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"charlie" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:
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As to youth, 96% of 12-24 year olds use radio. Less than before? Yes. But
radio is still a very viable means to reach young adult demographics.



Is that really true?

Yep, comes right out of Arbitron data in the first two People Meter markets.

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"RHF" wrote in message
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On Sep 3, 9:31 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message

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That would only be a couple of blocks around the 50K station antenna
with Eduardo's 10V/meter contour. Whatever that means.


- You don't know what a 10 mv/m contour is?

DE - According to you :

The People that Count live with-in the 10mv/m Contour.

The People that Do Not Count live out-side the 10mv/m Contour.
- - - DXers being the a significant percentage
of the People that Do Not Count.

No, just simply stating the facts from tens of thousands of Arbitron diaries
and ZIP code analysis of multiple markets... most listening to AM is inside
the 10 mv/m contour. Outside, there is nearly no listening at all.

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"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
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So, you didn't take them up on their offer with a different radio?


Nope, it was much larger, and defeated the purpose of having the little one.

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"RHF" wrote in message
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Yes "HD" FM Radio does not deliever a good strong
signal beyond the 54-60 dBu Contour an many areas
with-in it too.

And metro area FMs get essentially no analog listening beyond the 64 dBu
contour.

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"Telamon" wrote in message
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So try again marketing hack. Explain the terms you use to express what
it takes for good reception.

"Good reception" is a perception of the listener, not a technical term.
However, based on an enormous amount of data over many many years it can be
seen that outside the 10 mv/m contours of an AM or outside the 64 dBu
contours of an FM, listeners are not interested in tuning in to any
station... there is very close to no reported listening, in fact.

A good example, which obviates "well, at the fringe of a metro, there are
less people to listen" is to take stations that do not fully cover the most
densely populated parts of a metro. On FM, we have looked at over 30 survey
periods in LA with a total sample of over 7000 persons per survey and
plotted the returns for KRCD and KRCV, which are class A FMs. There is
nearly no listening at home or at work outside the 64 dBu contours during
the last 8 years, despite the stations frequently being in the top 10
(simulcast) in LA... all the listening is in a very small area.

Years ago, we looked at the same thing for AMs in general, and found that
the 10 mv/m was the barrier to sustained listening, and, of recent, perhaps
the 15 mv/m is the limit where listeners consider a station listenable.

People listen if the signal is strong, easy to tune, and free of nose,
fading, etc. It's totally subjective, but can be easily quantified.

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"Telamon" wrote in message
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"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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That would only be a couple of blocks around the 50K station antenna
with Eduardo's 10V/meter contour. Whatever that means.

You don't know what a 10 mv/m contour is?

I don't know what YOU mean by 10 mV/m contour. Care to elaborate?

Be sue not to mix up the u's and V's.

You are doing the equivalent of a spelling flame.... nobody cares in this
context which letters are capitalized.

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David Eduardo wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
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So, you didn't take them up on their offer with a different radio?


Nope, it was much larger, and defeated the purpose of having the little one.





MyFi has been re-released. I recommend it. So far, no disappointments
in my own travels.

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On Sep 4, 9:27 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"RHF" wrote in message

ps.com...


- - Yes "HD" FM Radio does not deliever a good strong
- - signal beyond the 54-60 dBu Contour an many areas
- - with-in it too.

- And metro area FMs get essentially no analog
- listening beyond the 64 dBu contour.

yeah Yeah YEAH ! - DE We Know We Know

We Don't Count as a Sellable Number.

AM Radio Listener 'life' exists beyond the 10mv/m Contour.

FM Radio Listener 'life' exists beyond the 64 dBu Contour.

all i see is the blinking blue light ~ RHF
{ life beyond the 10mv/m contour }

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On Sep 5, 12:25 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"charlie" wrote in message

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David Eduardo wrote:
SNIP

As to youth, 96% of 12-24 year olds use radio. Less than before? Yes. But
radio is still a very viable means to reach young adult demographics.

Is that really true?

Yep, comes right out of Arbitron data in the first two People Meter markets.

You're in a pickle!

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On Sep 5, 12:26 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"RHF" wrote in message

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On Sep 3, 9:31 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message

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That would only be a couple of blocks around the 50K station antenna
with Eduardo's 10V/meter contour. Whatever that means.

- You don't know what a 10 mv/m contour is?

DE - According to you :

The People that Count live with-in the 10mv/m Contour.

The People that Do Not Count live out-side the 10mv/m Contour.
- - - DXers being the a significant percentage
of the People that Do Not Count.

No, just simply stating the facts from tens of thousands of Arbitron diaries
and ZIP code analysis of multiple markets... most listening to AM is inside
the 10 mv/m contour. Outside, there is nearly no listening at all.- Hide quoted text -

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Stop clinging to the technology of yesteryear.