Am 15.10.2011 21:23, schrieb SaPeIsMa:

...
Since You most certainly don't trust me, I give you an example. (Only
one)

Look at this picture
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ap...unar_orbit.jpg

It shows the lunar orbiter and the moon.
Since there is no other choice, the photo was obviously taken from the
landing module 'Eagle'.

But the term 'orbiter' refers to the orbit, this vehicle keeps, while
the lander lands.
Landing zone is usually below the orbit, hence the lander cannot take
photos from the orbiter with the moon in the back.


So basically you're claiming that since the person putting the label on
did not necessarily have a good grasp of teminology, the photo is a fake ?

This is the kind of stupidity that is so typical of the conspiracy nuts


(Actually its not my business and I'm not a 'conspiracy nut'. )

But you Americans could start to think about this question:
if it was in fact a fake, than certainly a few bucks were redirected
into dark channels, but who has them and what purpose are they used for?

It's a LOT of money, that is (apparently) stolen from American
taxpayers. Is that a particular patriotic behaviour? Certainly not.

There were a few other developments in the 60'th worth to mention: JFK
assassination, 'hippies', Vietnam war ...


And there was - much later - 9-11. If that was a fake, too, than that
wouldn't qualify as very patriotic neither.

Don't know, how to put all these pieces together and it's actually not
my business, but I suggest you Americans try to do that.

TH

"Thomas Heger" wrote in message
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Am 15.10.2011 21:23, schrieb SaPeIsMa:

..
Since You most certainly don't trust me, I give you an example. (Only
one)

Look at this picture
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ap...unar_orbit.jpg

It shows the lunar orbiter and the moon.
Since there is no other choice, the photo was obviously taken from the
landing module 'Eagle'.

But the term 'orbiter' refers to the orbit, this vehicle keeps, while
the lander lands.
Landing zone is usually below the orbit, hence the lander cannot take
photos from the orbiter with the moon in the back.


So basically you're claiming that since the person putting the label on
did not necessarily have a good grasp of teminology, the photo is a fake
?

This is the kind of stupidity that is so typical of the conspiracy nuts


(Actually its not my business and I'm not a 'conspiracy nut'. )

But you Americans could start to think about this question:
if it was in fact a fake, than certainly a few bucks were redirected into
dark channels, but who has them and what purpose are they used for?

Who gives a ****, until you establish solid evidence that it actually
occurred, not some hypothetical "if".

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Do you hear the term "bat**** crazy" being whispered behind your back often?

If not, listen harder.

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Words of wisdom

What does not kill you... probably didn't cause enough tissue damage.

"Thomas Heger" wrote in message
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Am 15.10.2011 21:23, schrieb SaPeIsMa:

..
Since You most certainly don't trust me, I give you an example. (Only
one)

Look at this picture
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ap...unar_orbit.jpg

It shows the lunar orbiter and the moon.
Since there is no other choice, the photo was obviously taken from the
landing module 'Eagle'.

But the term 'orbiter' refers to the orbit, this vehicle keeps, while
the lander lands.
Landing zone is usually below the orbit, hence the lander cannot take
photos from the orbiter with the moon in the back.


So basically you're claiming that since the person putting the label on
did not necessarily have a good grasp of teminology, the photo is a fake
?

This is the kind of stupidity that is so typical of the conspiracy nuts


(Actually its not my business and I'm not a 'conspiracy nut'. )

But you Americans could start to think about this question:
if it was in fact a fake, than certainly a few bucks were redirected into
dark channels, but who has them and what purpose are they used for?

It's a LOT of money, that is (apparently) stolen from American taxpayers.
Is that a particular patriotic behaviour? Certainly not.

There were a few other developments in the 60'th worth to mention: JFK
assassination, 'hippies', Vietnam war ...


And there was - much later - 9-11. If that was a fake, too, than that
wouldn't qualify as very patriotic neither.

Don't know, how to put all these pieces together and it's actually not my
business, but I suggest you Americans try to do that.


You just proved that you qualify for the moniker "conspiracy nut"
The other word for that is "idiot"

Thomas Heger wrote in
:

Am 15.10.2011 21:23, schrieb SaPeIsMa:

..
Since You most certainly don't trust me, I give you an example.
(Only one)

Look at this picture
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ap...unar_orbit.jpg

It shows the lunar orbiter and the moon.
Since there is no other choice, the photo was obviously taken from
the landing module 'Eagle'.

But the term 'orbiter' refers to the orbit, this vehicle keeps,
while the lander lands.
Landing zone is usually below the orbit, hence the lander cannot
take photos from the orbiter with the moon in the back.


So basically you're claiming that since the person putting the label
on did not necessarily have a good grasp of teminology, the photo is
a fake ?

This is the kind of stupidity that is so typical of the conspiracy
nuts


(Actually its not my business and I'm not a 'conspiracy nut'. )

But you Americans could start to think about this question:
if it was in fact a fake, than certainly a few bucks were redirected
into dark channels, but who has them and what purpose are they used
for?

It's a LOT of money, that is (apparently) stolen from American
taxpayers. Is that a particular patriotic behaviour? Certainly not.

There were a few other developments in the 60'th worth to mention: JFK
assassination, 'hippies', Vietnam war ...


And there was - much later - 9-11. If that was a fake, too, than that
wouldn't qualify as very patriotic neither.

Don't know, how to put all these pieces together and it's actually not
my business, but I suggest you Americans try to do that.

TH


Several here have tried. You aren't unique no matter what your mum told
you. So far, none of their theories have held any more water than yours
have.

--
Sleep well tonight.........RD (The Sandman)

Witnessing Republicans and Democrats bickering over
the National Debt is like watching two drunks argue
over a bar bill on the Titanic.....

