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wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 19, 12:58?am, "David Eduardo" wrote: According to Radio Locator there are many AMs, just in the Ontario Providence alone, in reach of Maryland: And that number is about or less than half the AMs in Canada a decade ago. Canada has stated as official policy that AMs should only be left in large markets where improtant niche markets can be served by AM that the FM band can not accomodate. Examples are standards in Toronto or Chinese services in Vancouver. Otherwise, the remaining AMs will nearly all move to FM over the next few years. In addition to these lists, which I have access to many, I'll be dead, before these US and Canadian AMs go dead, if ever. I'll send some flowers. Canada has reduced the total number of AMs by more than half in the last decade, and exce´pt for a few major markets and a couple of stations like CBW and CBK, no other AMs should be left in Canada. South Africa eliminated all AM years ago... and many other nations have fewer AMs today than 25 years ago.... even lesser developed nations like Ecuador. Besides, AM talk/news/sports on the "clears" is alive-and-well, No, it is not. It is in revenue and ratings decline, albeit slow. None of those 50 kw stations billed more last year than in 2005... most were down significantly, per the industry source, BIA, and the millar KAplan market reporting system. and command higher ad dollars, than FM radio. Wrong. You do not get it, even when it is explained. Stations price by delivery. 1000 listeners gets the same rate, whether on AM or FM. So a news talk station with the same listenership in a sales demo as a music FM gets the same rate per spot. The problem is that most of the AM news / talk audience is NOT in sales demos, so news talk stations price below most big FMs in major markets. Of course, your main focus, as an IBOC shill, is to be a naysayer of the broadcast bands, so HD Radio/IBOC can be the great savior. AM radio is not going anywhere. With or without HD, the band is near death. HD may be a last chance. I even doubt that, but not to try is foolish. Staying the same is lunacy. Your sole purrpose in life, seems to be trying to make others miserable - Univision must have you locked in an office, because no one can stand to work with you, so no wonder, you just shill for IBOC all day and night long. I actually travel 40 to 45 weeks a year to the 17 markets we are in, talking to listeners about what they like and don't like on the radio. You really are a poor excuse of a man, and also a high-school dropout. I dropped out of High School because I was too busy building my first radio station, HCRM1. That station became survey-proven and revenue proven #1 in Quito, and was the base for a dozen or so more stations I built and owned. School was pretty boring by comparison. Leaving high school (in the US) was the best thing I could do... when I went back to do college about a decade later, I chose the courses I wanted since a degree was not of any interest to me... and that was truly fun and beneficial. Your suggestion is, apparently, that dullards drop out of school. I dropped out because it was boring, totally boring. Others drop out because they need to work for family reasons. Still others drop out because the US system sucks: we don't have the British one where at a certain point one decides on a white collar path or a technical field. So to indict dropouts is to ignore the fact that many have no choice, and others know that a trade is more suited to them than a college career, while others don't need the experience as they are autodidacts. |
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I see news tidbits about Brit schools once in a while and they are not
good. cuhulin |
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David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... He was over on alt.politics.immigration, but I think he left for a good cry. No, I just got tired of your failure to understand how dual nationalities work. I understand perfectly. However, that has nothing to do with you being a pathological liar. Nice try, boy. dxAce Michigan USA |
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David Eduardo wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 19, 12:58?am, "David Eduardo" wrote: According to Radio Locator there are many AMs, just in the Ontario Providence alone, in reach of Maryland: And that number is about or less than half the AMs in Canada a decade ago. Canada has stated as official policy that AMs should only be left in large markets where improtant niche markets can be served by AM that the FM band can not accomodate. Examples are standards in Toronto or Chinese services in Vancouver. Otherwise, the remaining AMs will nearly all move to FM over the next few years. In addition to these lists, which I have access to many, I'll be dead, before these US and Canadian AMs go dead, if ever. I'll send some flowers. Canada has reduced the total number of AMs by more than half in the last decade, and exce´pt for a few major markets and a couple of stations like CBW and CBK, no other AMs should be left in Canada. South Africa eliminated all AM years ago... and many other nations have fewer AMs today than 25 years ago.... even lesser developed nations like Ecuador. Besides, AM talk/news/sports on the "clears" is alive-and-well, No, it is not. It is in revenue and ratings decline, albeit slow. None of those 50 kw stations billed more last year than in 2005... most were down significantly, per the industry source, BIA, and the millar KAplan market reporting system. and command higher ad dollars, than FM radio. Wrong. You do not get it, even when it is explained. Stations price by delivery. 