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News/talk/sports is alive-and-well on the "clears".


That's about 20 stations, all of which are declining in sales demos and
billings.

On Feb 19, 11:40?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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News/talk/sports is alive-and-well on the "clears".

That's about 20 stations, all of which are declining in sales demos and
billings.

That's bull****, shill:

http://www.northpine.com/broadcast/50kwam.html

Analog AM will be around for many years , long after HD Radio/IBOC has
died - interesting, you never tried to counter my other posts. HD
Radio/IBOC is already dead.

On Feb 19, 1:45?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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I have no idea, how Univision could put up with someone, who spends
24/7 on message boards, or maybe he doesn't even work.

I don't know how long it takes you to think through a brief response, but if
I sepnd 30 minutes a day on Usenet, that's a lot. Last I checked, most
people have 2/3 of the day and all the weekend free to do whatever they
want... or about 128 hours of free time a week.

His sole
existence in life is to try and make others miserable

... no, only to those who post material that is not factual, such as your
mistaken claims that AM news / talk stations get higher rates than FMs or
that AM in general is prospering.

- this IBOC
shill would love to put an end to SW and AM DX'ers, to the sole gain
of HD Radio/IBOC.

This is the first time SW has come into0 the argument. I think SW of its own
is dead in most of the world, and is certainly, being skywave based, not an
apprpriate medium for HD.

AM DXers are now very few in number, and hardly have any claim to skywave
service when improving hte viability of AM at the local level is concerned.
Hey, it's a hobby, not an essential service.

To his displeasure, SW and analog AM will be around
for many years,

SW stations numbber perhaps half of the level of the 70's...

AM is dying. In Canada, they have reduced the station count by nearly 60%.
South Africa has no AMs left, etc. The listenership in the US dis down to a
small level, mostly composed of people over 50. Folks under 40 very nearly
do not listen at all to AM.

as HD Radio/IBOC is failing on AM, and will just end
up being a niche market for radio-geeks.

Actually, the viable metro signals will all be HD. It does not matter what
the marginal signals do, as they represent no listenership.

Here is an interesting on-
going poll by BMW owners, who are interested in buying either Sirius,
or HD Radio:

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=152874

This shill realizes that for HD Radio/IBOC to succeed, in part, he
needs to convince the radio-geeks - you would think by now, with all
the hatred towards IBOC, he would have gotten a clue. He spreads the
sames lies on radio-info.com.

HD was just launched in 2006... and we all believe it to be a multi-year
building process, not a quick fix. It may never fix AM, however, as the band
is nearly dead.



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"In-Stat: Digital Radio Set to Take Off"

"In 2006, 73 percent of respondents to an In-Stat U.S. consumer survey
were aware of HD Radio on some level."

http://beradio.com/eyeoniboc/instat-digital-radio-set/

"Sirius, XM, and HD: Consumer interest reality check" (Alexaholic)

"While interest in satellite radio is diminishing, interest in HD
shows no signs of a pulse."

http://www.hear2.com/2007/02/sirius_....html#comments

This just confirms, the lack of interest for HD Radio, on Google
Trends:

http://www.google.com/trends?q=%22hd... =all&date=all

Taking off - HD Radio/IBOC has had its wings clipped ! ;-)

On Feb 19, 1:45?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message

ps.com...



I have no idea, how Univision could put up with someone, who spends
24/7 on message boards, or maybe he doesn't even work.

I don't know how long it takes you to think through a brief response, but if
I sepnd 30 minutes a day on Usenet, that's a lot. Last I checked, most
people have 2/3 of the day and all the weekend free to do whatever they
want... or about 128 hours of free time a week.

His sole
existence in life is to try and make others miserable

... no, only to those who post material that is not factual, such as your
mistaken claims that AM news / talk stations get higher rates than FMs or
that AM in general is prospering.

- this IBOC
shill would love to put an end to SW and AM DX'ers, to the sole gain
of HD Radio/IBOC.

This is the first time SW has come into0 the argument. I think SW of its own
is dead in most of the world, and is certainly, being skywave based, not an
apprpriate medium for HD.

