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HD AM in NJ/NY ?
wrote in message ps.com... On Feb 17, 12:03?am, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message ups.com... On Feb 16, 5:39?am, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Have you ever listened to AM (MW) HD? The voices sound MUCH better than analog! It's actually pleasant to listen to. But, they are only HD during the day, so they're almost useless, except on weekends! That's why WINS AM is on FM-HD2, so that it can be on all day and night. But there is so little AM listening at night that it really does not matter, business wise. If that is true, then why is news/talk/.sport so popular at night. It isn't. Another IBOC shill, full-of-**** ! OK, potty mouth: show me how there is so much listening to AM news talk at night that we could apply the term "popular" to it. Remember, we need numbers of persons, not share. A 10 share in 7PM-Midnight is less than a 2 share at 7AM in terms of people. A 20 share at 11 PM is less people than a 1 share at 7 AM. Example: At 7 AM, 2.6 million people are listening to radio in Los Angeles, 19.5% of whom are listening to AM At 11 PM, of the 500,000 listening to radio, only 2.3% were listening to AM. So not only does AM command a very small percentage of peak hour listening, it even underperforms its own weak overall showing in evening hours. Then, looking at younger demos, in 12 to 34, 7 AM, AM has only a 5.9 share of radio listening, and at 11 PM it is down to a 2.3% share. So, AM night listening is dismal 12+, and nearly non-existent at night! |
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HD AM in NJ/NY ?
David Frackelton Gleason, still posing as 'Eduardo', tried yet again to BS the masses when he wrote: wrote in message ps.com... On Feb 17, 12:03?am, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message ups.com... On Feb 16, 5:39?am, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Have you ever listened to AM (MW) HD? The voices sound MUCH better than analog! It's actually pleasant to listen to. But, they are only HD during the day, so they're almost useless, except on weekends! That's why WINS AM is on FM-HD2, so that it can be on all day and night. But there is so little AM listening at night that it really does not matter, business wise. If that is true, then why is news/talk/.sport so popular at night. It isn't. Another IBOC shill, full-of-**** ! OK, potty mouth: show me how there is so much listening to AM news talk at night that we could apply the term "popular" to it. Remember, we need numbers of persons, not share. A 10 share in 7PM-Midnight is less than a 2 share at 7AM in terms of people. A 20 share at 11 PM is less people than a 1 share at 7 AM. Example: At 7 AM, 2.6 million people are listening to radio in Los Angeles, 19.5% of whom are listening to AM At 11 PM, of the 500,000 listening to radio, only 2.3% were listening to AM. So not only does AM command a very small percentage of peak hour listening, it even underperforms its own weak overall showing in evening hours. Then, looking at younger demos, in 12 to 34, 7 AM, AM has only a 5.9 share of radio listening, and at 11 PM it is down to a 2.3% share. So, AM night listening is dismal 12+, and nearly non-existent at night! Let's forget for a moment that you're a known pathological liar and a fake Hispanic and ask ourselves what does the above have to do with the fact that you're a shill for IBOC? dxAce Michigan USA |
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HD AM in NJ/NY ?
wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 17, 12:02?am, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 16, 5:39?am, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message As I said, news/talk/sports on AM is alive-and-well and command higher ad dollars than FM. You are just one of the naysayers, who shill IBOC,as the great savior. The FM band is already over-crowded and there is no big move from AM to FM. News/talkers on AM get "market rates" that are identical for each demograsphic target to FMs. A station with 50,000 AQH listeners on AM will get the same rate as one on FM, not more... as long as you are comparing the same demos. AM news talk stations do NOT get higher rates for equivalent listenrship than FMs do. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I did not say AM statios were turning in their licences and getting new FM licences. Operators are moving ageing talk formats from AM to FM to improve the younger demo performance... --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- KTAR AM in Phoenix moved to FM, making the AM all sports after moving the sports format from another, inferior AM whcih will be sold or donated. WTOP AM in Washington, DC, a 50 kw AM, moved 100% to FM and put an experimental format on the AM in conjunction with a local newswpaper. KSL in Salt Lake City began simulcasting in 2006 with an FM to improve younger demos... despite KSL being a 1A clear channel. WNLS in Tallahassee moved the n/t format to FM, leaving sports on the AM. Clear Channel has started FM news talkers in Pittsburg and New Orleans from scratch. The P'burg one already beats AMer KDKA significantly in 25-54, and the NO one is dramatically impacting WWL, clear channel 870. Cox has begun simulcasting is Jacksonville and Dayton AM talkers on FM to improved the greying demos and lake of sales growth on the AM band. And the story is just beginning. News talk can't survive long on AM as the demos are old and unsalable, so more and more will move to FM. There's not enough room on FM Try reading my first paragraph again. I said that operastors are moving the news/talk formats to FM from AM. I did not say they were getting enw licences. Owners of both AMs and FMs in many markets are taking the format (the intellectual property) from the AM and plugging the audio into an FM station (replacing the existing music format). In other words, they have found that putting the news talk format they had been putting on an AM transmitter onto an FM station the 35-54 listening increases considerably, reversing the downtrend seen on the AM channel. In some cases, the remaining AM frequency, devoid of its format, became nearly valuless (like 1500 in DC) and in other cases a simulcast is being run to offer the fomrat on both bands... FM for younger, more salable demographics, and AM for the traditional listener (like WOKV in Jacksonville is doing). There is plenty of "room" on FM. All it takes is a lesser performing FM format that can be replaced by an existing, but ageing, AM news talk format and you have instant success and better demographics. |
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wrote in message ups.com... On Feb 17, 12:02?am, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message And the story is just beginning. News talk can't survive long on AM as the demos are old and unsalable, so more and more will move to FM. "FM Translators for AM Stations?" "And this might not be the best case. As you may remember, the FCC already has an open proceeding trying to determine the relative value of FM translators versus low power FM stations. That proceeding seeks to determine if low power FM stations should receive a preference over FM translators. That proceeding also put a freeze on the processing of all new FM translator applications - a freeze that was supposed to last 6 months but has now been in place for almost a year and a half. Since the FM translators that would be authorized by the NAB proposal could also preclude LPFM stations, as well as be precluded by the translators still pending from the last FM translator window, the opportunity to file for translators for AM stations may be technically precluded in some areas, and may not be able to occur until the LPFM issues are resolved. And none of that may come quickly." You just missed the point, I think. I am talking about an owner replacing an existing music format on an FM they own with the AM news talk format. No new channels or transmitters or frequencies or antennas or anything are needed. The format is changed by telling the router in the TOC at the station to send the audio to the designated FM instead of the AM (or in addition to that). There is no licensing or technical change... it is all about content and where it gets placed. |
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HD AM in NJ/NY ?
"dxAce" wrote in message ... David Frackelton Gleason, still posing as 'Eduardo', tried yet again to BS the masses when he wrote: It's my legal name and has been for over 5 decades, you fool. So, AM night listening is dismal 12+, and nearly non-existent at night! Let's forget for a moment that you're a known pathological liar An impression formed only in your twisted, welfare-dependent mind. and a fake Hispanic "Hispanic" is a culture. I am culturally Hispanic. I don't understand how this is such a big deal. Were I to have been lost in the Amazonian forrest at age 13, and raised by Aucas, I would culturally be an Auca 5 decades later. and ask ourselves what does the above have to do with the fact that you're a shill for IBOC? Actually, I am hopeful (but not optimistic) that AM can be saved as a useful part of radio's offerings to the public based on improving its quality and perception. HD is about the only viable answer we have right now... otherwise, we can write off AM in the next 5 to 10 years, totally. |
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David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Frackelton Gleason, still posing as 'Eduardo', tried yet again to BS the masses when he wrote: It's my legal name and has been for over 5 decades, you fool. So, AM night listening is dismal 12+, and nearly non-existent at night! Let's forget for a moment that you're a known pathological liar An impression formed only in your twisted, welfare-dependent mind. Welfare? and a fake Hispanic "Hispanic" is a culture. I am culturally Hispanic. I don't understand how this is such a big deal. Were I to have been lost in the Amazonian forrest at age 13, and raised by Aucas, I would culturally be an Auca 5 decades later. You've been a fake Hispanic since c.2000 when you dreamed up the 'Eduardo' shtick. and ask ourselves what does the above have to do with the fact that you're a shill for IBOC? Actually, I am hopeful (but not optimistic) that AM can be saved as a useful part of radio's offerings to the public based on improving its quality and perception. HD is about the only viable answer we have right now... Yeah, since it needs saving might as well QRM! LMFAO at the pathological prancing fool. dxAce Michigan USA |
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HD AM in NJ/NY ?