1000 listeners gets the same rate, whether on AM or FM. So a news talk station with the same listenership in a sales demo as a music FM gets the same rate per spot. The problem is that most of the AM news / talk audience is NOT in sales demos, so news talk stations price below most big FMs in major markets. Of course, your main focus, as an IBOC shill, is to be a naysayer of the broadcast bands, so HD Radio/IBOC can be the great savior. AM radio is not going anywhere. With or without HD, the band is near death. HD may be a last chance. I even doubt that, but not to try is foolish. Staying the same is lunacy. Your sole purrpose in life, seems to be trying to make others miserable - Univision must have you locked in an office, because no one can stand to work with you, so no wonder, you just shill for IBOC all day and night long. I actually travel 40 to 45 weeks a year to the 17 markets we are in, talking to listeners about what they like and don't like on the radio. You really are a poor excuse of a man, and also a high-school dropout. I dropped out of High School because I was too busy building my first radio station, HCRM1. That station became survey-proven and revenue proven #1 in Quito, and was the base for a dozen or so more stations I built and owned. School was pretty boring by comparison. Leaving high school (in the US) was the best thing I could do... when I went back to do college about a decade later, I chose the courses I wanted since a degree was not of any interest to me... and that was truly fun and beneficial. Your suggestion is, apparently, that dullards drop out of school. I dropped out because it was boring, totally boring. Others drop out because they need to work for family reasons. Still others drop out because the US system sucks: we don't have the British one where at a certain point one decides on a white collar path or a technical field. So to indict dropouts is to ignore the fact that many have no choice, and others know that a trade is more suited to them than a college career, while others don't need the experience as they are autodidacts. And some are pathologial liars such as yourself! dxAce Michigan USA |
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I don't know if she has become a nationalized American yet,but I sort of
know a 30 year old Irish woman from Limerick,Ireland.She works at a pub in the Atlanta area,or I guess she is still there,I haven't heard from her in two or three years,I reckon I will email her.At least seven or eight years ago,she got someone to sponsor her so she could move to America.Maybe she is still strictly an Irish citizen. cuhulin |
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"David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 18, 1:29?am, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message oups.com... What a pathetic, fat, worthless old man - you have no social skills, because your 24/7 interaction with people is spent blogging ! I gyuess this means that you can't refute my listing of AM n/t stations already moved to FM. Usenet is not a blogdspot. The move has stalled with the FCC. The FCC does not regulate or have anything to do with format changes. AM news/talk/sports is alive-and- well. And moving form AM to FM at an increasing pace, based on the early successes. Where is this happening? Orlando, Pittsburgh, New Orleans, Jacksonville, Salt Lake City, Phoenix, Dayton, Tallahassee, etc. You expect that to happen in the LA area were it will affect my listening? Major runors that Clear is going to take the loser in the Spring or Summer book out of KYSR, KHHT or KBIG and make it a simulcast of KFI. Eventually, 640 could be changed to another formrat, or kept for the senior citizens... So if this does not happen will you admit you are wrong on the whole IBOC issue and formats? -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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"Telamon" wrote in message ... Major runors that Clear is going to take the loser in the Spring or Summer book out of KYSR, KHHT or KBIG and make it a simulcast of KFI. Eventually, 640 could be changed to another formrat, or kept for the senior citizens... So if this does not happen will you admit you are wrong on the whole IBOC issue and formats? I said that if one o fthe three underperforming FMs in LA does not recover int he next two books, it will be considered to reinforce KFI. Clear has already made some major FM news talk moves, ranging from Tallahassee to New Orleans to Pittsburgh. |
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"Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... Major runors that Clear is going to take the loser in the Spring or Summer book out of KYSR, KHHT or KBIG and make it a simulcast of KFI. Eventually, 640 could be changed to another formrat, or kept for the senior citizens... So if this does not happen will you admit you are wrong on the whole IBOC issue and formats? I said that if one o fthe three underperforming FMs in LA does not recover int he next two books, it will be considered to reinforce KFI. Clear has already made some major FM news talk moves, ranging from Tallahassee to New Orleans to Pittsburgh. OK fine but I consider your comment "Eventually, 640 could be changed to another formrat (sic, format), or kept for the senior citizens..." derogatory. KFI has over 50% of its listeners in 55+, a demo no significant LA advertiser buys. And the station is ageing every year, and will start to decline in billings. |
