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Old January 13th 06, 07:50 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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Default (OT) : DaviD - Once Again 'you' treat us to more EnlightenedLiberalism !



David wrote:

On 13 Jan 2006 11:25:18 -0800, "RHF"
wrote:

DaviD - "dog-eating Jap company."

DaviD - Once Again 'you' treat us to more Enlightened Liberalism !
{Liberal Bias and Left-Wing Bigotry}

DaviD - 'you' make such a Great 'little' Spokes Person
for the Democrat Party of the USA ! ~ RHF
.
.

Neither a Democratic nor a Liberal, Flanders.

I am a pragmatic anarchist.


No you're not. You're a mentally ill 'tard boy.

LMFAO at the stem.

dxAce
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Old January 13th 06, 08:06 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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Default Eton E1 Recall

There are similarities, although not to the degree as between the SW8
and the Satellit 800. In Van Horn's E1 review in Monitoring Times, it
is written that "Drake did have a major hand in the electronics of this
unit."

http://www.monitoringtimes.com/html/...k-etone1xm.pdf

Someone in the Yahoo! E1 group had grouped together some comparative
data from the current and previous editions of Passport to World Band
Radio. Perhaps you might find it interesting:

Dynamic Range/IP3 (5 kHz):

1. AOR AR7030 82 dB / +1 dBm
2. Drake R8B 75 dB / -20 dBm
3. Watkins-Johnson WJ-8711A 74 dB / -18 dBm
4. Sony ICF-2010 68 dB / -21 dBm
5. Drake SW8 67 dB / -26 dBm
6. Sony ICF-SW77 64 dB / -37 dBm
7. Eton E1XM 55 dB / -50 dBm
8. Ten-Tec RX-340 46 dB / -55 dBm

Dynamic Range/IP3 (20 kHz):

1. AOR AR7030 100 dB / +28 dBm
2. Watkins-Johnson WJ-8711A 99 dB / +20 dBm
3. Ten-Tec RX-340 93 dB / +9 dBm
4. Drake SW8 92 dB / +11 dBm
5. Drake R8B 89 dB / +2 dBm
6. Eton E1XM 87 dB / -2 dBm
7. Sony ICF-SW77 82 dB / -10 dBm
8. Sony ICF-2010 80 dB / -9 dBm

Image Rejection:

1. Ten-Tec RX-340 100 dB
1. AOR AR7030 100 dB
2. Eton E1XM 90 dB
3. Drake R8B 85 dB
4. Watkins-Johnson WJ-8711A 80 dB
4. Sony ICF-SW77 80 dB
5. Drake SW8 64 dB
6. Grundig Satellit 800 63 dB
7. Sony ICF-2010 62 dB

First IF Rejection:

1. Ten-Tec RX-340 100 dB
2. AOR AR7030 95 dB
3. Drake R8B 90 dB
4. Grundig Satellit 800 86 dB
5. Sony ICF-2010 85 dB
6. Sony ICF-SW77 80 dB
6. Drake SW8 80 dB
7. Eton E1XM 75 dB

Blocking:

1. Drake R8B 135 dB
2. Grundig Satellit 800 132 dB
3. AOR AR7030 130 dB
4. Drake SW8 125 dB
5. Watkins-Johnson WJ-8711A 123 dB
5. Eton E1XM 123 dB
6. Sony ICF-SW77 121 dB
7. Ten-Tec RX-340 109 dB
8. Sony ICF-2010 109 dB

AGC Threshold:

1. Drake R8B 0.9 uV, Superb
1. Drake SW8 0.9 uV, Superb
2. Grundig Satellit 800 0.8 uV, Superb
3. Sony ICF-2010 0.6 uV, Excellent
4. Ten-Tec RX-340 0.5 uV / 0.13 uV (preamp off/on,
Excellent/Poor)
5. Eton E1XM 0.3 uV, Good
6. Sony ICF-SW77 2.0 uV, Good
7. AOR AR7030 2.25 uV, Good
8. Watkins-Johnson WJ-8711A 0.11 uV, Poor

