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Have you ever listened to AM (MW) HD? The voices sound MUCH better
than analog!
It's actually pleasant to listen to. But, they are only HD during the
day, so they're almost useless, except on weekends! That's why WINS
AM is on FM-HD2, so that it can be on all day and night.


But there is so little AM listening at night that it really does not
matter,
business wise.
If that is true, then why is news/talk/.sport so popular at night.


It isn't.


Another IBOC shill, full-of-**** !


OK, potty mouth: show me how there is so much listening to AM news talk at
night that we could apply the term "popular" to it.

Remember, we need numbers of persons, not share. A 10 share in 7PM-Midnight
is less than a 2 share at 7AM in terms of people. A 20 share at 11 PM is
less people than a 1 share at 7 AM.

Example: At 7 AM, 2.6 million people are listening to radio in Los Angeles,
19.5% of whom are listening to AM
At 11 PM, of the 500,000 listening to radio, only 2.3% were listening to AM.
So not only does AM command a very small percentage of peak hour listening,
it even underperforms its own weak overall showing in evening hours.

Then, looking at younger demos, in 12 to 34, 7 AM, AM has only a 5.9 share
of radio listening, and at 11 PM it is down to a 2.3% share.

So, AM night listening is dismal 12+, and nearly non-existent at night!


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David Frackelton Gleason, still posing as 'Eduardo', tried yet again to BS the
masses when he wrote:

wrote in message
ps.com...
On Feb 17, 12:03?am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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ups.com...
On Feb 16, 5:39?am, "David Eduardo" wrote:

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oups.com...

Have you ever listened to AM (MW) HD? The voices sound MUCH better
than analog!
It's actually pleasant to listen to. But, they are only HD during the
day, so they're almost useless, except on weekends! That's why WINS
AM is on FM-HD2, so that it can be on all day and night.

But there is so little AM listening at night that it really does not
matter,
business wise.
If that is true, then why is news/talk/.sport so popular at night.

It isn't.


Another IBOC shill, full-of-**** !


OK, potty mouth: show me how there is so much listening to AM news talk at
night that we could apply the term "popular" to it.

Remember, we need numbers of persons, not share. A 10 share in 7PM-Midnight
is less than a 2 share at 7AM in terms of people. A 20 share at 11 PM is
less people than a 1 share at 7 AM.

Example: At 7 AM, 2.6 million people are listening to radio in Los Angeles,
19.5% of whom are listening to AM
At 11 PM, of the 500,000 listening to radio, only 2.3% were listening to AM.
So not only does AM command a very small percentage of peak hour listening,
it even underperforms its own weak overall showing in evening hours.

Then, looking at younger demos, in 12 to 34, 7 AM, AM has only a 5.9 share
of radio listening, and at 11 PM it is down to a 2.3% share.

So, AM night listening is dismal 12+, and nearly non-existent at night!


Let's forget for a moment that you're a known pathological liar and a fake
Hispanic and ask ourselves what does the above have to do with the fact that
you're a shill for IBOC?

dxAce
Michigan
USA


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As I said, news/talk/sports on AM is alive-and-well and command higher
ad dollars than FM. You are just one of the naysayers, who shill
IBOC,as the great savior. The FM band is already over-crowded and
there is no big move from AM to FM.

News/talkers on AM get "market rates" that are identical for each
demograsphic target to FMs. A station with 50,000 AQH listeners on AM
will
get the same rate as one on FM, not more... as long as you are comparing
the
same demos.

AM news talk stations do NOT get higher rates for equivalent listenrship
than FMs do.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I did not say AM statios were turning in their licences and getting new
FM
licences. Operators are moving ageing talk formats from AM to FM to
improve
the younger demo performance...

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

KTAR AM in Phoenix moved to FM, making the AM all sports after moving the
sports format from another, inferior AM whcih will be sold or donated.

WTOP AM in Washington, DC, a 50 kw AM, moved 100% to FM and put an
experimental format on the AM in conjunction with a local newswpaper.