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"Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message . .. Major runors that Clear is going to take the loser in the Spring or Summer book out of KYSR, KHHT or KBIG and make it a simulcast of KFI. Eventually, 640 could be changed to another formrat, or kept for the senior citizens... So if this does not happen will you admit you are wrong on the whole IBOC issue and formats? I said that if one o fthe three underperforming FMs in LA does not recover int he next two books, it will be considered to reinforce KFI. Clear has already made some major FM news talk moves, ranging from Tallahassee to New Orleans to Pittsburgh. OK fine but I consider your comment "Eventually, 640 could be changed to another formrat (sic, format), or kept for the senior citizens..." derogatory. KFI has over 50% of its listeners in 55+, a demo no significant LA advertiser buys. And the station is ageing every year, and will start to decline in billings. Why is that? The 55+ age group has more disposable income. In the larger markets... (Sidebar... 30% of all radio ad revenue is generated in just the first 10 markets) .... most advertising is what is called "transactional" and placed by agencies on behalf of agency clients. Transactional means that the buy is based on the cost of delivery of some measure of listenership, like the amount you pay to reach every 1000 listeners. Ad agencies are given orders by the clients as to who they consider the best potential consumers. The agency creates advertising directed at that group, and then places ad buys based on cost /delivery to reach them. In the simplest terms, advertisers don't go after anyone over 55. This has nothing to do with the wealth or lack of same of that market segment. It has to do with how many ads it takes to change a buying behaviour. Older consumers take more convincing... thus, more ads... to make a sale. In many cases, an ROI (Return on Investment) analysis shows advertising to older consumers causes a loss with every sale. Lots of people drink beer... but most beer ads are directed at 21 to 39 year old males, because that is where the money is. The ROI on advertising to other groups is low or not profitable. As an example, in LA last year... and LA is the biggest revenue radio ad market... there were no buys by agencies against 55+. So, that is the problem with AM. 80% of its listening is by listeners over 45, and much of that is by people over 55... an audience nobody really wants in the larger, rated markets. In smaller markets, or suburban situations, local direct advertisers will be more flexible... but for the bulk of US radio advertising, 55+ is not desirable. |
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David Eduardo wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message . .. Major runors that Clear is going to take the loser in the Spring or Summer book out of KYSR, KHHT or KBIG and make it a simulcast of KFI. Eventually, 640 could be changed to another formrat, or kept for the senior citizens... So if this does not happen will you admit you are wrong on the whole IBOC issue and formats? I said that if one o fthe three underperforming FMs in LA does not recover int he next two books, it will be considered to reinforce KFI. Clear has already made some major FM news talk moves, ranging from Tallahassee to New Orleans to Pittsburgh. OK fine but I consider your comment "Eventually, 640 could be changed to another formrat (sic, format), or kept for the senior citizens..." derogatory. KFI has over 50% of its listeners in 55+, a demo no significant LA advertiser buys. And the station is ageing every year, and will start to decline in billings. Why is that? The 55+ age group has more disposable income. In the larger markets... (Sidebar... 30% of all radio ad revenue is generated in just the first 10 markets) ... most advertising is what is called "transactional" and placed by agencies on behalf of agency clients. Transactional means that the buy is based on the cost of delivery of some measure of listenership, like the amount you pay to reach every 1000 listeners. Ad agencies are given orders by the clients as to who they consider the best potential consumers. The agency creates advertising directed at that group, and then places ad buys based on cost /delivery to reach them. In the simplest terms, advertisers don't go after anyone over 55. This has nothing to do with the wealth or lack of same of that market segment. It has to do with how many ads it takes to change a buying behaviour. Older consumers take more convincing... thus, more ads... to make a sale. In many cases, an ROI (Return on Investment) analysis shows advertising to older consumers causes a loss with every sale. Lots of people drink beer... but most beer ads are directed at 21 to 39 year old males, because that is where the money is. The ROI on advertising to other groups is low or not profitable. As an example, in LA last year... and LA is the biggest revenue radio ad market... there were no buys by agencies against 55+. So, that is the problem with AM. 80% of its listening is by listeners over 45, and much of that is by people over 55... an audience nobody really wants in the larger, rated markets. In smaller markets, or suburban situations, local direct advertisers will be more flexible... but for the bulk of US radio advertising, 55+ is not desirable. And you be 60... into da bin wid you, boy. Adios, puto. dxAce Michigan USA |
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