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On Sep 11, 5:05*pm, dave wrote:
dxAce wrote:

dave wrote:


Gregg wrote:
The History Channel is the place to be
on this somber day. All day is going to
be great shows.


A couple dozen crazies bring empire to its knees with boxcutters and
maxxed-out credit cards. *****ing embarrassment. *Bush should be
punished for getting caught napping.


Funny, as it would seem most of their work and practice took place during your
'tard boy Clinton's watch. Was he napping or fooling around with interns?


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As I recall Clinton was being distracted by an insane witch hunt.
Regardless, Bush had dozens of very specific warnings and did nothing.

Did nothing.- Hide quoted text -


****MANY**** people did nothing Dave, there is
plenty of blame to go around. The part that just leaves me shaking my
head is that IMO, this country
is no more better prepared than it was on 9-11.
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****MANY**** people did nothing Dave, there is
plenty of blame to go around. The part that just leaves me shaking my
head is that IMO, this country
is no more better prepared than it was on 9-11.


It was not Mr. Bush's prerogative to do nothing. Read the time line.

http://www.historycommons.org/timeli..._9/11=warnings

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In article ,
dxAce wrote:


dave wrote:

Gregg wrote:
The History Channel is the place to be
on this somber day. All day is going to
be great shows.


A couple dozen crazies bring empire to its knees with boxcutters and
maxxed-out credit cards. ****ing embarrassment. Bush should be
punished for getting caught napping.


Funny, as it would seem most of their work and practice took place during your
'tard boy Clinton's watch. Was he napping or fooling around with interns?

dxAce
Michigan
USA


Anyone interested in a factual telling of what was done to keep us
safe in the 90s to 9/11 can read Chapter 6 of the 9/11 Comission
Report. (About 50 pages)

http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report.pdf


Clinton tried lots of things. For many reasons, most out of his
control, they didn't work. he *did* keep us safe dueing the attacks of
the millinium new year but we don't hear about them becuase they were
foiled. Was he perfect? Far from it.

The Bush Administration just pushed reorganization memos until the
first scheduled terrorism meeting; Sept 4, 2001 Literally. They
ignored the 50+ threat warnings that the FBI knew of in their branch
offices as of the Summer of 2001 but the FBI had no national analysis
capability and the Bush Administration ever asked them to do it.

See The Comission report (2004) and updated by Amy Zegert in
Spying Blind: The CIA, the FBI, and the Origins of 9/11 (2007)





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News is something someone wants to suppress, everything else is advertising.
- Lord Northcliffe, publisher of the Daily Mail

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On Sep 11, 2:20*pm, dave wrote:
Gregg wrote:
The History Channel is the place to be
on this somber day. All day is going to
be great shows.


A couple dozen crazies bring empire to its knees with boxcutters and
maxxed-out credit cards. *****ing embarrassment. *Bush should be
punished for getting caught napping.


Well Dave, lets not go that far, though I understand
what you're saying.

I feel it goes/went much deeper than freeking Bush.
I wonder if something happens during Obama's
admin. if the reactions will still be to blame Bush.

Sooner or later the blame game on Bush has to stop.

It will be interesting because make no mistake
about it, the next disaster is going to make 9-11
look like a 4th of July Fireworks Show.

The question is will those people be prepared and
not loose their heads so too speak and get out safely.

Many deaths on 9-11 could have been avoided after
the first crash, people were coming down the elevators and were told
by freeking security that "this
building is secure, go back to your work stations"....
lol...I would have told him "lets don't and say we did."

I'd have been out there.shaking my head

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Bushcraftgregg wrote:
On Sep 11, 2:20 pm, dave wrote:
Gregg wrote:
The History Channel is the place to be
on this somber day. All day is going to
be great shows.

A couple dozen crazies bring empire to its knees with boxcutters and
maxxed-out credit cards. ****ing embarrassment. Bush should be
punished for getting caught napping.


Well Dave, lets not go that far, though I understand
what you're saying.

I feel it goes/went much deeper than freeking Bush.
I wonder if something happens during Obama's
admin. if the reactions will still be to blame Bush.

Sooner or later the blame game on Bush has to stop.

Why were these guys allowed to fly?

"Mohamed Atta and Abdulaziz Alomari check in at the US Airways counter
at Portland International Jetport Airport. [Portland Press Herald,
10/5/2001; Federal Bureau of Investigation, 10/14/2001] They are wearing
ties and jackets. Atta checks in two bags, Alomari none. Atta is
randomly selected for additional security scrutiny by the FAA’s Computer
Assisted Passenger Prescreening System (CAPPS) (see (6:20 a.m.-7:48
a.m.) September 11, 2001). However, the only consequence is that his
checked bags will be held off the plane until it is confirmed that he
has boarded. [9/11 Commission, 7/24/2004, pp. 1; 9/11 Commission,
8/26/2004, pp. 2 pdf file; CNN, 3/3/2006] Noting that their flight is
soon due to leave, the ticket agent who checks them in, Michael Tuohey,
says, “You’re cutting it close.” [Portland Press Herald, 3/6/2005]
Tuohey thinks the pair seems unusual. He notices they both have $2,500
first-class, one-way tickets. He later comments, “You don’t see many of
those.” Atta looks “like a walking corpse. He looked so angry.” In
contrast, Tuohey says, Alomari can barely speak English and has “a goofy
smile, I can’t believe he knew he was going to die that day.” Tuohey
will later recount,

“I thought they looked like two Arab terrorists but then I berated
myself for the stereotype and did nothing.”

