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On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 05:55:41 GMT, "David Eduardo"
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DE - That was "KOAC" 550 kHz - in Corvallis, OR
- which is part of the Oregon Public Radio System.

DE - I am simply reporting on what I 'observed'
last night on the Radio.


Night HD is still not authorized. The FCC approved, but we are waiting for
the publication in the Federal register for the FCC to give the go-ahead.

KFI, for example, has not had HD on since their tower fell over 2 and a
half
years ago.

Why don't they fix it? They need to put up an antenna like KNBR's.


Zoning. FAA, etc. Still no permit to build, but likely replacing the 770
foot tower with a 660 foot top loaded one at same site in 4 to 6 months.
Station will move to the former Montecito Heights KRKD location at low power
for the time it takes to put up the tower.


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On Jun 20, 7:49 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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On Jun 19, 10:55 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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DE - That was "KOAC" 550 kHz - in Corvallis, OR
- which is part of the Oregon Public Radio System.


DE - I am simply reporting on what I 'observed'
last night on the Radio.


Night HD is still not authorized. The FCC approved, but we are waiting
for
the publication in the Federal register for the FCC to give the go-ahead.


KFI, for example, has not had HD on since their tower fell over 2 and a
half
years ago.


DE,


I am only reporting on what the Blinking Blue Light
on the Radiosophy "HD100" Radio is telling me.


digital, Digital. DIGITAL ! - Is In The House ~ RHF


The light may be flashing due to something else the radio is doing or
picking up. None of the stations you list is currently authorized for night
HD. And, like I said, the KFI transmitter is not even installed with HD
capability.- Hide quoted text -

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OK - Ring Ring Ring - Hello K-Mart . . .
are you having a Blue Light Special ?

~ RHF
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On Jun 19, 10:55 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:


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DE - That was "KOAC" 550 kHz - in Corvallis, OR
- which is part of the Oregon Public Radio System.


DE - I am simply reporting on what I 'observed'
last night on the Radio.


Night HD is still not authorized. The FCC approved, but we are waiting for
the publication in the Federal register for the FCC to give the go-ahead.


KFI, for example, has not had HD on since their tower fell over 2 and a half
years ago.


DE,


I am only reporting on what the Blinking Blue Light
on the Radiosophy "HD100" Radio is telling me.


digital, Digital. DIGITAL ! - Is In The House ~ RHF
.
.
. .


That blinking blue light means you are out-of-luck, a dumb-ass for
buying an HD radio, and supporting the destuction of the AM broadcast
band !- Hide quoted text -

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ibocisacr,

IBOC - Makes $en$e in the FM Band
and the jury is still out for a few years
as to whether IBOC will be a bust -or-
the destruction of the AM/MW Band.

Clearly for "Rural" Radio Listeners the Digital
part of the AM & FM Broadcast Signal will
have to be increased to reach the Listeners
on the Fringe of the Radio Stations range.

Phasing in and Increase of the Digital Signal over
Time would ease the Transition to HD Radio.
First Year 1% Digital
Second Year 2% Digital
Third Year 4% Digital
Fourth Year 8% Digital
Fifth Year 16% Digital
A 16% Digital Signal should give a HD Radio
Station a Signal Coverage Area far better then
their present Analog Signal Coverage Area.

of course that is just a dumb-ass opinion ~ RHF
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Phasing in and Increase of the Digital Signal over
Time would ease the Transition to HD Radio.
First Year 1% Digital
Second Year 2% Digital
Third Year 4% Digital
Fourth Year 8% Digital
Fifth Year 16% Digital
A 16% Digital Signal should give a HD Radio
Station a Signal Coverage Area far better then
their present Analog Signal Coverage Area.


Based on actually working with 40 or so HD stations, the current HD signal,
on AM, covers to at least the same usable and used coverage area the analog
signal reaches, sometimes more. On FM, it also reaches the same area where
nearly all actual listening happens.


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Phasing in and Increase of the Digital Signal over
Time would ease the Transition to HD Radio.
First Year 1% Digital
Second Year 2% Digital
Third Year 4% Digital
Fourth Year 8% Digital
Fifth Year 16% Digital
A 16% Digital Signal should give a HD Radio
Station a Signal Coverage Area far better then
their present Analog Signal Coverage Area.


