th of
a second in duration.

- give me a Nice Digital Earth Quake or Digital Tidal wave any
day . . .

Digital Sunrises, digital Landslides, Digital Volcanic Eruptions,

Digital Plagues of Locusts, Too..

And, for you religious types, theres The Digital Crucifixion . . !

DIE IBOC, DIE ! ! ! !

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On Feb 15, 2:13?pm, "Guerite?" wrote:
Little do you realize, that news/talk/sports on the clear-channels
command a higher advertising fee, than FM - too bad, asshole, AM is
alive and well. It is IBOC, that is failing, not analog.

No, that is not true. Advertising is priced based on delivery of listeners,
no matter what the format. It is always a function of a certain dollar
amount for each thousand listeners, and pricing is by delivery.

A news talk station with good ratings gets the same rate as an FM with the
same ratings in the age group an advertiser is buying.

The issue with news talkers is they often bill among the higer range in a
market because they have higher numbers of minutes of spots. While most
larger market FMs sell no more than 10 to 12 minutes of commercials, news
talk often goes to 18 minutes and has more inventory.

The problem with AM news talk stations is that most have around half the
listeners over age 55, where there are nearly no agency ad buys.

In the US, there are 4665 AMs as of last week. Of the ones in rated markets,
only a small percentage, maybe 20% at best, are viable (decent signal and
full market day and night coverage) and these tend to do well. The rest are
either religious, brokered or ethnic.

For example, there is no vable AM in Washington, DC. Phoenix has only 2. So
what you can see is that while a market may have well over a dozen viable
FMs, the number of AMs is tiny.

On Feb 14, 4:57 pm, Tester wrote:
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 09:51:05 -0500, Rich
wrote:

Well, from what I can hear there are only 3 stations left on the air
transmitting the IBOC signal on AM in the NY/NJ area. 660, 710 and 770. It
would seem to me that it is'nt catching on at all. I have never purchased
an AM HD radio because they are so expensive and non-available for the
most part and I am glad to have waited. FM may be better for IBOC but I
can't tell if they are broadcasting IBOC..it may be a success on FM if
radios get cheap and available.

http://www.nyradiotv.com/digitalradio.htm

WFAN 660 (Infinity, sports, 50 kw)
WOR 710 (Buckley, talk, 50 kw)
WABC 770 (Disney, talk, 50 kw)
WNYC 820 (non-profit, variety)
WADO 1280 (Univision - news in Spanish)

Also, WCBS 880 (50 kw) and WINS 1010 (50 kw but Canadian clear
channel) (both Infinity all news outlets) say so on their web pages
(wcbs880.com and 1010wins.com)

Googling around, I also see that Multiethnic's WPAT (930, Spanish
music, Patterson, NJ) has an HD license which they use from time to
time.

I don't see any indication that the two other 50 kw AM outlets in NYC
(Disney sports WEPN 1050, Canadian clear channel, and Disney kids
WQEW, 1560) are HD.

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Most of the above are ' Talk Radio",

- what is the purpose of having them in HD ?

On Feb 15, 11:37�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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On Feb 15, 2:13?pm, "Guerite?" wrote:

Little do you realize, that news/talk/sports on the clear-channels
command a higher advertising fee, than FM - *too bad, asshole, AM is
alive and well. It is IBOC, that is failing, not analog.

No, that is not true. Advertising is priced based on delivery of listeners,
no matter what the format. It is always a function of a certain dollar
amount for each thousand listeners, and pricing is by delivery.

A news talk station with good ratings gets the same rate as an FM with the
same ratings in the age group an advertiser is buying.

The issue with news talkers is they often bill among the higer range in a
market because they have higher numbers of minutes of spots. While most
larger market FMs sell no more than 10 to 12 minutes of commercials, news
talk often goes to 18 minutes and has more inventory.

The problem with AM news talk stations is that most have around half the
listeners over age 55, where there are nearly no agency ad buys.

In the US, there are 4665 AMs as of last week. Of the ones in rated markets,
only a small percentage, maybe 20% at best, are viable (decent signal and
full market day and night coverage) and these tend to do well. The rest are
either religious, brokered or ethnic.

For example, there is no vable AM in Washington, DC. Phoenix has only 2. So
what you can see is that while a market may have well over a dozen viable
FMs, the number of AMs is tiny.

There are a ton of AM stations in the D.C area, which I never listen
to, anyway. I read, that news/talk/sports on the "clears" on AM are
alive-and-well and command higher ad fees than FM. BTW, there is more-
and-more negativity surrounding HD Radio, and it is all but dead on AM
- IBOC shall die, as DAB has in Canada. Analog AM will be around for
many years - too bad ! Consumers are not interested in HD Radio, as
75% of consumers are aware of HD Radio, but interest in HD Radio has
been flat-lined for two years:

http://www.google.com/trends?q=%22hd...ius%2C+podcast

Sucka !

Have you ever listened to AM (MW) HD? The voices sound MUCH better
than analog!
It's actually pleasant to listen to. But, they are only HD during the
day, so they're almost useless, except on weekends! That's why WINS
AM is on FM-HD2, so that it can be on all day and night.

FM HD doesn't have too much of an audio improvement over analog HD.
The thing with FM HD, is that you can have access to more programs.



Most of the above are ' Talk Radio",

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In article . com,
wrote:

Have you ever listened to AM (MW) HD? The voices sound MUCH better
than analog! It's actually pleasant to listen to. But, they are only
HD during the day, so they're almost useless, except on weekends!
That's why WINS AM is on FM-HD2, so that it can be on all day and
night.

FM HD doesn't have too much of an audio improvement over analog HD.
The thing with FM HD, is that you can have access to more programs.



Most of the above are ' Talk Radio",

- what is the purpose of having them in HD ?- Hide quoted text -


Low bit rate audio does not sound "good." I find analog pleasant to
listen too.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

http://mta.usnetworx.com/pointe-inno...hp?entryID=642

AM and FM Radio,most people listen to information,news,music or some
other form of entertainment.Seems to me HD IBOC radios aren't exactly
flying off the shelves compared to the millions of AM/FM radios that are
sold in America every day.
cuhulin.