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Why should more channels of the same content be something people would
want?

That's just it! The HD 2 channels in most markets are totally
non-duplicative of the Analog/HD1 channel content. NY has, for example,
things like traditional jazz, country, classic hip hop, 50's and early
60's
oldies, standards, etc. that are not available on main channels.

Why should formats that are not stations now be added as additional HD
channels. Where is the logic in that?

Because many formats are excluded because, with the finite number of FMs in
any market, there is not room for the second tier of formats. With HD 2
channels, there is.

I'm sorry, I fail to see the logic of your argument. Try again.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

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SFTV_troy wrote:

I don't really understand why people are upset about the loss of
DX'ing over AM (only temporarily; it will be restored when AM goes
pure digital). You can still do DX'ing via using services like
shoutcast.com. Just yesterday at work I was listening to an
Australian station. Another favorite of mine is located in England.
DX'ing is still alive and well on the internet.

Uh... that's NOT DX'ing.


It may well become the DXing of the 21st Century.

Edwina, you're an idiot.

It just looks that way to us DxAce because you and I don't share the
level of self delusion that Eduardo has attained.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

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I just do not believe your contention that the numbers of people that
listen to night time AMBCB are small. I think there is a great deal of
regional listening at night and non-local stations during the day where
reception is of good quality such as where I live on the coast. There
are plenty of people that listen to stations that are not local in order
to hear a program not broadcast locally.

There are no facts to support your contention. Listening to out of market
stations is very small (by the way, Ventura, Riverside West and San
Bernardino West are all in the LA DMA... the metro definition that matches
the TV metro area). Still, in your county, there is pretty limited in-market
listening to out of market stations.

You have no facts to support your contention since all the waking hours
revolve around the commercial radio books. The statistics you look at
don't address the regional listening. Now don't go back on the word of
your previous posts.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

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"David Eduardo" wrote:

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David Eduardo wrote:

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SFTV_troy wrote:

I don't really understand why people are upset about the loss of
DX'ing over AM (only temporarily; it will be restored when AM goes
pure digital). You can still do DX'ing via using services like
shoutcast.com. Just yesterday at work I was listening to an
Australian station. Another favorite of mine is located in England.
DX'ing is still alive and well on the internet.

Uh... that's NOT DX'ing.


It may well become the DXing of the 21st Century.

Edwina, you're an idiot.

I suppose it was my idea to discontinue the R8B? There was not enough
market, you fool.

It might have been an idea of yours. I'm not a mind reader.

I'm not the self delusional one here...fool.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

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On Sep 29, 6:20 pm, SFTV_troy wrote:
Steve wrote:
On Sep 29, 12:56 pm, SFTV_troy wrote:
On Sep 29, 8:50 am, Steve wrote:

You're making the most elementary of mistakes here. More
channels does not equal more...

Yes it does. Each station gets split into 3 or even 4 sub-channels.
For example one of my local stations has split into (1) Christian
talk/ education programs (as they've done for the last 50 years). (2)
An all-music channel. (3) Another all-music channel, but teen-
oriented. ----- Thus giving more choice to the listener, in the same
way XM Radio has more channels and more choices.

Yes, on channel 1 you can hear the informercial about colloidal
silver, on channel 2 you have some ginseng supplement, on channel
three the amazing hgh and on channel four investing in gold.

Uh, no. Perhaps you misunderstood, so let me repeat it: Channels:
(1) Christian talk. (2) All-music. (3) Teen-oriented music. -----
And the other station I like to tune-in has these channels: (1) Adult
rock. (2) Soft rock (instrumental).

Soft rock? "Teen-oriented" music? All of a sudden, infomercials don't
sound half bad.


These are ACTUAL programs, not made-up fiction.

Why don't you just turn your radio off?


Better to (a) upgrade to digital and hope for
more variety/ better programming, than to (b)
Do nothing and keep the current crapfest.

True, but better programming would improve a lot. And it
wouldn't require new technology. And it wouldn't destroy MW.

New technology might not improve the programming, but it will triple
or even quadruple the number of choices. (See above.)

It will only increase choice for those who live a stone's throw from
the transmitter. It will deprive everyone else of their choice, which
is analog.


