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John Smith wrote:
Roy Lewallen wrote: Basic physics is fine, but it's possible to reach all sorts of invalid conclusions if misapplied. Roy Lewallen, W7EL I have been thinking about this "comment." And, absolutely!; Things only get more interesting when we can "bend" the laws ... ;-) Regards, JS Again, gettin' old ... Fortunate to have Roy, Cecil and others here ... I, certainly, would get bored without them ... someone I can have a "difference" with ... but then agree with. Life is not just good, it is EXCELLENT ... ! and, when they are right, they are RIGHT! Regards, JS |
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John Smith wrote:
Things only get more interesting when we can "bend" the laws ... ;-) "Whattaya mean 'we', White Man?" Every miracle performed in "The Bible" can be performed by man today probably including keeping a man technically dead for three days and then reviving him (any volunteers?). I suspect every technical "law" known to man will be broken in the next 1000 years, if not in the next 100 years. We have already eaten of the Tree of Knowledge. It will only be a matter of time until we eat of the Tree of (Eternal) Life, relatively speaking. -- 73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com |
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Cecil Moore wrote:
John Smith wrote: Things only get more interesting when we can "bend" the laws ... ;-) "Whattaya mean 'we', White Man?" Every miracle performed in "The Bible" can be performed by man today probably including keeping a man technically dead for three days and then reviving him (any volunteers?). Well, I don't think we can cover the entire earth with water past the height of the tallest mountains. Like that ever happened tho'. I suspect every technical "law" known to man will be broken in the next 1000 years, if not in the next 100 years. We have already eaten of the Tree of Knowledge. It will only be a matter of time until we eat of the Tree of (Eternal) Life, relatively speaking. I agree, if we manage to survive that long. Which I do not find all that likely. Or at least if we do, our innate instincts will ensure that we are at nowhere near the technical level we are today. More likely our tendency to overpopulate, not plan ahead, and kill anyone who doesn't look or think as we do will probably leave the survivors to emulate a lifestyle more akin to the middle ages. There are even some nutters among us who don't have a problem with that. - 73 de Mike N3LI - |
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Cecil Moore wrote:
... "Whattaya mean 'we', White Man?" Every miracle performed in "The Bible" can be performed by man today probably including keeping a man technically dead for three days and then reviving him (any volunteers?). I suspect every technical "law" known to man will be broken in the next 1000 years, if not in the next 100 years. We have already eaten of the Tree of Knowledge. It will only be a matter of time until we eat of the Tree of (Eternal) Life, relatively speaking. Interesting "take" on things ... and again, more correct than in error. :-) I am thinking about sending ya' the wifes pie plates ... grin Regards, JS |
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Michael Coslo wrote:
Well, I don't think we can cover the entire earth with water past the height of the tallest mountains. Like that ever happened tho'. The original languages, like our own version of English, had numerous definitions of "earth". I can cover the "entire earth" in my handful of earth with a pint of water. At the time of that original tale, man had absolutely no concept of a 8000 mile diameter "planet earth". "Earth" was as far (and as flat) as one could see and I have seen Texas floods, in my lifetime, where nothing but water could be seen. :-) Heck, I have been sailing on Clear Lake, out by NASA, when I couldn't see anything but water in all directions. -- 73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com |
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John Smith wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote: ... Cecil: There are few times in life when a "mind", such as you/yours CAN display an/multiple "interesting path(s)", as you do, to the likes of myself -- it comes to "the attention", so frequently, and so rightly so. I "feel good" about this ... I only wish there were more of you ... hang it their man, God loves you! (for krists' sake, I notice!) With the most warmest regards, JS |
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"Owen Duffy" wrote in message ... "826" wrote in : Hi, Sorry I didn't rely sooner. The weather hasn't been too good hear. This morning I disconnected the coax from the shack and measured the antenna with the six foot length of coax. It looked OK. I then connected just the shield of the long coax going to the shack and still measuring with the short coax it shifted just like measured before in the shack. I have then made up a choke balun and installed it at the base of the antenna and it improved everything by about 60%. I will now make another one for the shack end. I think everything is under control now. Thanks to all for heading me in the right direction. Vern M0WQR Vern, whilst the choke made a difference, the fact that there remains a difference in the feedpoint impedance with the shield connected and disconnected, even when using the choke, indicates that there is some effects observable from common mode feed line current in your scenario. If you want a measurement of the antenna as it would be used, measure it as it would be used... make sure the shield current path is as it would be used. Owen Hi all, The antenna is now working very well on all bands. After installing both choke baluns at the antenna base and in the shack, the resonant points measured from the shack end were the same as with the short coax at the antenna without the longer coax shield connected. Everything is OK now. All it needed was the two baluns. Regards Vern M0WQR |
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In article , Cecil Moore
wrote: John Smith wrote: Things only get more interesting when we can "bend" the laws ... ;-) "Whattaya mean 'we', White Man?" Every miracle performed in "The Bible" can be performed by man today probably including keeping a man technically dead for three days and then reviving him (any volunteers?). Hello, Cecil, and not quite. I don't know what you mean by "keeping a man technically dead" but I've haven't seen any reports on 5000 people being fed with a couple of fish, two people who were quite dead brought back to life or a person who was blind from birth given the capability of sight. Or the silly notion that a human being could be killed and, with assistance from a "higher authority", return to earth in physical form. Of course a lot of folks find the very idea that these events could have happened, let alone a couple of millenia ago, is a bunch of crap. Still one must concede in spite of one's spiritual beliefs that given a sufficient level of technology, one can indeed perform miraculous feats. Perhaps we will be able to do (some of) these things some day, but not today. Sincerely, 73s, and with apologies for injecting OT philosophy, John Wood (Code 5550) e-mail: Naval Research Laboratory 4555 Overlook Avenue, SW Washington, DC 20375-5337 |
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J. B. Wood wrote:
... Or the silly notion that a human being could be killed and, with assistance from a "higher authority", return to earth in physical form. ... John Wood (Code 5550) e-mail: Naval Research Laboratory 4555 Overlook Avenue, SW Washington, DC 20375-5337 I don't know about all that, I would look closer ... they are implanting stem cells in the retina and restoring sight and all that now ... I would at least do a complete search of the web first ... However, you are quite correct "some people" do have some strange, quaint and bizarre beliefs ... for example: the belief I can take a handful of wood, glass, metal and plastic, toss 'em into a mud puddle and come back a couple of million years later and start digging up microwaves, cell phones, televisions, etc. (it is called, "evolution!") Yep, you just can never tell what some people can be caused to believe! Regards, JS |
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826 wrote:
... Owen Hi all, The antenna is now working very well on all bands. After installing both choke baluns at the antenna base and in the shack, the resonant points measured from the shack end were the same as with the short coax at the antenna without the longer coax shield connected. Everything is OK now. All it needed was the two baluns. Regards Vern M0WQR Your path sounds very similar to mine. At first, unless the plans/specs called for a balun/choke, I ignored the need. Now I use one, or more, no matter what ... I picked up that knowledge here. At first, the loss of the balun/choke made me hesitant--I no longer worry about those trivial matters. :-) Regards, JS |
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