Am 16.10.2011 18:47, schrieb RD Sandman:
Thomas wrote in
:

...

This is the kind of stupidity that is so typical of the conspiracy
nuts


(Actually its not my business and I'm not a 'conspiracy nut'. )
...
Don't know, how to put all these pieces together and it's actually not
my business, but I suggest you Americans try to do that.

TH


Several here have tried. You aren't unique no matter what your mum told
you. So far, none of their theories have held any more water than yours
have.


I don't think so, because the people in the world act in a different
manners than you think. Knowledge follow an exponential curve. This
means, a certain idea is passed to - say - two (different) friends per
day - and so forth.
The idea spreads relatively slowly. But the last half of the Earth is
covered in a day. (Not quite, but as simplification)

So certain ideas are not visible for a very long time, but this doesn't
mean, they are not there. Only they are not visible.

But if the ideas have their own value and are is some respect 'better'
(as explanation), than they sooner or later outrun the competitors.

In the subjects you call 'conspiracies', there are several ideas, that
seem to be more 'true' (hence: 'truthers'), what gives these ideas
advantages over official explanations.

The 'truthers' will inevitably outrun official fairy tails, because
truth has advantages in explaining things.


TH

Thomas Heger wrote in news:9g1qeuFioqU1
@mid.individual.net:

Am 16.10.2011 18:47, schrieb RD Sandman:
Thomas wrote in
:

..

This is the kind of stupidity that is so typical of the conspiracy
nuts


(Actually its not my business and I'm not a 'conspiracy nut'. )
..
Don't know, how to put all these pieces together and it's actually
not
my business, but I suggest you Americans try to do that.

TH


Several here have tried. You aren't unique no matter what your mum
told
you. So far, none of their theories have held any more water than
yours
have.


I don't think so, because the people in the world act in a different
manners than you think.

Perhaps, perhaps not. You don't know what I think.

Knowledge follow an exponential curve. This
means, a certain idea is passed to - say - two (different) friends per
day - and so forth.
The idea spreads relatively slowly. But the last half of the Earth is
covered in a day. (Not quite, but as simplification)

My point was that your "truther" ideas are not unique to you, and in most
cases, didn't even start with you.

So certain ideas are not visible for a very long time, but this doesn't
mean, they are not there. Only they are not visible.

No one has claimed any different.

But if the ideas have their own value and are is some respect 'better'
(as explanation), than they sooner or later outrun the competitors.

Yes, but so far, the facts don't fit the conspiracy theories.

In the subjects you call 'conspiracies', there are several ideas, that
seem to be more 'true' (hence: 'truthers'), what gives these ideas
advantages over official explanations.

Only in the minds of those who have trouble handling the truth.

The 'truthers' will inevitably outrun official fairy tails, because
truth has advantages in explaining things.

Well, that happens (and it hasn't yet) it will be interesting....but so
far the truth remains and conspiracy theories are like weeds. If you
don't like the one you just saw, wait a bit and another will show up.


--
Sleep well tonight.........RD (The Sandman)

Witnessing Republicans and Democrats bickering over
the National Debt is like watching two drunks argue
over a bar bill on the Titanic.....

Am 17.10.2011 19:11, schrieb RD Sandman:
Thomas wrote in news:9g1qeuFioqU1
@mid.individual.net:

Am 16.10.2011 18:47, schrieb RD Sandman:
Thomas wrote in
:
...

This is the kind of stupidity that is so typical of the conspiracy
nuts


(Actually its not my business and I'm not a 'conspiracy nut'. )
..
...

Several here have tried. You aren't unique no matter what your mum
told
you. So far, none of their theories have held any more water than
yours
...


But if the ideas have their own value and are is some respect 'better'
(as explanation), than they sooner or later outrun the competitors.

Yes, but so far, the facts don't fit the conspiracy theories.

In the subjects you call 'conspiracies', there are several ideas, that
seem to be more 'true' (hence: 'truthers'), what gives these ideas
advantages over official explanations.

Only in the minds of those who have trouble handling the truth.

The 'truthers' will inevitably outrun official fairy tails, because
truth has advantages in explaining things.

Well, that happens (and it hasn't yet) it will be interesting....but so
far the truth remains and conspiracy theories are like weeds. If you
don't like the one you just saw, wait a bit and another will show up.

Certainly interesting...

What if these 'theories' are in fact true. Not every one of course, but
one of them. What would it tell you about the people in the government?
No good things, I guess.

Hope everything comes to a good end. But there are dangers and that is
the possibility of massive violence in your country.

This could not be beneficial for the rest of the world. My suggestion
would be, that Americans try to solve their issues, possibly in a
peaceful manner.

Greetings

Thomas

"Thomas Heger" wrote in message
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Am 17.10.2011 19:11, schrieb RD Sandman:

Well, that happens (and it hasn't yet) it will be interesting....but so
far the truth remains and conspiracy theories are like weeds. If you
don't like the one you just saw, wait a bit and another will show up.

Certainly interesting...

What if these 'theories' are in fact true. Not every one of course, but
one of them. What would it tell you about the people in the government? No
good things, I guess.

Hope everything comes to a good end. But there are dangers and that is the
possibility of massive violence in your country.

This could not be beneficial for the rest of the world. My suggestion
would be, that Americans try to solve their issues, possibly in a peaceful
manner.

Greetings

Thomas

Maybe you should spend a bit of time studying some comparative history
Let's say comparing the US and Germany over the last 100 years
Do tell us which of the 2 countries has had more violence against it's own
people and against it's neighbors over the last 2 centuries
And how many people died because of those actions

Before you ignorantly tell others what they should be doing, I strongly
suggest that you make sure your own house is in order.

Wild dogs terrorizing Saint Louis.
http://www.drudgereport.com

The three S S S.Shoot, Shovel, and Shut Up.

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