KSL in Salt Lake City began simulcasting in 2006 with an FM to improve
younger demos... despite KSL being a 1A clear channel.

WNLS in Tallahassee moved the n/t format to FM, leaving sports on the AM.

Clear Channel has started FM news talkers in Pittsburg and New Orleans
from
scratch. The P'burg one already beats AMer KDKA significantly in 25-54,
and
the NO one is dramatically impacting WWL, clear channel 870.

Cox has begun simulcasting is Jacksonville and Dayton AM talkers on FM to
improved the greying demos and lake of sales growth on the AM band.

And the story is just beginning. News talk can't survive long on AM as
the
demos are old and unsalable, so more and more will move to FM.


There's not enough room on FM



Try reading my first paragraph again. I said that operastors are moving the
news/talk formats to FM from AM. I did not say they were getting enw
licences. Owners of both AMs and FMs in many markets are taking the format
(the intellectual property) from the AM and plugging the audio into an FM
station (replacing the existing music format).

In other words, they have found that putting the news talk format they had
been putting on an AM transmitter onto an FM station the 35-54 listening
increases considerably, reversing the downtrend seen on the AM channel. In
some cases, the remaining AM frequency, devoid of its format, became nearly
valuless (like 1500 in DC) and in other cases a simulcast is being run to
offer the fomrat on both bands... FM for younger, more salable demographics,
and AM for the traditional listener (like WOKV in Jacksonville is doing).

There is plenty of "room" on FM. All it takes is a lesser performing FM
format that can be replaced by an existing, but ageing, AM news talk format
and you have instant success and better demographics.



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And the story is just beginning. News talk can't survive long on AM as
the
demos are old and unsalable, so more and more will move to FM.


"FM Translators for AM Stations?"

"And this might not be the best case. As you may remember, the FCC
already has an open proceeding trying to determine the relative value
of FM translators versus low power FM stations. That proceeding seeks
to determine if low power FM stations should receive a preference over
FM translators. That proceeding also put a freeze on the processing
of all new FM translator applications - a freeze that was supposed to
last 6 months but has now been in place for almost a year and a half.
Since the FM translators that would be authorized by the NAB proposal
could also preclude LPFM stations, as well as be precluded by the
translators still pending from the last FM translator window, the
opportunity to file for translators for AM stations may be technically
precluded in some areas, and may not be able to occur until the LPFM
issues are resolved. And none of that may come quickly."


You just missed the point, I think. I am talking about an owner replacing an
existing music format on an FM they own with the AM news talk format. No new
channels or transmitters or frequencies or antennas or anything are needed.
The format is changed by telling the router in the TOC at the station to
send the audio to the designated FM instead of the AM (or in addition to
that).

There is no licensing or technical change... it is all about content and
where it gets placed.


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"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Frackelton Gleason, still posing as 'Eduardo', tried yet again to BS
the
masses when he wrote:


It's my legal name and has been for over 5 decades, you fool.


So, AM night listening is dismal 12+, and nearly non-existent at night!


Let's forget for a moment that you're a known pathological liar


An impression formed only in your twisted, welfare-dependent mind.

and a fake
Hispanic


"Hispanic" is a culture. I am culturally Hispanic. I don't understand how
this is such a big deal. Were I to have been lost in the Amazonian forrest
at age 13, and raised by Aucas, I would culturally be an Auca 5 decades
later.

and ask ourselves what does the above have to do with the fact that
you're a shill for IBOC?


Actually, I am hopeful (but not optimistic) that AM can be saved as a useful
part of radio's offerings to the public based on improving its quality and
perception. HD is about the only viable answer we have right now...
otherwise, we can write off AM in the next 5 to 10 years, totally.




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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Frackelton Gleason, still posing as 'Eduardo', tried yet again to BS
the
masses when he wrote:


It's my legal name and has been for over 5 decades, you fool.


So, AM night listening is dismal 12+, and nearly non-existent at night!


Let's forget for a moment that you're a known pathological liar


An impression formed only in your twisted, welfare-dependent mind.


