D Peter Maus wrote:
ve3... wrote:
On May 12, 6:27 pm, Telamon
wrote:
Would you please stop the USA VS Canada crap posts.

Telamon
Ventura, California
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I know the truth hurts and you want it to all go away. It is simple.
Stop posting insults to Canada and I will stop replying. Please note
that all my posts have been provoked. I have much better things to do
but if an insult is posted, I will reply in kind.





Since Telamon doesn't post insults until insulted, your argument is
very much the 5 year old screaming, "Mom!--He hit me back FIRST."


Since this BS originated north of the border....if you stop, he will
have nothing to pursue. If you stop, Ace will have nothing to which me
might respond.


I know the truth hurts and you want desperately to be blameless, but,
it's simple....you're not.


Stop your gratuitous shots at the US, and the in-kind replies will stop.

I suppose you come by it honestly. When your PM levies personal
insults at our President, it kind of becomes national policy.

Fortunately, he's not PM anymore. Personally, I couldn't stand the bast*rd!


Pretty hypocritical to live off the fat of our economy, while
insulting our officials. Especially in light of the US involvement in
thwarting the attack on a Canadian city.

Keep it up, and we'll send back Shatner.


We'll take Shatner off your hands and you get to keep Celine Dion.

Checkmate.

JB

"ve3..." wrote:

Believe me that this Canadian could insult you so bad that you would
end up curled up in a corner in a fetal position sucking your thumb.
But I think you are a peacemaker so I would never do it. Best Regards.

http://www.hamiltonspectator.com/NAS...=1112188062620

It's lonely being pro-American in Canada -- and sometimes at a dinner
party, after a good ration of wine, slightly dangerous.

But why should it be so?

The friendliest city I've ever walked in -- and I've visited scores on
five continents -- is New York. The most pristine beach I've ever
stood on is in Florida. The best food I've ever eaten -- sorry Italy,
France! -- is in California's Sonoma Valley.

Still, you won't hear many people admit that.

No, we love to hate America -- and Americans.

We sniff that our medical system is superior to theirs, then sneak
down to their world-class clinics when we fall sick.

We call ourselves peacemakers and Americans warmongers -- but do the
math on peacekeeping assignments and the United States comes out
ahead. It picks up 26 per cent of the annual $5 billion budget for UN
Peacekeeping, and despite the fact it's slightly distracted by the war
in Iraq, it currently has twice as many UN peacekeepers in the field
as Canada.

Meanwhile, we sniff our disdain for Hollywood movies, though we attend
them in droves (as we should, they make some of the best) -- while
completely ignoring our own.

And as author, journalist and Carleton University professor Andrew
Cohen points out in his intelligently argued and entertaining new
book, The Unfinished Canadian (McClelland & Stewart, $29.99), which
delivers both amusing and incredible insight into the Canadian psyche,
we're not afraid to attack Americans -- not only when we're wrong, but
when we know we're wrong.

Consider former Prime Minister Paul Martin's 2005 election campaign
"chiding" of the US over its commitment to the Kyoto accord.

"The United States lacked 'a global conscience' for reneging on its
obligations under Kyoto," he said, though America's emissions have
risen 13 per cent since 1990 while ours are up 24 per cent.

"Rebuking the Americans on Kyoto -- fully aware that Canada's record
was even worse than America's -- was trafficking in hyperbole and
hypocrisy," Cohen notes. So why do it? Anti-Americanism wins votes.

And we think their politicians are pathetic?

How about our snobbery that we're multiculturalists and bilingual
("Quoi?" dit le Quebec!) -- and they're not. Consider, Cohen asks,
that of the 41 million Hispanics in the United States, 31 million
speak Spanish at home, and that automatic tellers in major cities
provide instructions in Spanish and English, as ours do in English and
French. Or that "in 1973, 78 per cent of students in public schools
were white, and 22 per cent were minorities while in 2004, 57 per cent
were white and 43 per cent were minorities." Or how about this: A 2005
Ipsos-Reid poll reported: "When asked whether people from diverse
backgrounds would be better off if they became more like the majority,
44 per cent of Canadians said yes in contrast to 38 per cent of
Americans."

"Is this a melting pot?" Cohen asks rhetorically. Say no more.

Here's another: They're fat and we're fit! Ahem. Cohen reports half of
Americans are fat, while a third of Canadians are. And, alarmingly, he
says: "The rate of growth in obesity is about the same on both sides
of the border." And I've interviewed Canadian obesity experts who say
our adult obesity rate is already at the halfway mark, and that 37 per
cent of our children are also overweight. So who's calling whom fat?

