On Apr 8, 7:37 pm, Richard Clark wrote:
On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 16:37:43 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
a government grant surely would be inevitable.

But just think of this constant Z response to infinity!

No more Gamma Matching to (don't stare into the) Gamma raze.

No more changing jX in X-raze either.

Can we afford the connector adapter (and does Wireman carry it)?

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Richard
Over the years you have insulted my work as I have shared most of it
with my fellow hams.
I shared with all the details of my antenna work and in this thread I
have shared with all
how I utelised the connection between mechanical laws and electrical
laws of Maxwell Gauss
Newton and the proof with respect to radiation. This last thread
proves the existence of the universal
law where I used the mechanical laws of the pendulum and applied them
to the electrical laws
which produced the antenna. It is this proof that I have provided
which is the most important step
in my work.Considering that Einstein spent his whole life searching
for this and eventually turned
away from the classics to those of relativity makes me very proud of
my work.
I shared it with hams because of their love with respect to antennas
but that is a love of the past.
I am extremely disapointed that hams did not go on this jorney with me
or even supply encouragement.
However I am now at the end of my quest and thus will retreat from
this newsgroup where it appears
emotion has overtaken the the employment of skill to pursue the holy
grail that most have given up.
Regards to all as I depart where I will not be privey to your replies
and can thus concentrate on other matters.
Art Unwin KB9MZ....XG an east ender from the UK)(

On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 08:16:50 -0700 (PDT), Art Unwin
wrote:

Over the years you have insulted my work as I have shared most of it
with my fellow hams.

No Arthur, you are simply confused about the distinction between
criticism of stupidity and your effort to prove it.

Your effort is all well and good, but it does not elevate stupidity to
the ranks of academic achievement; and neither does robbing textbooks,
and slurring your fellow hams remove the tarnish from your theories.

I will not be privey to your replies
and can thus concentrate on other matters.

Oh, something tells me you will be privy to this - enjoy! (privey
indeed. One would think when you use a Briticism, you would know how
to spell it - and for that matter, what it means!)

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Really? http://home.comcast.net/~xtxinc/prioritymyth.htm


"Art Unwin" wrote in message
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On Apr 8, 7:37 pm, Richard Clark wrote:
On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 16:37:43 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
a government grant surely would be inevitable.

But just think of this constant Z response to infinity!

No more Gamma Matching to (don't stare into the) Gamma raze.

No more changing jX in X-raze either.

Can we afford the connector adapter (and does Wireman carry it)?

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Richard
Over the years you have insulted my work as I have shared most of it
with my fellow hams.
I shared with all the details of my antenna work and in this thread I
have shared with all
how I utelised the connection between mechanical laws and electrical
laws of Maxwell Gauss
Newton and the proof with respect to radiation. This last thread
proves the existence of the universal
law where I used the mechanical laws of the pendulum and applied them
to the electrical laws
which produced the antenna. It is this proof that I have provided
which is the most important step
in my work.Considering that Einstein spent his whole life searching
for this and eventually turned
away from the classics to those of relativity makes me very proud of
my work.
I shared it with hams because of their love with respect to antennas
but that is a love of the past.
I am extremely disapointed that hams did not go on this jorney with me
or even supply encouragement.
However I am now at the end of my quest and thus will retreat from
this newsgroup where it appears
emotion has overtaken the the employment of skill to pursue the holy
grail that most have given up.
Regards to all as I depart where I will not be privey to your replies
and can thus concentrate on other matters.
Art Unwin KB9MZ....XG an east ender from the UK)(

Art - It's spring time! Lets Go Fishin' .


"Art Unwin" wrote in message
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On Apr 8, 7:37 pm, Richard Clark wrote:
On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 16:37:43 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
a government grant surely would be inevitable.

But just think of this constant Z response to infinity!

No more Gamma Matching to (don't stare into the) Gamma raze.

No more changing jX in X-raze either.

Can we afford the connector adapter (and does Wireman carry it)?

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Richard
Over the years you have insulted my work as I have shared most of it
with my fellow hams.
I shared with all the details of my antenna work and in this thread I
have shared with all
how I utelised the connection between mechanical laws and electrical
laws of Maxwell Gauss
Newton and the proof with respect to radiation. This last thread
proves the existence of the universal
law where I used the mechanical laws of the pendulum and applied them
to the electrical laws
which produced the antenna. It is this proof that I have provided
which is the most important step
in my work.Considering that Einstein spent his whole life searching
for this and eventually turned
away from the classics to those of relativity makes me very proud of
my work.
I shared it with hams because of their love with respect to antennas
but that is a love of the past.
I am extremely disapointed that hams did not go on this jorney with me
or even supply encouragement.
However I am now at the end of my quest and thus will retreat from
this newsgroup where it appears
emotion has overtaken the the employment of skill to pursue the holy
grail that most have given up.
Regards to all as I depart where I will not be privey to your replies
and can thus concentrate on other matters.
Art Unwin KB9MZ....XG an east ender from the UK)(

Art Unwin, KB9MZ wrote:
"Regards to all as I depart----."