And once the
analog is phased out, and the HD Radio is restricted to the standard
10 kilohertz width (mode 3), everything will be good again. No more
overlapping stations. (That is only a *temporary* situation, not a
permanent one.)

Of course, this is when all of the programming become *really*
generic. 500 channels and nothin' on.


No one's saying do nothing. A lot of folks are just saying "don't
do something that's only going to make the situation worse."

Sounds reasonable, but if you want to transition from AM-analog to AM-
digital, you're going to have to make some sacrifices.

In that case, I'm prepared to stick with analog. Sounds good to me.


Even the
European Union's DRM methodology spills-over into adjacent channels
(10 kHz AM + 5 kHz DRM). Plus it's only limited to ~10 kilobits per
second.... barely adequate.

Yes, but everyone knows that DRM sucks.


But that's the price you have to pay when you upgrade.... like when
color TV arrived. Or the necessity to get new Digital TV receivers.
You phase-out the old, and phase-in the new.


What I don't get is, how is this an 'upgrade'? It seems more like a
"downgrade" or switching to a new, but ultimately inferior,
technology.


BTW:

I don't really understand why people are upset about the loss of
DX'ing over AM (only temporarily; it will be restored when AM goes
pure digital). You can still do DX'ing via using services like
shoutcast.com. Just yesterday at work I was listening to an
Australian station. Another favorite of mine is located in England.
DX'ing is still alive and well on the internet.

No doubt that distant AM station you can no longer hear is still
available to you. Just visit their website & listen to their stream
(and you don't need to wait until night; you can do it during the day
too).- Hide quoted text -

Well hell, if you're listening to internet radio, who needs HD!

HD radio won't just go away.
 

On Sep 29, 6:31 pm, SFTV_troy wrote:


To date, I've not seen a downside to abandoning Analog format and
adopting new Digital ones.


That's cool. Just read a few of the threads here.

HD radio won't just go away.
 

On Sep 29, 7:38 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message

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SFTV_troy wrote:

I don't really understand why people are upset about the loss of
DX'ing over AM (only temporarily; it will be restored when AM goes
pure digital). You can still do DX'ing via using services like
shoutcast.com. Just yesterday at work I was listening to an
Australian station. Another favorite of mine is located in England.
DX'ing is still alive and well on the internet.

Uh... that's NOT DX'ing.

It may well become the DXing of the 21st Century.

While you're on the internet, maybe you should visit a diploma mill.
That would be right up your alley.

HD radio won't just go away.
 

On Sep 29, 7:55 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message

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Why should more channels of the same content be something people would
want?

That's just it! The HD 2 channels in most markets are totally
non-duplicative of the Analog/HD1 channel content. NY has, for example,
things like traditional jazz, country, classic hip hop, 50's and early 60's
oldies, standards, etc. that are not available on main channels.

So? Why does this get your panties in a bunch?

HD radio won't just go away.
 

On Sep 29, 8:04 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message

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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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SFTV_troy wrote:

I don't really understand why people are upset about the loss of
DX'ing over AM (only temporarily; it will be restored when AM goes
pure digital). You can still do DX'ing via using services like
shoutcast.com. Just yesterday at work I was listening to an
Australian station. Another favorite of mine is located in England.
DX'ing is still alive and well on the internet.

Uh... that's NOT DX'ing.

It may well become the DXing of the 21st Century.

That may work out for you but most people do not have the self
delusional capacity you possess.

The other way to see this is from the perspective that there are not many AM
(MW) DXers left. The combined IRCA and NRC membership is around or less than
a thousand in North America... compare that to when RaDex was sold at the
news rack at the corner drugstore and DXing was engaged in by millions.- Hide quoted text -

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Apparently there are enough to keep you awake at night. Lol.

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On Sep 29, 8:24 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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Why should more channels of the same content be something people would
want?

That's just it! The HD 2 channels in most markets are totally
non-duplicative of the Analog/HD1 channel content. NY has, for example,
things like traditional jazz, country, classic hip hop, 50's and early
60's
oldies, standards, etc. that are not available on main channels.

Why should formats that are not stations now be added as additional HD
channels. Where is the logic in that?

Because many formats are excluded because, with the finite number of FMs in
any market, there is not room for the second tier of formats. With HD 2
channels, there is.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Why should we believe you about this when you lie about your academic
history?