Gray Guest wrote in
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RD Sandman wrote in
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Fair enough.......I have, as mentioned, three of the SP-101s and none
of the derringers.....although a friend of mine has about 10 of them.
He isn't thrilled about shooting them either.

I shot an SP-101. Once. There is no reason to subject yourself to that
as there are equally effective gun/cartridge combos that are far less
painful.


Huh? The SP-101 is a relatively heavy gun for a snubbie. That is one of
the complaints about it. If you think it is vicious in recoil, you
really should stay away from any of the Scandiums from S&W, or the
titaniums from Taurus. Keep in mind that in those light guns, most folks
shooting .357 Mags, fire once, think "Holy ****!!", fire another time and
by the third round are looking for the exit.

To me, there are several poly semi autos in 9mm that the recoil in is
heavier than an SP-101 in .357 Mag. Hell, the SP-101 in .327 Federal
feels like a fart compared to a windstorm.

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Sleep well tonight,

RD (The Sandman)

WINE - Does not make you FAT....it makes you LEAN....
...against tables, chairs, floors, walls and ugly people...

RD Sandman wrote in
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Gray Guest wrote in
4.100:

RD Sandman wrote in
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Fair enough.......I have, as mentioned, three of the SP-101s and none
of the derringers.....although a friend of mine has about 10 of them.
He isn't thrilled about shooting them either.

I shot an SP-101. Once. There is no reason to subject yourself to that
as there are equally effective gun/cartridge combos that are far less
painful.


Huh? The SP-101 is a relatively heavy gun for a snubbie. That is one of
the complaints about it. If you think it is vicious in recoil, you
really should stay away from any of the Scandiums from S&W, or the
titaniums from Taurus. Keep in mind that in those light guns, most folks
shooting .357 Mags, fire once, think "Holy ****!!", fire another time and
by the third round are looking for the exit.

To me, there are several poly semi autos in 9mm that the recoil in is
heavier than an SP-101 in .357 Mag. Hell, the SP-101 in .327 Federal
feels like a fart compared to a windstorm.


Sp-101 is the shot, is it not? The 5 shot .357 is what I shot. Maybe it was
the grips. I like recoil but to much is enough.

And I looked at the Scandiums and almost coughed up a lung laughing. I have
my 642(?) blued, concealed hammer, airweight 5 shot Jframe and I like it
plenty. Just use good bullets and practice.

Self abuse is supposed to be pleasureable, isn't it? 8)

--
Words of wisdom

What does not kill you... probably didn't cause enough tissue damage.

Gray Guest wrote in
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RD Sandman wrote in
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Gray Guest wrote in
4.100:

RD Sandman wrote in
:

Fair enough.......I have, as mentioned, three of the SP-101s and
none of the derringers.....although a friend of mine has about 10
of them.
He isn't thrilled about shooting them either.

I shot an SP-101. Once. There is no reason to subject yourself to
that as there are equally effective gun/cartridge combos that are
far less painful.


Huh? The SP-101 is a relatively heavy gun for a snubbie. That is
one of the complaints about it. If you think it is vicious in
recoil, you really should stay away from any of the Scandiums from
S&W, or the titaniums from Taurus. Keep in mind that in those light
guns, most folks shooting .357 Mags, fire once, think "Holy ****!!",
fire another time and by the third round are looking for the exit.

To me, there are several poly semi autos in 9mm that the recoil in is
heavier than an SP-101 in .357 Mag. Hell, the SP-101 in .327 Federal
feels like a fart compared to a windstorm.


Sp-101 is the shot, is it not? The 5 shot .357 is what I shot. Maybe
it was the grips. I like recoil but to much is enough.

Oh, well........I have carried one for over twenty years. Used it as an
adjunct to my old(?) GP-100 with a 3" bbl. Sold the GP-100 (what a
mistake that was) and now have the three SP-101s. However, if they would
make a GP100 in .44 spl, I would buy another one in heartbeat.

And I looked at the Scandiums and almost coughed up a lung laughing. I
have my 642(?) blued, concealed hammer, airweight 5 shot Jframe and I
like it plenty. Just use good bullets and practice.

That airweight Jframe should be at least as abusive as the SP-101. You
are looking at 11 ounces (J frame) compared to 25 ounces (SP-101) Both
empty.