AM DXers are now very few in number, and hardly have any claim to skywave
service when improving hte viability of AM at the local level is concerned.
Hey, it's a hobby, not an essential service.

To his displeasure, SW and analog AM will be around
for many years,

SW stations numbber perhaps half of the level of the 70's...

AM is dying. In Canada, they have reduced the station count by nearly 60%.
South Africa has no AMs left, etc. The listenership in the US dis down to a
small level, mostly composed of people over 50. Folks under 40 very nearly
do not listen at all to AM.

as HD Radio/IBOC is failing on AM, and will just end
up being a niche market for radio-geeks.

Actually, the viable metro signals will all be HD. It does not matter what
the marginal signals do, as they represent no listenership.

Here is an interesting on-
going poll by BMW owners, who are interested in buying either Sirius,
or HD Radio:

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=152874

This shill realizes that for HD Radio/IBOC to succeed, in part, he
needs to convince the radio-geeks - you would think by now, with all
the hatred towards IBOC, he would have gotten a clue. He spreads the
sames lies on radio-info.com.

HD was just launched in 2006... and we all believe it to be a multi-year
building process, not a quick fix. It may never fix AM, however, as the band
is nearly dead.



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Yea shill, the AM band is so dead:

http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/amq?state...2=&EW=W&size=9

I must admit, I have never seen anyone so full-of-**** ! :-)

wrote in message
oups.com...

Yea shill, the AM band is so dead:

http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/amq?state...2=&EW=W&size=9

I must admit, I have never seen anyone so full-of-**** ! :-)

You totally miss the main point: AM is declining in audience in the US,
having less than 20% of what it had 40 years ago... Most AMs have an
audience significantly based in over-55-year-olds, which agency advertisers
do not want. Revenues are falling, and many successful AMs are looking to
move their formats to FM to survive.

Canada is eliminating all but a few AMs, and at least one province has no
AMs at all any more. South Africa has no AMs. Most of Latin America has
fewer AMs than 25 years ago, with the exception of Mexico which was always
under-radioed due to NARBA.

The share of listening by 12-34 year olds given to AM is less than 8%....
with 92% and over going to FM.

On Feb 19, 5:54 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message

oups.com...



Yea shill, the AM band is so dead:

http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/amq?state...freq=530&fre2=...

I must admit, I have never seen anyone so full-of-**** ! :-)

You totally miss the main point: AM is declining in audience in the US,
having less than 20% of what it had 40 years ago... Most AMs have an
audience significantly based in over-55-year-olds, which agency advertisers
do not want. Revenues are falling, and many successful AMs are looking to
move their formats to FM to survive.

Canada is eliminating all but a few AMs, and at least one province has no
AMs at all any more. South Africa has no AMs. Most of Latin America has
fewer AMs than 25 years ago, with the exception of Mexico which was always
under-radioed due to NARBA.

DE - NARBA ? ? ? ~ RHF
North American Radio Broadcasting Agreement -Cirica 1941-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_A...ting_Agreement

NARBA "Clear Channel" AM/MW Radio Stations
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clear_channel

AM/MW Station Classes : Clear, Regional, and Local Channels
http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/amclasses.html

BIG USA, Mexico, and Canadian AM/MW Radio Stations
-compiled by- AC6V
http://www.ac6v.com/clearam.htm

MAP - Night-Time AM/MW 50 KW Powerhouses in the USA
http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/bl...rp/amradio.htm

READ - AM Radio Station Info : Radio-Locator + FCC +
Where's That Station + AM {Medium Wave} DXing +
Prime Time Shortwave + NASWA WWW Shortwave
Listening Guide and a lot more . . .
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...34e3c158b06fa5

and now i know ~ RHF

On Feb 19, 1:45?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message

ps.com...



I have no idea, how Univision could put up with someone, who spends
24/7 on message boards, or maybe he doesn't even work.

I don't know how long it takes you to think through a brief response, but if
I sepnd 30 minutes a day on Usenet, that's a lot. Last I checked, most
people have 2/3 of the day and all the weekend free to do whatever they
want... or about 128 hours of free time a week.

