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With this conversion consumers start to lose and big business wins.
Along with “FM quality” you lose the character and versatility that
comes with the elegant simplicity of AM radio that has served people
so well for so long. Gone will be the days of hearing stations the
next city or state over. Gone will be the day of using an inexpensive
radio to get local news and weather. What you will have is a
relatively expensive clunky digital radio system that is lucky to
receive stations 20 miles away with any consistency that is designed
to eventually squeeze out any local stations. And forget about FM
quality – it’s just not there in spite of what iBiquity claims.


Well, a couple of nights ago, I did a band scan to see how badly
IBOC was ****ing* on the AM band. I only heard four signals, two of
which were local (Seattle).

Looks like the West Coast AM broadcasters realize it's a suicide
pact.

*(That's what it sounds like, to me).

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Well, a couple of nights ago, I did a band scan to see how badly
IBOC was ****ing* on the AM band. I only heard four signals, two of
which were local (Seattle).


DX-ing is something which adds no value to the broadcasts or broadcasters
and has never been a reliable source of listening outside of it's protected
contours.

If someone wants to try to retain the ability to DX....and will do so at the
expense of fidelity....then it's a losing battle.

99% of all listeneing is done within the stations protected contours and
those listeners will recieve the benefit of added fidelity and fuctionality.

They argument that it affects DX is not a valid point.




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Radio Ronn lq6dpvk02-at-sneakemail.com wrote:

Well, a couple of nights ago, I did a band scan to see how badly
IBOC was ****ing* on the AM band. I only heard four signals, two of
which were local (Seattle).


DX-ing is something which adds no value to the broadcasts or broadcasters
and has never been a reliable source of listening outside of it's protected
contours.

If someone wants to try to retain the ability to DX....and will do so at the
expense of fidelity....then it's a losing battle.

99% of all listeneing is done within the stations protected contours and
those listeners will recieve the benefit of added fidelity and fuctionality.

They argument that it affects DX is not a valid point.


I'm not talking about DX.

Here's the suicide pact: A station goes for IBOC, and all the stations
adjacent to it get the outer fringes of their service area cropped off
because of the new interference. They can retaliate by turning on their
IBOC causing a reduction in service area for the first station.
Since the HD receivers are a flop, there's no gain in listeners, only
a possible reduction.

The big noise-talker in Sacramento (1540?) was ****ing on things up
here pretty good. And they've since quit.

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Well, a couple of nights ago, I did a band scan to see how badly
IBOC was ****ing* on the AM band. I only heard four signals, two of
which were local (Seattle).


DX-ing is something which adds no value to the broadcasts or broadcasters
and has never been a reliable source of listening outside of it's
protected
contours.


Someone over on radio-info.com mentioned that WLS, I believe, used to
draw ratings in other states. I'm suspect some of the other old clears
used to do the same, before the FCC changed the rules in the 80s.


that was 25 years ago. those days are gone.

That's not the only argument. There are some pretty blatant examples
of real problems, such as WBZ affecting at least two stations inside
their protected contours, including KDKA.


Well since KDKA is owned by them, we'll see if they think it is enough of
an issue to do something about.

So far they haven't.

As far as the other station, it's a small 'rimshot' station that is trying
to reach a city it was not intended to do by design.







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