Welfare?



and a fake
Hispanic


"Hispanic" is a culture. I am culturally Hispanic. I don't understand how
this is such a big deal. Were I to have been lost in the Amazonian forrest
at age 13, and raised by Aucas, I would culturally be an Auca 5 decades
later.


You've been a fake Hispanic since c.2000 when you dreamed up the 'Eduardo'
shtick.



and ask ourselves what does the above have to do with the fact that
you're a shill for IBOC?


Actually, I am hopeful (but not optimistic) that AM can be saved as a useful
part of radio's offerings to the public based on improving its quality and
perception. HD is about the only viable answer we have right now...


Yeah, since it needs saving might as well QRM!

LMFAO at the pathological prancing fool.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Frackelton Gleason, still posing as 'Eduardo', tried yet again to BS
the
masses when he wrote:


It's my legal name and has been for over 5 decades, you fool.


That's real funny! Nobody back home in Cleveland seems to recall that.

Keep trying the BS, you might hit on something that works one of these days.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

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"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:



An impression formed only in your twisted, welfare-dependent mind.


Welfare?


I see. Your income comes from where?

"Hispanic" is a culture. I am culturally Hispanic. I don't understand how
this is such a big deal. Were I to have been lost in the Amazonian
forrest
at age 13, and raised by Aucas, I would culturally be an Auca 5 decades
later.


You've been a fake Hispanic since c.2000 when you dreamed up the 'Eduardo'
shtick.


Actually, it was given me at the time of my baptism... which was about 50
years before the date you name

and ask ourselves what does the above have to do with the fact that
you're a shill for IBOC?


Actually, I am hopeful (but not optimistic) that AM can be saved as a
useful
part of radio's offerings to the public based on improving its quality
and
perception. HD is about the only viable answer we have right now...


Yeah, since it needs saving might as well QRM!


The way you seem to prefer is to reduce interference by having stations fall
silent.

Nobody but a few DXers really cares abut adjacent channel reception in the
shadow of a powerful local signal.


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"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Frackelton Gleason, still posing as 'Eduardo', tried yet again to
BS
the
masses when he wrote:


It's my legal name and has been for over 5 decades, you fool.


That's real funny! Nobody back home in Cleveland seems to recall that.


Nobody "back home" would remember as I have nearly no family there and left
a decade before the time adult friendships are developed. Who in the would
_would_ know? Of course, on my first daughter's birth certificate, dated
1965, the "father's name" has "Eduardo" as my second given name.

There you go... but I fail to see how it matters what name I have and use.
J. Paul Getty chose to use his second given name as opposed to the first
one... it was his choice, and he used it most of his life. Was he a fake
because he liked one name more than another?

You seem to attach importance to things that are either unimportant or just
matters of personal choice.



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David Frackelton Gleason, still posing as 'Eduardo', yet again spewed BS when he
wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:



An impression formed only in your twisted, welfare-dependent mind.


Welfare?


I see. Your income comes from where?


Several sources, none of them being welfare, prancer boy!



"Hispanic" is a culture. I am culturally Hispanic. I don't understand how
this is such a big deal. Were I to have been lost in the Amazonian
forrest
at age 13, and raised by Aucas, I would culturally be an Auca 5 decades
later.


You've been a fake Hispanic since c.2000 when you dreamed up the 'Eduardo'
shtick.


Actually, it was given me at the time of my baptism... which was about 50
years before the date you name


Absolutely pathological!





and ask ourselves what does the above have to do with the fact that
you're a shill for IBOC?

Actually, I am hopeful (but not optimistic) that AM can be saved as a
useful
part of radio's offerings to the public based on improving its quality
and
perception. HD is about the only viable answer we have right now...


Yeah, since it needs saving might as well QRM!


The way you seem to prefer is to reduce interference by having stations fall
silent.


No, I'd like them to drop HD/IBOC. Pay attention, prancer!



Nobody but a few DXers really cares abut adjacent channel reception in the
shadow of a powerful local signal.


Nobody?

Still LMFAO at the pathological prancing fool.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


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