While myth bashing quickly gets the point across, Cohen's chapter on
the American Canadian (the others he analyzes are the Hybrid,
Observed, Unconscious, Casual, Capital, Chameleon and Future
Canadians) also makes a strong analytical case that suggests our
values are converging with those of Americans.

In the end, the American-Canadian "watches American movies and
television, wears American jeans, listens to American music, reads
American books and magazines.

"He drinks coffee at Starbucks, eats hamburgers at McDonald's and ice
cream at Ben and Jerry's," Cohen notes. "He aspires to the American
Dream, whether it is represented by minivan or an SUV, and the
greatest obstacle to achieving it isn't desire but money."

Oh yeah, they're better at creating wealth -- which they use to feed
the world, promote democracy and human rights, and defend the free
world -- than we are. Now there's a difference we can be proud of.

In short, Cohen points out: "If Canadians were really anti-American,
we would have to denounce ourselves, or everything about our country
and our place in it."

So how does he define us? "We are contradictory, inconsistent and,
yes, occasionally hypocritical."

In short, we're not so different from Americans as we may like to
believe. And those of us who value the freedoms that attract refugees
and immigrants the world over think that's a good thing.

Vive l'Amerique libre!

Dianne Rinehart is a Toronto-based writer.

dxAcehole wrote:

Nah, keep opening your dumbass mouth and I'll keep besting you.


A legend in your own mind.

Surprisingly, the rest of the world sees you as an obnoxious and
arrogant little man.


Spare us your ever so predictable 'Canada oriented' twist on the above
line.







mike

John Barnard wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:
ve3... wrote:
On May 12, 6:27 pm, Telamon
wrote:
Would you please stop the USA VS Canada crap posts.

Telamon
Ventura, California
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" """""""""
I know the truth hurts and you want it to all go away. It is simple.
Stop posting insults to Canada and I will stop replying. Please note
that all my posts have been provoked. I have much better things to do
but if an insult is posted, I will reply in kind.





Since Telamon doesn't post insults until insulted, your argument is
very much the 5 year old screaming, "Mom!--He hit me back FIRST."


Since this BS originated north of the border....if you stop, he
will have nothing to pursue. If you stop, Ace will have nothing to
which me might respond.


I know the truth hurts and you want desperately to be blameless,
but, it's simple....you're not.


Stop your gratuitous shots at the US, and the in-kind replies will
stop.

I suppose you come by it honestly. When your PM levies personal
insults at our President, it kind of becomes national policy.

Fortunately, he's not PM anymore. Personally, I couldn't stand the bast*rd!


Pretty hypocritical to live off the fat of our economy, while
insulting our officials. Especially in light of the US involvement in
thwarting the attack on a Canadian city.

Keep it up, and we'll send back Shatner.


We'll take Shatner off your hands and you get to keep Celine Dion.


LOL! Now that's just plain mean.

On May 7, 8:43 pm, wrote:
RHF,believe it or not,last night I was saying to meself,,,,, Self,lets
me find my old Rand McNalley Road Atlas and look up the
Rivers,Streams,other bodies of Water that flows from Canada on down
South into the good old U.S.A.
But since you already said it for me, (sort of kind of anyway) that's
good enough.

There are at least two Rivers I know of for sure in America which flow
North.The St.Johns River in Florida (my half acre of land I own in
Putnam County,Florida is seven miles West of the St.Johns River,,,
Palatka,Florida,East Palatka,Florida) and I think the other one is the
Illinois River,Chicagoland area.There might be one or two more Rivers in
America that flow Northward.Thank GOD they don't flow into Canada.
cuhulin

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How did I miss this? The Red River flows north into Manitoba from
Minnesota/ north Dakota and the Belly river flows into Alberta from
Montana.

Eric F. Richards wrote:

It's lonely being pro-American in Canada -- and sometimes
at a dinner
party, after a good ration of wine, slightly dangerous.

But why should it be so?

The friendliest city I've ever walked in -- and I've visited scores
on
five continents -- is New York. The most pristine beach I've ever
stood on is in Florida. The best food I've ever eaten -- sorry
Italy,
France! -- is in California's Sonoma Valley.

Still, you won't hear many people admit that.

No, we love to hate America -- and Americans.

