"John Smith" wrote in message
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On 10/9/2011 10:15 PM, Thomas Heger wrote:
Am 10.10.2011 03:14, schrieb RHF:
On Oct 9, 9:31 am, Thomas wrote:
Am 09.10.2011 04:18, schrieb RHF:


Alcoholics are 'real addictive people' too !

Equal [RX] Treatment Under the Law would
require Free Alcohol for Drunks
-if- Free Drugs is provided for Dopers.

Tobacco Smokers are 'real addictive people' too !

Equal [RX] Treatment Under the Law would
require Free Cigarettes/Cigars for Smokers
-if- Free Drugs is provided for Dopers.

-again- ? why should 'i' work all day and
pay taxes to support someone else not working;
pluspay for them to get high/loaded on
illegal drugs& alcohol& tobacco ?
=no=joy= =no=joy= =no=joy= ~ RHF
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The government is not responsible for your daily kicks.
What I have written is a (possible) way to reduce drug-related crimes.

These crimes and the addictive people produce enormous costs for the
general public, because the police has to be behind them, they occupy
prison cells and beds in hospitals. They do not really work, and if
they
do something, than mostly illegal stuff.

Besides the health risk (Aids for example) and the dangers of crimes,
the costs are also worth to mention.

To reduce these costs, the policy about drugs could be changed. Than
taking the drug isn't wanted, but not a crime. Only drug-trade is
prosecuted.

And to dry out the market, the drugs are handed out for free, but only
to the real addictive people and only in special centres. This will not
allow any profit - or at least much less - from drug trading.


So to "Dry-Out" the Alcohol Market We Should
Give It Away for Free Too !

You cannot do that, because alcohol is in the end a cheap chemical, that
anybody could easily produce at home.

Crack is different and the kind of addiction is. This is, what makes
these substances so dangerous. Than crack is relatively expensive, hence
of much greater interest for criminals, because the profit rate is
enormously high. Only the business is very risky and one dealing with
drugs could easily end up in a prison (or worse).

To reduce the profit rate, the drug had to be cheaper, but less
available. This could only be achieved, if the substances are handed out
for free (or low price) in controlled situations.
This would modify the 'terms of trade', because the real addictive
people are then off the streets.

Alcohol is more a health problem for the individual, than a great deal
for the criminals. So alcoholism needs other means to to cure it.

So to "Dry-Out" the Tobacco Market We Should
Give It Away for Free Too !

You insist on this 'for free', but I don't. Actually a moderate (low)
price would have the same effect and would possibly look less dubious.

Tobacco is a risk for the health, too, but to smoke is an individual
decision and not such a problem for the society in general.


The addictive people do a lot of illegal things, like breaking into
homes, stealing cars, robbery and alike, to finance their addiction. So
these drug dealer profit in the end from these crimes.

The question for me was, how to reduce crime and not how to reduce the
individual costs for 'kicks'.


TH

Crack, methamphetamine and highly refined cocaine have removed people from
my life ... I believe that these drugs are highly dangerous. However, some
people do seem to be able to use them for recreation with few dangerous
repercussions, or even none at all ... some it kills quickly.

The worst thing I have noticed about methamphetamine (or crack) is that
people go crazy from lack of sleep, poor nutrition, etc. I would strongly
caution people NOT to consume these drugs, as in most cases where friends
or people I have known about have taken these drugs, to excess, it has
killed them, left them in mental wards, destroyed their health, etc.

Still, I would not have people punished for using these drugs -- they do
enough harm to themselves, why would I want to abuse them further ...
however, any crimes they commit should be prosecuted ... if people are
going to commit suicide, and they can't get drugs to do it with, they will
find another way ...

One thing to remember about all drugs of this nature is how much it was
adulterated and with what.

That is an unknown. Hence the regular occurrences of overdoses, and the
effects of toxins and chemicals which shouldn't even be in a drug.

What's been mixed in may be more of a danger than the drug itself.

Just saying.

One does have to wonder what the impact of a controlled pharmaceutical
grade form of these drugs would have vs the "bathroom gin" that's currently
in supply.