Phase Noise:

1. AOR AR7030 130 dBc
2. Sony ICF-SW77 122 dBc
3. Watkins-Johnson WJ-8711A 115 dBc
4. Drake R8B 114 dBc
4. Sony ICF-2010 114 dBc
5. Ten-Tec RX-340 113 dBc
5. Eton E1XM 113 dBc
5. Drake SW8 113 dBc
6. Grundig Satellit 800 111 dBc

Overall Distortion, sync:

1. Drake R8B 0.4 %
2. Drake SW8 1.2 %
3. AOR AR7030 2.0 %
4. Sony ICF-SW77 2.3 %, 3.3 % (Wide/Narrow)
5. Grundig Satellit 800 2.4 %
6. Ten-Tec RX-340 2.6 %
6. Eton E1XM 2.6 %
7. Sony ICF-2010 2.9 %, 3.5 % (Wide/Narrow)
8. Watkins-Johnson WJ-8711A 8.2 %

Max. Sensitivity:

1. Watkins-Johnson WJ-8711A 0.13 uV
2. Ten-Tec RX-340 0.14 uV
3. Sony ICF-2010 0.15 uV
3. Eton E1XM 0.15 uV
4. Sony ICF-SW77 0.16 uV
5. Drake R8B 0.2 uV
6. AOR AR7030 0.2 uV
7. Grundig Satellit 800 0.23 uV
8. Drake SW8 0.32 uV

Ultimate Rejection:

1. AOR AR7030 90 dB
2. Watkins-Johnson WJ-8711A 80 dB
3. Drake R8B 80 dB
3. Eton E1XM 80 dB
4. Ten-Tec RX-340 70 dB
4. Grundig Satellit 800 70 dB
4. Drake SW8 70 dB
4. Sony ICF-SW77 70 dB
4. Sony ICF-2010 70 dB



rkhalona wrote:
The E1 seems to be an SW8 in a *Grundig* Sat900 case plus XM added.

RK


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Old January 13th 06, 08:11 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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Default Eton E1 Recall

No doubt the safety issue is more severe than performance problems, so
I fully understand that.

Maybe "recall" isn't the right terminology to describe post-sale
corrections of known & widespread performance related problems due to
faulty design, etc. In those cases, I think the mfgr has some
obligation to make things right.



D Peter Maus wrote:
wavetrapper wrote:
Well, I think we should give Eton a little credit here. (1) They
fessed up to a problem [they did not do so with the Sat800] and (2)
they are offering make the owners whole plus provide a "premium" for
the inconvenience.



The case of Sat800 was different than the E1 recall, in that Sat 800
issues were matters of inconsistent quality, with a number of technical
bugs that were worked out on the refurb table.

The matter of E1 is a safety issue. And one that occurs with
increasing frequency across many electronic lines as battery technology
and chemistry changes. I just got a new battery in the mail, unbidden,
btw, from Delphi for my MyFi. Seems that the original battery, too, has
a bit of an overheating problem, related to a series of batteries
manufactured in China.

A similar recall was issued by Nikon for my DSLR battery, which was
also a short run Chinese issue. Overheating and potential damage or
injury, again, the case. In both cases, replacement of the battery, made
in India was the solution.

A recall for Sat 800 would have made no sense. Whereas in the case of
E1, a recall forestalls a number of potentially larger problems.


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wrote in message
So far as I can tell, Eton doesn't have one whit of respect for its
customers, which is also probably why it resorts to silly tricks like
E1 to sell more radios to the untutored buyer.


Seems to me that Eton is bending over backwards to make their problems right
for their customers.


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Old January 14th 06, 01:49 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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Default (OT) : DaviD - Once Again 'you' treat us to more Enlightened Li...

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 16:50:12 -0500, dxAce
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David wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 13:43:48 -0600, wrote:

Dont Forget,,, I am always Right.
cuhulin

I'm half left.


You're a half wit, 'tard boy.

LMFAO yet again at the stupid stem.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


Some people call me a wit, and they're half right.



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