"Jeff" napisal w wiadomosci
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On 02/06/2012 18:58, Szczepan Bialek wrote:
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But is the another phenomenon. The Luxembourg effect.
The dipole radiate the doubled frequency.
S*

That is NOT the Luxembourg Effect. The Luxembourg effect is/was cross
modulation of 2 stations due to non-linearities in the atmosphere.

It is an explanation.
The Luxembourg effect WAS the receiving of LW from Luxembourg mast on the
MW
receivers tuned to the doubled frequency..
S*



No it wasn't, it was receiving the audio from Radio Luxembourg, whilst
tuned to and receiving another MW station (not at twice the frequency).

In 1933 newspaper was wrote that exactly twice.

That is you heard both stations simultaneously. This is nothing to do with
harmonics at twice the frequency, it is a phenomenon known as cross
modulation.

Is the cross modulation if the LW are from the monopole antenna?
S*

Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"Jeff" napisal w wiadomosci
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On 02/06/2012 18:58, Szczepan Bialek wrote:
napisal w wiadomosci
...


But is the another phenomenon. The Luxembourg effect.
The dipole radiate the doubled frequency.
S*

That is NOT the Luxembourg Effect. The Luxembourg effect is/was cross
modulation of 2 stations due to non-linearities in the atmosphere.

It is an explanation.
The Luxembourg effect WAS the receiving of LW from Luxembourg mast on the
MW
receivers tuned to the doubled frequency..
S*



No it wasn't, it was receiving the audio from Radio Luxembourg, whilst
tuned to and receiving another MW station (not at twice the frequency).

In 1933 newspaper was wrote that exactly twice.

And like many of your other ancient references, it was wrong.

There is no relationship to the frequencies.

That is you heard both stations simultaneously. This is nothing to do with
harmonics at twice the frequency, it is a phenomenon known as cross
modulation.

Is the cross modulation if the LW are from the monopole antenna?

Cross modulation has absolutely nothing to do with antennas.

It is an effect caused by a perturbed region of the ionosphere far from
the antennas.

You are a babbling idiot.

"Jeff" napisal w wiadomosci
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No it wasn't, it was receiving the audio from Radio Luxembourg, whilst
tuned to and receiving another MW station (not at twice the frequency).

In 1933 newspaper was wrote that exactly twice.

That is you heard both stations simultaneously. This is nothing to do
with
harmonics at twice the frequency, it is a phenomenon known as cross
modulation.

Is the cross modulation if the LW are from the monopole antenna?
S*


I don not understand what you are trying to ask, The Luxembourg effect wa
son MW not LW, and it has nothing to do with antennas, it is mixing in the
ionosphere of 2 signals.

"In 1933, Radio Luxembourg opened a 200 kW long wave transmitter,
broadcasting in English from the Grand Duchy in the afternoons and
evenings."
From: http://frequencyfinder.org.uk/trans_hist1.html

It was a dipole mast. The same was in Warsaw . The same effect was observed
(the LW were received on radio set as MW).
Now is a 1/4 WL mast and no the effect.
S*

Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"Jeff" napisal w wiadomosci
...

No it wasn't, it was receiving the audio from Radio Luxembourg, whilst
tuned to and receiving another MW station (not at twice the frequency).

In 1933 newspaper was wrote that exactly twice.

That is you heard both stations simultaneously. This is nothing to do
with
harmonics at twice the frequency, it is a phenomenon known as cross
modulation.

Is the cross modulation if the LW are from the monopole antenna?
S*


I don not understand what you are trying to ask, The Luxembourg effect wa
son MW not LW, and it has nothing to do with antennas, it is mixing in the
ionosphere of 2 signals.

"In 1933, Radio Luxembourg opened a 200 kW long wave transmitter,
broadcasting in English from the Grand Duchy in the afternoons and
evenings."
From: http://frequencyfinder.org.uk/trans_hist1.html

And the LW station caused cross modulation of a MW station, resulting
in the LW station being heard at the same time as the MW station on
the MW station frequency.

It was a dipole mast. The same was in Warsaw . The same effect was observed
(the LW were received on radio set as MW).
Now is a 1/4 WL mast and no the effect.

Incoherent, meaningles babble.

The Luxembourg effect has nothing to do with antennas and happens in the
ionosphere.