On Dec 20, 3:27 pm, elaich wrote:
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Not to put you on the spot but in your estimation how successful of a
year was it for iBiquitys HD radio?

More and more stations are turning it off. WTIC just joined the crowd.

Is WTIC an AM station?

On Dec 20, 3:47*pm, wrote:
On Dec 20, 3:27 pm, elaich wrote:

wrote in news:18fe4501-a9ce-42ea-962a-
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Not to put you on the spot but in your estimation how successful of a
year was it for iBiquitys HD radio?

More and more stations are turning it off. WTIC just joined the crowd.

Is WTIC an AM station?

Yes... This is probably justt the tip of the iceburg:

"CC Radio’s Format Lab gone?"
November 2008

"So bottom line, the Format Lab is no longer available on the web and
has cut some of its formats down to the most successful/desirable. The
www.iHeartMusic.com website seems to only list the main audio streams
of CC stations--not multicast HD formats--but does offer a few off to
the side: erockster; Pride; Verizon New Music; Smooth Jazz; Real
Oldies; Slow Jams and New Country. There used to be something close to
100 formats listed on the site... Really, the next round of budget
cuts--out of necessity--is likely going to be HD Radio equipment and
licensing renewals. It has cost broadcasters money that so far has not
generated ROI. This CC Radio news above, along with the rumors that
Citadel has told Engineering not to fix any broken HD transmitters on
AM, may be the tip of the iceberg."

http://www.rbr.com/radio/11252.html

I believe that WGY and WBBM have also turned it off - of course, all
of the Citadel AM stations have it off, at least at nighttime.

On Dec 20, 3:47*pm, wrote:
On Dec 20, 3:27 pm, elaich wrote:

wrote in news:18fe4501-a9ce-42ea-962a-
:

Not to put you on the spot but in your estimation how successful of a
year was it for iBiquitys HD radio?

More and more stations are turning it off. WTIC just joined the crowd.

Is WTIC an AM station?

Well, the FCC has been told not to consider any more actions, so the
forced inclusion of HD Radio into SIRI receivers, and the proposed
10db power increase for FM-HD is on hold:

"Lawmakers order FCC to stand down; put actions on hold"

"Senator Jay Rockefeller (D-WV) and Representative Henry Waxman (D-CA)
today called on FCC Chairman Kevin Martin to put the agency's actions
on hold unless they are urgent or required by law. Rockefeller's and
Waxman's committees both have jurisdiction over the FCC... If the FCC
indeed must stand down (an FCC spokesperson said they are reviewing
the order right now), then the WCS-SDARS issue - and even the HD Radio
mandate - would likely be put on hold until the new administration
moves in."

http://tinyurl.com/63b9wz

"Kevin Martin's FCC Dysfunctional"

"The Committee staff report details some of the most egregious abuses
of power, suppression of information and manipulation of data under
Chairman Martin’s leadership. It is my hope that this report will
serve as a roadmap for a fair, open and efficient FCC under new
leadership in the next administration.”

http://tinyurl.com/59kvkq

"Media: Bush's broken Boy Toy"

"You’re Boy Kevin Martin and you’ll be forever known by your new
acronym for the FCC – Federal Communications Crook. You wear it well.
You’re Boy Kevin Martin and you turned the FCC into your own personal
hackapalooza. Under-the-table deals were your specialty. You’re Boy
Kevin Martin and you offered your own personal directory of preferred
lobbyists to anyone wanting to buy in."

http://tinyurl.com/6bfu9o

I, among others, have been in touch with Obama's FCC transition team,
and my guess is that HD Radio will eventually get investigated.
Doubtful, that many FMs will rebuild transmitter sites for the 10db
power increase, and if there is enough of them, lawsuits will fly:

"Comments of Simmons Media Group, LLC"

"Large-market and large-group stations with more resources will be the
most likely to increase digital operating power, leaving small-market,
rural, and family-owned analog broadcasters to lose revenues from
interference while undertaking large attorney and engineering fees to
fight digital interference at the FCC."

http://tinyurl.com/6fmcx4

Struble sure has done the industry a great service, by dividing and
pitting broadcasters against one another.

On Dec 20, 3:47�pm, wrote:
On Dec 20, 3:27 pm, elaich wrote:

wrote in news:18fe4501-a9ce-42ea-962a-
:

Not to put you on the spot but in your estimation how successful of a
year was it for iBiquitys HD radio?

More and more stations are turning it off. WTIC just joined the crowd.

Is WTIC an AM station?