Self abuse is supposed to be pleasureable, isn't it? 8)

As long as the gun fits..... it is pleasurable to shoot. One reason why
there are so many choices out there.


--
Sleep well tonight,

RD (The Sandman)

WINE - Does not make you FAT....it makes you LEAN....
...against tables, chairs, floors, walls and ugly people...

RD Sandman wrote in
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Gray Guest wrote in
44.100:

RD Sandman wrote in
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Gray Guest wrote in
4.100:

RD Sandman wrote in
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Fair enough.......I have, as mentioned, three of the SP-101s and
none of the derringers.....although a friend of mine has about 10
of them.
He isn't thrilled about shooting them either.

I shot an SP-101. Once. There is no reason to subject yourself to
that as there are equally effective gun/cartridge combos that are
far less painful.


Huh? The SP-101 is a relatively heavy gun for a snubbie. That is
one of the complaints about it. If you think it is vicious in
recoil, you really should stay away from any of the Scandiums from
S&W, or the titaniums from Taurus. Keep in mind that in those light
guns, most folks shooting .357 Mags, fire once, think "Holy ****!!",
fire another time and by the third round are looking for the exit.

To me, there are several poly semi autos in 9mm that the recoil in is
heavier than an SP-101 in .357 Mag. Hell, the SP-101 in .327 Federal
feels like a fart compared to a windstorm.


Sp-101 is the shot, is it not? The 5 shot .357 is what I shot. Maybe
it was the grips. I like recoil but to much is enough.

Oh, well........I have carried one for over twenty years. Used it as an
adjunct to my old(?) GP-100 with a 3" bbl. Sold the GP-100 (what a
mistake that was) and now have the three SP-101s. However, if they would
make a GP100 in .44 spl, I would buy another one in heartbeat.

Amen. I would love a .44 Spl revolver!


And I looked at the Scandiums and almost coughed up a lung laughing. I
have my 642(?) blued, concealed hammer, airweight 5 shot Jframe and I
like it plenty. Just use good bullets and practice.

That airweight Jframe should be at least as abusive as the SP-101. You
are looking at 11 ounces (J frame) compared to 25 ounces (SP-101) Both
empty.

Yeah but the .38, even the +P don't seem as vigorous as .357. Maybe it was
the rounds we were shooting. I have a 2.5" M-19 (old FBI trade in form when
they went to the 10mm, very slick) that is easy to shoot even with hot loads.
It has Pachmyar RB grips though. I really think it is about the grips in a
lot of cases.

I'm kinda funny about what I'll carry though. The guns i do carry have been
flawless or very easily adjusted by myself. Anything to untoward I get
uncomfortable. Had a Taurus 85CH. Great gun. Firing pin broke. Even though
they fized it under warranty and I'm sure it was fine I just couldn't put it
in my pocket again. Ended up selling it.

Same thing with the 101. Bad first impression makes me less likely to go back
for more. Not saying it's a bad gun, enough people swear by them. It's just
personal preference.

Self abuse is supposed to be pleasureable, isn't it? 8)

As long as the gun fits..... it is pleasurable to shoot. One reason why
there are so many choices out there.

I had a Super Blackhawk in .44 Mag. You know the one with the squared trigger
guard? I loved it until the first session at the range. The damn corner tore
the Hell outta my knuckles. I was holdling it right, it's just the way it
recoiled.

OTOH my wife has the Ruger Mk II. Love it. Great to shoot. And my heavy
barrel 10/22? It's indecent how much I love that thing. I have to watch when
I shooting it because I can go through a LOT of .22 in an afternoon, it's
such a pleasure to shoot.

I use steel plate swingers and just try to keep 'em moving so I don't have to
worry about changing out paper targets. Man it's a blast!

--
Words of wisdom

What does not kill you... probably didn't cause enough tissue damage.

Gray Guest wrote in
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RD Sandman wrote in
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Gray Guest wrote in
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RD Sandman wrote in
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Gray Guest wrote in
4.100:

RD Sandman wrote in
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Fair enough.......I have, as mentioned, three of the SP-101s and
none of the derringers.....although a friend of mine has about 10
of them.
He isn't thrilled about shooting them either.