Would Art cut and run if his claim of an antenna for HF that deployed in
the size of two shoe boxes and that performed as well as an antenna that
deployed to a significant fraction of a wavelength were so? I think not.
It has always been a fairy tale.

Truth is, a small antenna has a small radiation resistance. Ratio of the
radiation resistance to the antenna`s total resistance predicts its
efficiency. Available materials mean we must use large antennas to get
efficiency.

Don`t go away mad, Art. Your stories are entertaining and make us think.
Just don`t expect baloney to pass unchallenged.

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI

On Apr 10, 3:58 am, (Richard Harrison)
wrote:


Would Art cut and run if his claim of an antenna for HF that deployed in
the size of two shoe boxes and that performed as well as an antenna that
deployed to a significant fraction of a wavelength were so? I think not.
It has always been a fairy tale.


Aaah but then sometimes fairy tales come true.

If you think art has cut and run because his claims are false I
suggest you think again, more likely he has "finally"come to the
realization he is wasting his time with people whose eyes are
blinkered by the ghosts of the past and reject anything that is not
written in a book.
The time for disclosure is coming closer and I forecast that when
it
comes the so called guru's on this group will choke on their word's.

Derek

On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:11:10 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

I forecast that when it
comes the so called guru's on this group will choke on their word's.

Hi Derek,

Your forecasting ability would be better served if you actually did
something. One project that comes to mind is your Guru's own design,
that he has explicitly revealed here. It is notable for being easy to
construct and to erect; and offering boon to every user.

Those "supporters" that have faith in Art's design should be able to
give us reports of their own efforts of testing his antenna in his
behalf.

But that doesn't happen.

This fair weather enthusiasm can only be attributable to his
"supporters" patronizing attitude towards Art where they think of him
as a doddering eccentric that needs a chuck under the chin to keep his
spirits up. Such is the mawkish sentimentality of your post that
survives quoted above.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

On Apr 11, 11:59 pm, Richard Clark wrote:


Your forecasting ability would be better served if you actually did
something.


Hi Richard

I put your suggestion back to you, give me a convincing argument as
to why Art's antenna would not be viable, apart from the knee jerk
reaction it was designed by Art therefore it cannot be viable.

Derek

On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 06:04:17 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Apr 11, 11:59 pm, Richard Clark wrote:


Your forecasting ability would be better served if you actually did
something.


Hi Richard

I put your suggestion back to you, give me a convincing argument as
to why Art's antenna would not be viable, apart from the knee jerk
reaction it was designed by Art therefore it cannot be viable.

Hi Derek,

Put it back to me? Talk about passivity. As I said, I see nothing in
your reply that actually GOES to any active supporting participation
by you, simply maudlin cheerleading. This is fey effort at appearing
to be gracious.

I have modeled ALL of Art's contraptions. Art has modeled them all
too. I have offered the results of that work. Art rarely offers the
results of his work. I have built enough models into wire and
aluminum (and foils and coils) to find that they all conform to models
within suitable accuracy. Art has built enough models into.... and
has to date never expressed how they directly compare. The archives
are complete to this record - available to anyone with an actual
interest in the topic. The results? Pitifully dull where the
imagination is reserved for the rhetoric of claims cloaked in a fog of
ersatz academia.

You aren't really interested are you? You can't even answer the
simple questions about his designs, nor name one advantage pressed
against actual performance shown. What are you here for? Slumming
for amusement and Art fills the bill? Just another Troll.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

On Apr 12, 12:56 pm, Richard Clark wrote:
Art has modeled them all
too.

I think modeling is how he gets started with these things.
That freaking optimizer program that shows him how to
build a skewed 6 element antenna with the performance
of the usual 3 element. What a breakthrough... :/
I called that particular antenna the "cluster%$#@"....
Then then he abandoned that one and decided to go with the
coil antenna he's pushing now.
Viable? Sure it's viable if you don't mind a puny signal.
Note the Isotron.. To me, not a whole heck of a lot
different than what Art proposes. Arts version may
be slightly inferior though..
And some people do buy and use them.. Mostly
ones with yards the size of clothes closets and have
no other choice but to try small antennas of that ilk.
I doubt any of those users really feel like they are
setting the woods on fire.
I knew a guy here locally that ran one for a while
on 75m. He was able to radiate, but a vast majority
of the people on frequency could not hear him.
I think he retired that antenna after a while.
I suspect he ran out of hair to pull out...
And as mentioned, quite a few QSO's have been
made using dummy load light bulbs.
Usually by accident when they forgot to flip the
switch to the real antenna...
Is a light bulb viable as an antenna?
I suppose.. But don't try to claim it is an efficient
radiator.
To sum.. Art suffers delusions of grandeur induced
by various modeling program optimizers.
This can happen to anyone. But... most people
will verify if the data is true by comparing to known
reference antennas. Art does not do this.
He places unflinching blind trust into these programs.
And they have led him astray from reality.
Woe is Art.