Here's the updated list of AM-HD stations:

http://topazdesigns.com/iboc/station-list.html

wrote:
On Dec 20, 3:27 pm, elaich wrote:
wrote in news:18fe4501-a9ce-42ea-962a-
:

Not to put you on the spot but in your estimation how successful of a
year was it for iBiquitys HD radio?
More and more stations are turning it off. WTIC just joined the crowd.

Is WTIC an AM station?

http://www.fccinfo.com/CMDProFacLook...ll+Sign+Search

Dave wrote:
BoobleStubble wrote:

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Eduardo's hate for AM radio is obvious - many of the larger 50kw AM
stations are ranked #1, or are in the top-5, and aren't going
anywhere. The HD conversion has stalled - that was the original point
of HD, to get all stations to convert. I don't see WiMax as a huge
issue either - Verizon and AT&T already provide fast service to the
Internet. My boys just got the new Blackberry Storms and the Internet
is real fast. The FCC is dead-set on providing Internet services
nation-wide. Obama's administation is going after the FCC, and it is
only a matter of time when the HD Radio scandal gets investigated.

KNX sounds terrible. Before, when they faded a little bit, you hardly
noticed. Now, the Flubbermobile comes bubbling up every few seconds all
night long. Most annoying.

And yes, I live in the alleged service area. I'm maybe 40 miles North
of Redondo Beach.

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If I understand, you seem to think this was a successful year and the
HD radio "deployment" is on track?

No station operator I have talked with thinks or ever though this would be
anything but a slow transition. First, there had to be stations, and all
that are needed to drive the market are already on with HD.

Do you think iBiquity investors
will ever want to see a return on their investment?

It is going to take longer with a recession, but one of the reasons
broadcasters financed part of the startup was to allow iBiquity, like the
biomedical firms, plenty of time to achieve the industry goals.

Are broadcasters
pleased with consumer response to HD radio?

There is no way to be pleased until we see low power consumption chips
arrive. Remember the patience of radio: it took Arbitron over 12 years to
get the People Meter deployed, and the reason for patience on both sides of
that equation was the need for technology to catch up to the theory.

Is HD radio making any
money or is it still sustained by investor dollars?

It does not cost very much to keep it going once it is on the air; a bunch
of stations are making money selling HD2 or HD3 channels for narrowcasting,
like a national Hindi network on HD.

Doesn't it all
come down to paying the bills? Will HD radio have enough time to wait
on consumers and receiver technology to catch up?

Sure. Not much cost.


There still seems to be many serious issues about the whole thing. Not
to mention the fact that the FCC might have crossed the line
concerning its relationship to iBiquity.

The argument for that is a reach by the HD opponents, who have neither logic
not facts on their side.

"BoobleStubble" wrote in message
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Eduardo's hate for AM radio is obvious - many of the larger 50kw AM
stations are ranked #1, or are in the top-5, and aren't going
anywhere.

There are nearly no big AMs (power is not the issue... it's coverage) that
are in the top 5 in the sales demogaphics of 18 to 54. And, like 1A clear
channel KSL in Salt Lake city, they are moving as fast as they can to FM...
other 50 kw AMs that have done this are KIRO in Seattle and WWL in New
Orleans and WIBC in Indianapolis... some simulcast, like KSL and WWL, others
just abandon the format on AM as they go where the salable listeners are.

The HD conversion has stalled - that was the original pointof HD, to get
all stations to convert.

No, that was not. The objective was to get the viable FMs and AMs in the top
100 markets on, and with few, few exceptions, they are.


I don't see WiMax as a huge
issue either - Verizon and AT&T already provide fast service to the
Internet.

WiMax allows for high speed mobile internet. It will allow for the possible
success of internet only stations, local and national.

My boys just got the new Blackberry Storms and the Internet
is real fast.

No, it's not. And it requires being, pretty much, in a static location for
good reception.

The FCC is dead-set on providing Internet services
nation-wide.

That is opposite of the truth, as the Clearwire - Sprint deal proved
(although the two could not come to final terms)

"elaich" wrote in message ...
wrote in news:18fe4501-a9ce-42ea-962a-
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Not to put you on the spot but in your estimation how successful of a
year was it for iBiquitys HD radio?

More and more stations are turning it off. WTIC just joined the crowd.

AM is dead, the prime formats moving to FM.

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On Dec 20, 3:27 pm, elaich wrote:
wrote in news:18fe4501-a9ce-42ea-962a-
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Not to put you on the spot but in your estimation how successful of a
year was it for iBiquitys HD radio?

More and more stations are turning it off. WTIC just joined the crowd.

Is WTIC an AM station?

1-B clear in Hartford.