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"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:


"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
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In posted on Thu,
5 Jun 2008 14:24:32 -0700, David Eduardo wrote: Begin

Most of SD county does not receive a listenable signal from KNX
based on what signal level is required to get ratings.

I get them just fine, maybe you're thinking of the Anza Borrego
desert communities

No, I am thinking of the fact, verified by dozens of ratings
periods in many, many markets that shows that AMs get over 95% of
their in home and at work listening (70% lof the total listening
on average is in home or at work where ZIPs are tracable) is in
areas where the signal is 10 mv/m or greater. Since only a tiny
amount of shoreline has that intensity from KNX, there is pretty
much nowhere that the signal is usable by the average,
non-hobbyist, listener. Which is part of why they have essentially
no in home or at work listening at all in SD County (the county is
the metro for Arbitron).

SNIP

You are so full of crap. You don't know what you are talking about
at all.

Yeah, you are right and the measured behaviour of millions of persons
over the period of a decade or more is wrong.

San Diego is one of the markets where listening location vs. signal
strength has been analyzed, going back to 1998 and covering 39 survey
periods and nearly 100,000 listener diaries.

You are full of it Eduardo. I don't care where you get your data from
it's either wrong, you have misinterpreted it or made incorrect
extrapolations. In any event you don't know up from down.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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"David Eduardo" wrote:


"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
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"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
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The only 'metric' of any significance to this newsgroup is the
ability to be received, and KNX well qualifies in San Diego.

Don't bother to try arguing with Eduardo. He lives in the same
ivory tower as all sales types do, which has little or no
connection to real life.

Actually, I am a programmer who was for many years a chief
engineer as well.

SNIP

You sure could not tell that from the crap you post.


There is a Spanish saying about one not being able to cover the sky
with the palm of one's hand. You can deny all you want... there are
no facts other than your opinion to support your state of denial

You are full of crap Eduardo and you can repeat your nonsense all you
want but it does not make any of it true. You are not convincing anyone
but yourself.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
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In posted on Fri, 6
Jun 2008 12:35:26 -0700, David Eduardo wrote: Begin


Any quake big enough to reach that point will probably fell the KNX tower,
which is on a liquefaction zone, or kill the STL infrastructure.


If a quake hits San Diego hard enough to fell the KNX tower,
I won't be around to give a **** what happened.

A quake in SD is not likely to affect the KNX tower, which is in Torrance...
very far from SD County.

Now if one hits LA that
hard and we feel it (most likely) here, I'll scan through the amateur
repeaters to see if any survived up there, otherwise I'll wait until
some local station gets their chopper up to the scene and reports.

I don't think any SD radio station has a chopper.

"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
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In posted on Fri, 6
Jun 2008 12:36:29 -0700, David Eduardo wrote: Begin


"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
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In posted on Fri,
6 Jun 2008 05:42:09 -0700, David Eduardo wrote: Begin

And there is no way to quantify illegal aliens; even the Census Bureau
can
not perform an exact ennumeration. They do not self-declare, so all data
is
based on estimates, not counts. Since 80% of Hispanics ARE legal, this
is
not a major issue.

First you disqualify any statistical reference as meaningless,
then proceed to throw out your statistics.
Equally meaningless, no doubt.


The overall estimates are based on border crossings less returns.

You think they go through the turnstile counters at San Ysidro
so it can be determined how many are one way only?

There are all kinds of other estimates, based on a projection of the volume
indicated by tracks in all border areas, etc.

...and there are no turnstiles on any of the Otay Mesa smuggler trails
nor does anyone care enough to count any returning expatriates.

ICE gives an accurate count of repatriations.

"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
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In posted on Fri, 6
Jun 2008 12:37:51 -0700, David Eduardo wrote: Begin


"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
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Bart Bailey wrote:
In posted on Fri,
6 Jun 2008 05:42:09 -0700, David Eduardo wrote: Begin
And there is no way to quantify illegal aliens; even the Census Bureau
can not perform an exact ennumeration. They do not self-declare, so
all
data is based on estimates, not counts. Since 80% of Hispanics ARE
legal, this is not a major issue.

First you disqualify any statistical reference as meaningless, then
proceed to throw out your statistics. Equally meaningless, no doubt.

Well, stop and think about it. If you can't know how many illegals
there
are, you can't know how many legals there are.

You can know the national number, but not the specifics for any
jusrisdiction.

Every major source of demographics, public and private, has an estimate
based on crossings less repatriations, but nobody has exact data on
individual metros


You can, but you can't?
Sounds like the type paradox that your mental state is in.

We have national numbers, but not to the city or ZIP code levels.

