"bpnjensen" wrote in message
oups.com...
Frankly, as a person who does not approve of the stodginess of the
Catholic Church anyway, I am happy to see it do anything to itself that
will alienate people. There are other effective ways to approach God
and Christianity, and they don't necessarily involve living in poverty
while the Vatican hoardes massive funds and begs adherents to keep that
cycle of poverty and pain going by pumping out endless children.

Jean-Paul was a kind man; the new Pope may be likewise - but their
ancient and artificial (and largely hypocritical) ways do not mesh well
with the realities of 2005's wider world. I say, let the Church
collapse on itself.

Bruce Jensen

So, I take it you are one of those people who thinks fashion and opinion
is more important than truth, and that truth should be subjec to the way
you "feel," and the mood you're in at any given moment? Fortunately,
there are men with strength who will, perhaps, die trying to prevent that.

Your kindness and sense of compassion and liberal open-mindedness have
been duly noted.

Benedict XVI had to pause a moment before speaking today because the
homosexuals booed and jeered him, yet I'm sure he'll refuse to bow to them.

I have to wonder: If someone is a Sodomite, and they want a Catholic-like
church, why don't they simply make their own faith, and find their own way?

I'd say that rather than permitting the collapse of the Church, they have
done
much to attempt to destroy it.

73,

Steve

--
Steve Lawrence
Burnsville, Minnesota

Every moment of a human life is an act of worship.

Coincidence is God's way of being anonymous.

I'm very happy with the man the Cardinals chose.

Ratzinger is a man who understands that truth is not
subject to public opinion, and who refuses to do a
thing simply because that thing is in fashion.

We need more men (and women) like him.

73,

Steve

--
Steve Lawrence
Burnsville, Minnesota

Every moment of a human life is an act of worship.

Coincidence is God's way of being anonymous.

"John S." wrote in message
oups.com...
I think that choosing a Pope from South or Central America would have
helped the church in more than one way.

First it would signal to the world that the church is not as closed to
something as radical as a non-european pope. Seems kind of strange to
characterize such a change a radical when other religions include
females as a matter of course.

Second, it would have helped the church with membership in Brazil and
other south american countries where membership has been lost to more
open non-catholic religions.

"We need more men (and women) like him."

I doubt that under this pope you will see women and men in equivalent
positions within the church, if that was what you meant by the
parenthetical reference to women.

Ratzinger is a man who understands that truth is not
subject to public opinion, and who refuses to do a
thing simply because that thing is in fashion.

Yeah, like that Hitler Youth outfit he was in many moons ago - nothing
fashionable or expedient about that - only Truth.

I am being facetious here - at this point in his life and given the
high probability that he was totally innocent of any war crimes, it is
unimportant - but like any other human, he has no monopoly on Truth.
Let us hope he has the wisdom to be just.

Bruce Jensen

Yeah, they should have picked a mainland Chinese from the underground
Catholic church there.
That would have stuck a staff up those Chi-Com's A-hole real good - LOL!

"John S." wrote in message
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And from the world of instant internet communications german Cardinal
Ratzinger is the new pope. Too bad they can't break away from
europeans.....

On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:57:48 -0400, dxAce
wrote:

Check out the demon on the Pope's stick:

http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1359.cfm

Demon? That's Jesus Christ on the crucifix, you moron. And no, I'm not
Catholic.

David wrote:
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:57:48 -0400, dxAce
wrote:

Check out the demon on the Pope's stick:

http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1359.cfm

On 19 Apr 2005 11:20:54 -0700, "Invader3K"
wrote:

Demon? That's Jesus Christ on the crucifix, you moron. And no, I'm not
Catholic.

David wrote:
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:57:48 -0400, dxAce
wrote:

Check out the demon on the Pope's stick:

http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1359.cfm

An H.. R. Giger version perhaps. Look more carefully.

http://www.hrgiger.com/

"David" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:57:48 -0400, dxAce
wrote:

Check out the demon on the Pope's stick:

http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1359.cfm

HAAHA. That site would make Alex Jones cringe.