David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Frackelton Gleason, still posing as 'Eduardo', tried yet again to BS the masses when he wrote: It's my legal name and has been for over 5 decades, you fool. That's real funny! Nobody back home in Cleveland seems to recall that. Keep trying the BS, you might hit on something that works one of these days. dxAce Michigan USA |
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HD AM in NJ/NY ?
"dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: An impression formed only in your twisted, welfare-dependent mind. Welfare? I see. Your income comes from where? "Hispanic" is a culture. I am culturally Hispanic. I don't understand how this is such a big deal. Were I to have been lost in the Amazonian forrest at age 13, and raised by Aucas, I would culturally be an Auca 5 decades later. You've been a fake Hispanic since c.2000 when you dreamed up the 'Eduardo' shtick. Actually, it was given me at the time of my baptism... which was about 50 years before the date you name and ask ourselves what does the above have to do with the fact that you're a shill for IBOC? Actually, I am hopeful (but not optimistic) that AM can be saved as a useful part of radio's offerings to the public based on improving its quality and perception. HD is about the only viable answer we have right now... Yeah, since it needs saving might as well QRM! The way you seem to prefer is to reduce interference by having stations fall silent. Nobody but a few DXers really cares abut adjacent channel reception in the shadow of a powerful local signal. |
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HD AM in NJ/NY ?
"dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Frackelton Gleason, still posing as 'Eduardo', tried yet again to BS the masses when he wrote: It's my legal name and has been for over 5 decades, you fool. That's real funny! Nobody back home in Cleveland seems to recall that. Nobody "back home" would remember as I have nearly no family there and left a decade before the time adult friendships are developed. Who in the would _would_ know? Of course, on my first daughter's birth certificate, dated 1965, the "father's name" has "Eduardo" as my second given name. There you go... but I fail to see how it matters what name I have and use. J. Paul Getty chose to use his second given name as opposed to the first one... it was his choice, and he used it most of his life. Was he a fake because he liked one name more than another? You seem to attach importance to things that are either unimportant or just matters of personal choice. |
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David Frackelton Gleason, still posing as 'Eduardo', yet again spewed BS when he wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: An impression formed only in your twisted, welfare-dependent mind. Welfare? I see. Your income comes from where? Several sources, none of them being welfare, prancer boy! "Hispanic" is a culture. I am culturally Hispanic. I don't understand how this is such a big deal. Were I to have been lost in the Amazonian forrest at age 13, and raised by Aucas, I would culturally be an Auca 5 decades later. You've been a fake Hispanic since c.2000 when you dreamed up the 'Eduardo' shtick. Actually, it was given me at the time of my baptism... which was about 50 years before the date you name Absolutely pathological! and ask ourselves what does the above have to do with the fact that you're a shill for IBOC? Actually, I am hopeful (but not optimistic) that AM can be saved as a useful part of radio's offerings to the public based on improving its quality and perception. HD is about the only viable answer we have right now... Yeah, since it needs saving might as well QRM! The way you seem to prefer is to reduce interference by having stations fall silent. No, I'd like them to drop HD/IBOC. Pay attention, prancer! Nobody but a few DXers really cares abut adjacent channel reception in the shadow of a powerful local signal. Nobody? Still LMFAO at the pathological prancing fool. dxAce Michigan USA |
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