His sole
existence in life is to try and make others miserable

... no, only to those who post material that is not factual, such as your
mistaken claims that AM news / talk stations get higher rates than FMs or
that AM in general is prospering.

- this IBOC
shill would love to put an end to SW and AM DX'ers, to the sole gain
of HD Radio/IBOC.

This is the first time SW has come into0 the argument. I think SW of its own
is dead in most of the world, and is certainly, being skywave based, not an
apprpriate medium for HD.

AM DXers are now very few in number, and hardly have any claim to skywave
service when improving hte viability of AM at the local level is concerned.
Hey, it's a hobby, not an essential service.

To his displeasure, SW and analog AM will be around
for many years,

SW stations numbber perhaps half of the level of the 70's...

AM is dying. In Canada, they have reduced the station count by nearly 60%.
South Africa has no AMs left, etc. The listenership in the US dis down to a
small level, mostly composed of people over 50. Folks under 40 very nearly
do not listen at all to AM.

as HD Radio/IBOC is failing on AM, and will just end
up being a niche market for radio-geeks.

Actually, the viable metro signals will all be HD. It does not matter what
the marginal signals do, as they represent no listenership.

Here is an interesting on-
going poll by BMW owners, who are interested in buying either Sirius,
or HD Radio:

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=152874

This shill realizes that for HD Radio/IBOC to succeed, in part, he
needs to convince the radio-geeks - you would think by now, with all
the hatred towards IBOC, he would have gotten a clue. He spreads the
sames lies on radio-info.com.

HD was just launched in 2006... and we all believe it to be a multi-year
building process, not a quick fix. It may never fix AM, however, as the band
is nearly dead.



- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"In-Stat: Digital Radio Set to Take Off"

"In 2006, 73 percent of respondents to an In-Stat U.S. consumer survey
were aware of HD Radio on some level."

http://beradio.com/eyeoniboc/instat-digital-radio-set/

"Sirius, XM, and HD: Consumer interest reality check" (Alexaholic)

"While interest in satellite radio is diminishing, interest in HD
shows no signs of a pulse."

http://www.hear2.com/2007/02/sirius_....html#comments

Alexaholic:

1) http://www.alexaholic.com/hdradio.com+/

2) http://www.alexaholic.com/hdradio.com+ibiquity.com

3) http://www.alexaholic.com/hdradio.co...om+xmradio.com

4) http://www.alexaholic.com/hdradio.co...n.com+xbox.com

Google Trends:

1) http://www.google.com/trends?q=%22hd+radio%22

2) http://www.google.com/trends?q=%22hd...22%2C+ibiquity

3) http://www.google.com/trends?q=%22hd... =all&date=all

It's over, David - but, how can something be dead, when it wasn't even
born ? :-)

AGENDA

"I have been researching/posting on this subject for a year, and have a
zillion links set up, and know exactly how and where to find information, to
counter little punks like you and David Edurado"

-- amazing how much time you have wasted in your old age --

"A recent Arbitron/Edison Media Research study found that more than
one-third of Americans are interested in HD Radio, but nearly half said
they
would only purchase an HD Radio if it cost $100 or less."

http://www.hdradio.com

RW: What are your thoughts about whether or how AM should go digital at
night?

Mathews: I think there are problematic issues. The long and short of it is
a
lot of AM stations, just like FMs, have been getting reception in areas
where they aren't really technically protected. . But, at some point .
they'
re going to have to give up what they've been sort of getting for free all
this time anyway, that sort of non-protected listening area. .

[TRANLATION (in the voice of Don La Fontaine): AM IBOC DXing IS FOR REAL!]

RW: Because AM has to go digital at night. .

Mathews: It's one of those things where everybody is saying, "It can't
happen."
And I've said this from the beginning on HD, none of this is a question of
"If," it's a question of "When."

RW: Do your listeners notice when you go digital?

Mathews: They have no concept unless they have an HD Radio.

http://www.rwonline.com/pages/s.0049/t.352.html

Just as " has no concept.