"dxAce" wrote in message
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RHF wrote:

On Jun 6, 12:37 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in
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Bart Bailey wrote:
In posted on
Fri,
6 Jun 2008 05:42:09 -0700, David Eduardo wrote: Begin
And there is no way to quantify illegal aliens; even the Census
Bureau
can not perform an exact ennumeration. They do not self-declare, so
all
data is based on estimates, not counts. Since 80% of Hispanics ARE
legal, this is not a major issue.

First you disqualify any statistical reference as meaningless, then
proceed to throw out your statistics. Equally meaningless, no doubt.

Well, stop and think about it. If you can't know how many illegals
there
are, you can't know how many legals there are.

- You can know the national number,
- but not the specifics for any jusrisdiction.

d'Eduardo - That's Another Burger King Answer. ~ RHF

- Every major source of demographics, public and private,
- has an estimate based on crossings less repatriations,
- but nobody has exact data on individual metros

d'Eduardo - You are becoming entertaining . . .

Pure pedantry = pure entertainment

No, it is actually data available from the Census, Claritas, and other
demographers.

"Telamon" wrote in message
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San Diego is one of the markets where listening location vs. signal
strength has been analyzed, going back to 1998 and covering 39 survey
periods and nearly 100,000 listener diaries.

You are full of it Eduardo. I don't care where you get your data from
it's either wrong, you have misinterpreted it or made incorrect
extrapolations. In any event you don't know up from down.

The listening data is from over 100,000 Arbitron diaries over the last 10
years. listening locations taken from Arbiton's Maximiser and plotted on
MapMaker, another Arbitron application. Then, contours of stations are laid
over the maps, using one of the engineering applications to create multiple
contours.

The data is accurate... it is the Arbitron ratings. There is no
interpretation... just a view of where listening takes place either for home
or work listening... and a determination of where it occurs vs. signal
strength.

Several broadcasters have done this, as well as Arbitron itself to determine
how to do ascription which in many cases is totally signal based.

David Frackelton Gleason, who poses as 'Eduardo', blew the refried beans out his
ass when he wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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RHF wrote:

On Jun 6, 12:37 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in
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Bart Bailey wrote:
In posted on
Fri,
6 Jun 2008 05:42:09 -0700, David Eduardo wrote: Begin
And there is no way to quantify illegal aliens; even the Census
Bureau
can not perform an exact ennumeration. They do not self-declare, so
all
data is based on estimates, not counts. Since 80% of Hispanics ARE
legal, this is not a major issue.

First you disqualify any statistical reference as meaningless, then
proceed to throw out your statistics. Equally meaningless, no doubt.

Well, stop and think about it. If you can't know how many illegals
there
are, you can't know how many legals there are.

- You can know the national number,
- but not the specifics for any jusrisdiction.

d'Eduardo - That's Another Burger King Answer. ~ RHF

- Every major source of demographics, public and private,
- has an estimate based on crossings less repatriations,
- but nobody has exact data on individual metros

d'Eduardo - You are becoming entertaining . . .

Pure pedantry = pure entertainment

No, it is actually data available from the Census, Claritas, and other
demographers.

Our data indicates that humanity would be better served if you were in the
fields picking lettuce.

On Jun 6, 11:34*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Bart Bailey" wrote in message

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In posted on Fri, 6
Jun 2008 12:36:29 -0700, David Eduardo wrote: Begin

"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
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In posted on Fri,
6 Jun 2008 05:42:09 -0700, David Eduardo wrote: Begin

And there is no way to quantify illegal aliens; even the Census Bureau
can
not perform an exact ennumeration. They do not self-declare, so all data
is
based on estimates, not counts. Since 80% of Hispanics ARE legal, this
is
not a major issue.

First you disqualify any statistical reference as meaningless,
then proceed to throw out your statistics.
Equally meaningless, no doubt.

The overall estimates are based on border crossings less returns.

You think they go through the turnstile counters at San Ysidro
so it can be determined how many are one way only?

There are all kinds of other estimates, based on a projection of the volume
indicated by tracks in all border areas, etc.

...and there are no turnstiles on any of the Otay Mesa smuggler trails
nor does anyone care enough to count any returning expatriates.

- ICE gives an accurate count of repatriations.

d'Eduardo,

D'Oh ! - More 'go home' to Mexico on they own to Stay
or for a Visit/Vacation then are processed by ICE.

~ RHF

Bart Bailey wrote:

In posted on Sat, 07 Jun
2008 06:22:00 -0400, dxAce wrote: Begin


Our data indicates that humanity would be better served if you were in the
fields picking lettuce.

puhleeze
we already have enough infectious outbreaks from the ones there now
picking produce with their doodoo encrusted manos g

You certainly have a point there.