I shot an SP-101. Once. There is no reason to subject yourself to
that as there are equally effective gun/cartridge combos that are
far less painful.


Huh? The SP-101 is a relatively heavy gun for a snubbie. That is
one of the complaints about it. If you think it is vicious in
recoil, you really should stay away from any of the Scandiums from
S&W, or the titaniums from Taurus. Keep in mind that in those
light guns, most folks shooting .357 Mags, fire once, think "Holy
****!!", fire another time and by the third round are looking for
the exit.

To me, there are several poly semi autos in 9mm that the recoil in
is heavier than an SP-101 in .357 Mag. Hell, the SP-101 in .327
Federal feels like a fart compared to a windstorm.


Sp-101 is the shot, is it not? The 5 shot .357 is what I shot. Maybe
it was the grips. I like recoil but to much is enough.

Oh, well........I have carried one for over twenty years. Used it as
an adjunct to my old(?) GP-100 with a 3" bbl. Sold the GP-100 (what
a mistake that was) and now have the three SP-101s. However, if they
would make a GP100 in .44 spl, I would buy another one in heartbeat.

Amen. I would love a .44 Spl revolver!

I have three......a New Model Blackhawk, a Colt SAA, and a Taurus 445. I
also have one .44Mag, a Sporting Arms, Inc Seville Sheriff's model. I
carried the Taurus for a long time. I also had and sold two Rossi 720Cs.
Excellent guns. Smooth trigger in operation but I didn't like the feel
of it where it was grooved. I smoothed one of them out but not the
other. Got too good an offer for them.

And I looked at the Scandiums and almost coughed up a lung laughing.
I have my 642(?) blued, concealed hammer, airweight 5 shot Jframe
and I like it plenty. Just use good bullets and practice.

That airweight Jframe should be at least as abusive as the SP-101.
You are looking at 11 ounces (J frame) compared to 25 ounces (SP-101)
Both empty.

Yeah but the .38, even the +P don't seem as vigorous as .357.

It's not but both of the guns I mentioned there are available as .357s.
Additionally, just 'cause one has a .357, it doesn't make it that you
must shoot .357s in it. I know several folks with .357 snubbies who
carry .38 spl +P or +P+ in them.

Maybe it
was the rounds we were shooting. I have a 2.5" M-19 (old FBI trade in
form when they went to the 10mm, very slick) that is easy to shoot
even with hot loads. It has Pachmyar RB grips though. I really think
it is about the grips in a lot of cases.

Grips make a big difference. My 445 didn't come with the Ribber grip
that Taurus makes but it can be added. That Ribber grip does come with
the titanium model, just not the steel one.

I'm kinda funny about what I'll carry though. The guns i do carry have
been flawless or very easily adjusted by myself. Anything to untoward
I get uncomfortable. Had a Taurus 85CH. Great gun. Firing pin broke.
Even though they fized it under warranty and I'm sure it was fine I
just couldn't put it in my pocket again. Ended up selling it.

Good gun, I have a Taurus Ultra lite....snappy little sucker with +P but
it means well.

Same thing with the 101. Bad first impression makes me less likely to
go back for more. Not saying it's a bad gun, enough people swear by
them. It's just personal preference.

As noted, that is why there are so many choices.....there is no one size
fits all.

Self abuse is supposed to be pleasureable, isn't it? 8)

As long as the gun fits..... it is pleasurable to shoot. One reason
why there are so many choices out there.

I had a Super Blackhawk in .44 Mag. You know the one with the squared
trigger guard? I loved it until the first session at the range. The
damn corner tore the Hell outta my knuckles. I was holdling it right,
it's just the way it recoiled.

Shoot a Redhawk sometime. Another excellent gun from Ruger.

OTOH my wife has the Ruger Mk II. Love it. Great to shoot. And my
heavy barrel 10/22? It's indecent how much I love that thing. I have
to watch when I shooting it because I can go through a LOT of .22 in
an afternoon, it's such a pleasure to shoot.

I use steel plate swingers and just try to keep 'em moving so I don't
have to worry about changing out paper targets. Man it's a blast!





--
Sleep well tonight,

RD (The Sandman)

WINE - Does not make you FAT....it makes you LEAN....
...against tables, chairs, floors, walls and ugly people...