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Steve September 7th 07 12:41 PM

Ibiquity's "Gag Order" on engineers
 
On Sep 7, 12:00 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message

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How does 79.084 dBu compares to 9 mV/m? What is this dBu term? Please
explain what this means other than it being some line on a map. What
does this measurement mean for my radio reception?


I have no idea what it means for your radio reception.

The equivalent, by the way, comes from the handy conversion calculators the
FCC has on its website. Most of us in radio use mV/m for Am and dBu for FM
to plot contours.... and that is the way the FCC accepts applications.
Jeeze, I even cited a sample FCC filing map showing this.

For the average listener, the precise location of contours is irrelevant.
Either they get a station "well" or they don't. It's been proven with
boatloads of data that AM listeners are seldom found beyond the 10 mV/M
calculated contour of a station and beyond the 64 dBu contour for an FM.
when the signal is weaker than that, it appears that listeners don't find
listening to be pleasurable so they don't use stations with weaker signals.


I wish I could make young people throw away their ipods, their FM
radios, and just about everything else they're interested in so that
they would develop an interest in the amazing hgh and the programming
on your radio stations. However, that's just not realistic. You have
to face facts. You have to make some major changes, and a digital
paintjob ain't gonna do it. You're in a pickle!


David Eduardo[_4_] September 7th 07 01:14 PM

Ibiquity's "Gag Order" on engineers
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David "I lie my ass off whilst posing as 'Eduardo'", wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


No, that was a summer job at WCCW as board op for the Spanish show
from
about 1960 to 1962.

Uh-Huh.

David Eduardo wrote: Hell, also not mentioned was
working all summer at WFAB in
Miami in, I think, 1961


I never worked at WFAB.


Then why did you state that you did?


I stated I visited the sister station to the one for which I worked part
time; I worked for the same company, but never at WFAB.



David Eduardo[_4_] September 7th 07 01:16 PM

Ibiquity's "Gag Order" on engineers
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


dxAce wrote:

David "I lie my ass off whilst posing as 'Eduardo'", wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


No, that was a summer job at WCCW as board op for the Spanish show
from
about 1960 to 1962.

Uh-Huh.

David Eduardo wrote: Hell, also not mentioned was
working all summer at WFAB in
Miami in, I think, 1961

I never worked at WFAB.


Then why did you state that you did?

Moron.


In researching the record I find that you've variously stated that you
"visited"
WFAB and that you "worked" at WFAB for the summer.


I said I was there on a spring break, and met the manager, Tomás García
Fusté. That's it.



David Eduardo[_4_] September 7th 07 01:17 PM

Ibiquity's "Gag Order" on engineers
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


dxAce wrote:

dxAce wrote:

David "I lie my ass off whilst posing as 'Eduardo'", wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


No, that was a summer job at WCCW as board op for the Spanish
show from
about 1960 to 1962.

Uh-Huh.

David Eduardo wrote: Hell, also not mentioned was
working all summer at WFAB in
Miami in, I think, 1961

I never worked at WFAB.

Then why did you state that you did?

Moron.


In researching the record I find that you've variously stated that you
"visited"
WFAB and that you "worked" at WFAB for the summer.

So which is it? How many stations have you "visited" and have later
claimed to
have "worked" at?


Or "owned" for that matter?


The only stations I owned were those in Ecuador, including 4 AMs and 5 FMs
in Quito, and AMs in Cuenca, Ambato and a couple of other places in the
country as well as a partnership with Jaime Nebot Velasco for one in
Guayaquil.



dxAce September 7th 07 01:20 PM

Ibiquity's "Gag Order" on engineers
 


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David "I lie my ass off whilst posing as 'Eduardo'", wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


No, that was a summer job at WCCW as board op for the Spanish show
from
about 1960 to 1962.

Uh-Huh.

David Eduardo wrote: Hell, also not mentioned was
working all summer at WFAB in
Miami in, I think, 1961

I never worked at WFAB.


Then why did you state that you did?


I stated I visited the sister station to the one for which I worked part
time; I worked for the same company, but never at WFAB.


Not what you stated. Try again!



dxAce September 7th 07 01:22 PM

Ibiquity's "Gag Order" on engineers
 


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


dxAce wrote:

David "I lie my ass off whilst posing as 'Eduardo'", wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


No, that was a summer job at WCCW as board op for the Spanish show
from
about 1960 to 1962.

Uh-Huh.

David Eduardo wrote: Hell, also not mentioned was
working all summer at WFAB in
Miami in, I think, 1961

I never worked at WFAB.

Then why did you state that you did?

Moron.


In researching the record I find that you've variously stated that you
"visited"
WFAB and that you "worked" at WFAB for the summer.


I said I was there on a spring break, and met the manager, Tomás García
Fusté. That's it.


No, here is what you stated: "Hell, also not mentioned was
working all summer at WFAB in Miami in, I think, 1961. It was the sister station
of where I worked in Cleveland"

Try again, Mr. Pathological.



dxAce September 7th 07 01:24 PM

Ibiquity's "Gag Order" on engineers
 


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


dxAce wrote:

dxAce wrote:

David "I lie my ass off whilst posing as 'Eduardo'", wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


No, that was a summer job at WCCW as board op for the Spanish
show from
about 1960 to 1962.

Uh-Huh.

David Eduardo wrote: Hell, also not mentioned was
working all summer at WFAB in
Miami in, I think, 1961

I never worked at WFAB.