[Philadelphia Daily News, 2/24/2005; Mirror, 9/11/2005; CNN, 3/3/2006]
Atta becomes angry when Tuohey informs him he will have to check in
again in Boston. He complains that he was assured he would have a
“one-step check-in.” [9/11 Commission, 8/26/2004, pp. 2 pdf file;
Associated Press, 3/7/2005] Tuohey will be recalled to work later in the
day to speak to an FBI agent about his encounter with Atta and Alomari.
He is shown video footage of them passing through the airport’s security
checkpoint upstairs (see (Between 5:45 a.m. and 5:53 a.m.) September 11,
2001). Although recognizing the two men, he notices that in the video
they are no longer wearing the jackets and ties they’d had on when
checking in just minutes before. He assumes they must have taken these
off and tucked them into their carry-on baggage. He is also informed
that the security camera behind his own desk, which should have captured
the two hijackers, has in fact been out of order for some time.
[Portland Press Herald, 3/6/2005; CNN, 3/3/2006]

Entity Tags: Michael Tuohey, Federal Aviation Administration, Computer
Assisted Passenger Prescreening System, Portland International Jetport
Airport, Abdulaziz Alomari, Mohamed Atta

Timeline Tags: Complete 911 Timeline, 9/11 Timeline

http://www.historycommons.org/contex...tlandc heckin


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On Sep 11, 5:14*pm, dave wrote:
Bushcraftgregg wrote:
On Sep 11, 2:20 pm, dave wrote:
Gregg wrote:
The History Channel is the place to be
on this somber day. All day is going to
be great shows.
A couple dozen crazies bring empire to its knees with boxcutters and
maxxed-out credit cards. *****ing embarrassment. *Bush should be
punished for getting caught napping.


Well Dave, lets not go that far, though I understand
what you're saying.


I feel it goes/went much deeper than freeking Bush.
I wonder if something happens during Obama's
admin. if the reactions will still be to blame Bush.


Sooner or later the blame game on Bush has to stop.


Why were these guys allowed to fly?

"Mohamed Atta and Abdulaziz Alomari check in at the US Airways counter
at Portland International Jetport Airport. [Portland Press Herald,
10/5/2001; Federal Bureau of Investigation, 10/14/2001] They are wearing
ties and jackets. Atta checks in two bags, Alomari


*******rest snipped********

Dave, I have to be somewhat careful what I say and how I say it in
here. Much of what happened, at its
very origin started here in Cincinnati and I will leave
it at that.

People, for fear of being labeled a racist or trying to
start trouble are ignored when ones in the know tell
their superiors "that something isn't right here."

It is much easier to say " don't worry about it".... or "you're
getting a little carried away."

Some of those pilots actually got their first taste
of simply flying a plane, not worrying about landing
a plane mind you, but flying a plane here in the Nati' and IMO it was
either ignored or no one cared.
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On Sep 12, 12:25*pm, Toxic wrote:
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Dave, I have to be somewhat careful what I say and how I say it in here..
Much of what happened, at its
very origin started here in Cincinnati and I will leave it at that.


Are you implying that you either were complicit in that event, or at the
least, have knowledge that you are unwilling to share, even if it could
be beneficial to the ongoing security of this country?


Umm.....yea. That's right. Call the FBI.rolling my
eyes Do your own homework pal.


...Or perhaps merely trying to conflate the circumstance of your
residence to the proximity of an activity with which you were totally
unconnected yet serves conveniently to impute self importance?


LMAO - what a retard...lol.

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On Sep 11, 1:59*pm, Bushcraftgregg wrote:
On Sep 11, 2:20*pm, dave wrote:

Gregg wrote:
The History Channel is the place to be
on this somber day. All day is going to
be great shows.


A couple dozen crazies bring empire to its knees with boxcutters and
maxxed-out credit cards. *****ing embarrassment. *Bush should be
punished for getting caught napping.


Well Dave, lets not go that far, though I understand
what you're saying.


- I feel it goes/went much deeper than freeking Bush.
- I wonder if something happens during Obama's
- admin. if the reactions will still be to blame Bush.

What ever 'happens' during Obama's Presidency will
be BLAMED ON BUSH by the Obama-Regime©
and the Obama-Media-Shills©.

praise be the obama,
Praise Be The Obama.
PRAISE BE THE OBAMA !
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Better you should listen to
"20-Minutes with the President"
http://www.prisonplanet.com/twenty-m...president.html
-by- Charlie Sheen
.
Prez Obama you pledged Transparent Government Operations :
So that the US Citizens would know the Truth
-so- Prez Obama Answer Charlie Sheen's Questions
and Give the American People "The Truth" about 9/11.


Over the edge completely goes Mr. Roy Fisk, of Twain (one of America's
greatest atheists) Harte, California USA.
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dave wrote:

Better you should listen to
"20-Minutes with the President"
http://www.prisonplanet.com/twenty-m...president.html
-by- Charlie Sheen
.
Prez Obama you pledged Transparent Government Operations :
So that the US Citizens would know the Truth
-so- Prez Obama Answer Charlie Sheen's Questions
and Give the American People "The Truth" about 9/11.


Over the edge completely goes Mr. Roy Fisk, of Twain (one of America's
greatest atheists) Harte, California USA.


Yo Dave. maybe you should be the one to tell Really-High-Frequently,
that the interview was a phony? or, let me. sorry Ray-gun, it never
happened. just another made up interview by the fear and hate people.
the Neo-Cons Live!

Now, can we get back to radio?

Drifter...


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