We sniff that our medical system is superior to theirs, then sneak
down to their world-class clinics when we fall sick.

snip
Cato replys:

Thankyou Eric, for a fine post. Yes, there are actually a lot
of Canadians who do not hate the States. We have spent a good part of
our lives in the States, either living part of the year there, or
travelling, or visiting American relatives. We know something about
the States and American people that America hating Canadians don't.
Maybe we have some sort of an understanding of the States, we have
studied their history, we spend time with American citizens, and get
to know them.
And we also know something of Canada and Canada's history, and how
the two countries compare in reality, and how they have gotten along
together over the years.
I don't know all the reasons. But I do know that I love both the
United States, and Canada. I have loved them both since I was a child,
and I am now fifty-five. So that love will never change for this
Canadian. It is just a few ignorant jerks in each country that try to
drive a wedge between us, and try to create hate. I am not sure what
we can do about them.

Cato

THE WIT AND WISDOM OF THE USA VS CANADA REC RAD POSTS

I have selected comments from this thread. Can you identify the
author?
The list of usual suspects. M II, Telemon, RHF, Maus, Cuhulin, DxAce,
Cato, Beerbar, Tootles, VE3, miki.

(1) I don't spend my time meddling in the affairs of another
country....I'm 47 and will be returning for my third trip (tour of
duty) soon.

(2) The rest of the world should damn well fear us Americans

(3) If you really understood economics you'd shut your pie hole.

(4) It's a mean world out there-and-the big boys play the game of
hardball with the heads of the meek.

(5) If you are expecting any kind of factual rebuttal from the name-
callers, please don't hold your breath.

(6) My only hope is that most Americans do not forget the principles
on which their country was founded.

(7) DxAce is a prime example. A real stupid idiotic jerk and he keeps
proving it every time he opens his mouth.

(8) Youre a real stupid idiotic Canuck.

(9) Stop whining, pay attention, run along, and get a cb radio.

(10) Other than a pile of empty bottles, you have absolutely nothing
going for you yet you are extremely impolite.

(11) Would you please stop the USA vs Canada crap posts.

(12) I am not a redneck.

(13) HOOHOOHOOHAWHAW....erk...koff...koff

The answers will be posted in a day or two. In reviewing the thread, I
was impressed by the effort many had put into composing something
useful. May their tribe increase.

m II wrote:

dxAcehole wrote:

Nah, keep opening your dumbass mouth and I'll keep besting you.

A legend in your own mind.

Surprisingly, the rest of the world sees you as an obnoxious and
arrogant little man.

Spare us your ever so predictable 'Canada oriented' twist on the above
line.

Can't handle it?

The Niagara river which flows from Lake Erie, northward, up and over
Niagara Falls, through the Niagara gorge and out into Lake Ontario. Water
does flow uphill!
"ve3..." wrote in message
ups.com...
On May 7, 8:43 pm, wrote:
RHF,believe it or not,last night I was saying to meself,,,,, Self,lets
me find my old Rand McNalley Road Atlas and look up the
Rivers,Streams,other bodies of Water that flows from Canada on down
South into the good old U.S.A.
But since you already said it for me, (sort of kind of anyway) that's
good enough.

There are at least two Rivers I know of for sure in America which flow
North.The St.Johns River in Florida (my half acre of land I own in
Putnam County,Florida is seven miles West of the St.Johns River,,,
Palatka,Florida,East Palatka,Florida) and I think the other one is the
Illinois River,Chicagoland area.There might be one or two more Rivers in
America that flow Northward.Thank GOD they don't flow into Canada.
cuhulin

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How did I miss this? The Red River flows north into Manitoba from
Minnesota/ north Dakota and the Belly river flows into Alberta from
Montana.

On May 14, 9:55 pm, Cato wrote:
O.K., look! This is something that we should give some grown-up
thought to......
Al Quada has a list of countries to be targetted. There
are ten countries on the list. Among the targets is the U.S.A., and
Canada.
These characters are suicidal maniacs, but also they have a bit
of idiotic cleverness.
Don't you think it is possible that they would use every means
available to sow dissension among us, their enemies?
Don't you think they want us to argue and fight among ourselves?
What better way to weaken your enemy then to get your various
enemies to fight and hate each other?

Maybe we have a couple guys on this list working for Al Quada or
other Muslim extremists, trying to drive a wedge between Americans and
Canadians?
They do have access to the internet, just as we do. Just a
thought.
Cato
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It's a good thought as we have had some suspected paid agents posting
on the site, but I am inclined to think that the current denizens of
ths site are what they seem. However, the results are much the same:
dissention and argument.