Then why did you state that you did?

Moron.

In researching the record I find that you've variously stated that you
"visited"
WFAB and that you "worked" at WFAB for the summer.

So which is it? How many stations have you "visited" and have later
claimed to
have "worked" at?


Or "owned" for that matter?


The only stations I owned were those in Ecuador, including 4 AMs and 5 FMs
in Quito, and AMs in Cuenca, Ambato and a couple of other places in the
country as well as a partnership with Jaime Nebot Velasco for one in
Guayaquil.


Mr. Gleason, you are full of ****. It's been proven time and time again that you
are nothing more than a sad little pathological SOB who will lie at the drop of
a sombrero.



David Eduardo[_4_] September 7th 07 01:27 PM

Ibiquity's "Gag Order" on engineers
 

"K Isham" wrote in message news:46e13315@kcnews01...
David Eduardo wrote:

I noticed you ignored my rant about my visit to Radio Shack to demo a "HD"
radio.


A lot of the early radios were simply bad. Now we are in the third
generation, and they are better but the really good things will come in
2008.

While HD may be improved, if you can't receive it while jogging, at work
or in the car where most of the people listen, how are you going to sell
it?


Samsung and others have announced new, low power chips for Q1 of 2008. These
will enable portable devices. Remember, portable CD players took 6 years to
get to the $100 price point.

Most radio listening, about 70%, is at work or in the home, not in the car.

Maybe you could interest the power that be, to utilize the HD signal to
download web - pages such as detours, traffic jams that would be
pertinent to the user, plus you could set it up for the user to interface
with the computer for products etc, not just a replay of the morning drive
time show. This will not happen unless your industry can come up with a
more flexible system.
Ken I


Data streams for all that sort of thing are coming. And the new iPod has HD
features:

"After 18 months of behind-the-scenes development, iBiquity and Apple have
connected radio to the iPod. It comes as Polk Audio releases the next
generation of its I-Sonic and the JBL iHD receivers. With this device,
listeners can "tag" songs they hear then buy the song via iTunes. Several
groups have already struck licensing deals with Apple. Is this the
technology breakthrough radio has been looking for?"



dxAce September 7th 07 06:05 PM

Ibiquity's "Gag Order" on engineers
 


David Eduardo wrote:

"Steve" wrote in message
ups.com...
I said I was there on a spring break, and met the manager, Tomás García
Fusté. That's it.- Hide quoted text -

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BUSTED!

Except for the minor fact that dxAss has fabricated a post.


Hogwash, Mr. Gleason, I fabricated nothing. Those are your own words.

You are merely nothing more than a sad little pathological SOB who will lie at
the drop of a sombrero.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



RHF September 7th 07 08:11 PM

(OT) : To Make AM/MW "HD" {IBOC} Radio 'Work' the AM/MW Band Needs A New Band Plan
 
On Sep 7, 4:41 am, Steve wrote:
On Sep 7, 12:00 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:





"Telamon" wrote in message


...


How does 79.084 dBu compares to 9 mV/m? What is this dBu term? Please
explain what this means other than it being some line on a map. What
does this measurement mean for my radio reception?


I have no idea what it means for your radio reception.


The equivalent, by the way, comes from the handy conversion calculators the
FCC has on its website. Most of us in radio use mV/m for Am and dBu for FM
to plot contours.... and that is the way the FCC accepts applications.
Jeeze, I even cited a sample FCC filing map showing this.


For the average listener, the precise location of contours is irrelevant.
Either they get a station "well" or they don't. It's been proven with
boatloads of data that AM listeners are seldom found beyond the 10 mV/M
calculated contour of a station and beyond the 64 dBu contour for an FM.
when the signal is weaker than that, it appears that listeners don't find
listening to be pleasurable so they don't use stations with weaker signals.


I wish I could make young people throw away their ipods, their FM
radios, and just about everything else they're interested in so that
they would develop an interest in the amazing hgh and the programming
on your radio stations. However, that's just not realistic. You have
to face facts. You have to make some major changes, and a digital
paintjob ain't gonna do it. You're in a pickle!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -



To Make AM/MW "HD" {IBOC} Radio 'Work' the
AM/MW Band Needs A New Band Plan :
- - - OTHERWISE DON'T DO IT [.]

# 1 - Designate all FM Radio Licensees as "Local" Radio
Service* Programming with-in an Expanded70 dBu Contour.
* The Key Word being Service to the "Local" Community;
NOT Marketing to the Consumers.

# 2 - Expand the FM Band into one of the soon to be
"Un-Used" VHF TV Channels.

# 3 - Migrate 50% to 67% of the current AM/MW Radio
Stations to the new Expanded FM Radio Band.

# 4 - Re-Define the AM/MW Band to 25 kHz Channel
"Spacing" with IBOC "HD" Radio at 10% ERP.
* Old Band Plan : 1700 - 540 = 1160 / 10 = 116 Channels
* New Band Plan : 1700 - 540 = 1160 / 25 = 46 Channels

# 5 - Transition to All "HD" Digital Radio within 5-Years
with all Analog Transmission ending by the end of 5-Years.

# 6 - Designate all AM/MW Radio Licensees as "Regional"
Radio Service* Programming with an Expanded 50 mv/m Contour.
* The Key Word being Service to the "Regional" Area
{State/States}; NOT Marketing to the Consumers.


that's the plan ~ RHF


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