Based on actually working with 40 or so HD stations, the current HD
signal, on AM, covers to at least the same usable and used coverage area
the analog signal reaches, sometimes more. On FM, it also reaches the same
area where nearly all actual listening happens.


There you go again saying that only those inside your precious city grade
contours count as listeners. Probably 40-50 million people in the US would
beg to differ.





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Phasing in and Increase of the Digital Signal over
Time would ease the Transition toHD Radio.
First Year 1% Digital
Second Year 2% Digital
Third Year 4% Digital
Fourth Year 8% Digital
Fifth Year 16% Digital
A 16% Digital Signal should give aHD Radio
Station a Signal Coverage Area far better then
their present Analog Signal Coverage Area.


Based on actually working with 40 or so HD stations, the current HD signal,
on AM, covers to at least the same usable and used coverage area the analog
signal reaches, sometimes more. On FM, it also reaches the same area where
nearly all actual listening happens.


"HD Radio's Dirty Little Secret"

"Nope, the dirty little secret is that HD Radio's coverage is far less
than regular analog radio. About 60% of analog radio's reach even."

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/hd...le-secret.html

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On Jun 21, 9:04 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:





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Phasing in and Increase of the Digital Signal over
Time would ease the Transition toHD Radio.
First Year 1% Digital
Second Year 2% Digital
Third Year 4% Digital
Fourth Year 8% Digital
Fifth Year 16% Digital
A 16% Digital Signal should give aHD Radio
Station a Signal Coverage Area far better then
their present Analog Signal Coverage Area.


Based on actually working with 40 or so HD stations, the current HD signal,
on AM, covers to at least the same usable and used coverage area the analog
signal reaches, sometimes more. On FM, it also reaches the same area where
nearly all actual listening happens.


DE - So your Answer to Rural Folks is let them
Listen to XM or Sirius Satellite Radio for High
Quality Digital Sound. ~ RHF

IMHO - A 1 KW Analog AM/MW Radio Station
which is only putting out a 10 Watt Digital (1%)
Signal is wasting the time going Digital.

That goes for a 5 KW Analog AM/MW Radio Station
which is only putting out a 50 Watt Digital (1%)
Signal is wasting the time going Digital.

That goes for a 15 KW Analog AM/MW Radio Station
which is only putting out a 150 Watt Digital (1%)
Signal is wasting the time going Digital.

That goes for a 50 KW Analog AM/MW Radio Station
which is only putting out a 500 Watt Digital (1%)
Signal is wasting the time going Digital.

TV with it's finite end to Analog Broadcasting
should be a clear example of what "HD" Radio
has to do to force the Transition from Analog
to Digital.
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LOL ! If the FCC tried to force all-digital, there would be anti-
trust lawsuits against the FCC and iBiquity, plus consumers have zero
interest in HD Radio, so no one would be listening:

http://www.google.com/trends?q=%22hd...+xm%2C+podcast

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This morning on his radio talk show, www.supertalkms.com 97.3 FM
on my radio dial, Paul Gallo said 81 percent of talk radio is
conservative talk radio.Oviously, Commie Fascist Nazi Traitor trent lott
doesn't like that at all.A few mornings ago, Traitor trent lott phoned
Paul Gallo (Paul Gallo is as Conservative as anybody can be) and Traitor
trent lott told Paul Gallo that it doesn't make any difference how many
times Mississippians complain (phone calls/faxes/emails) his mind is
made up about illegal aliens.Traitor trent lott used to be a democrap.
www.devilfinder.com trent lott: Talk radio is running America
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DE - So your Answer to Rural Folks is let them
Listen to XM or Sirius Satellite Radio for High
Quality Digital Sound. ~ RHF


Again, the HD signal is digital. There is no 1:1 power comparison. Much
lower powers are effective in digital.


That goes for a 50 KW Analog AM/MW Radio Station
which is only putting out a 500 Watt Digital (1%)
Signal is wasting the time going Digital.


Our experience with a number of 50 kw AMs in HD is that the HD is often
listenable beyond the listenable and usable analog range.



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