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Frank Gilliland wrote:
In , Steveo
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Frank Gilliland wrote:
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Frank Gilliland wrote:
You're a bible-thumper, Twist -- what do you think?

A freeband preacher!? We're doomed. g

Well, at least the band will sound like the rest of HF.

Who's playing?

Faith +1

Cool. That's a Credence cover band, right? yoohoo!

How about devil went down to
Georgia, CDB.

Landshark

Elvis Bishop settin' on a bale of hay?

Would calling all cows fit his
needs? G (Elvin Bishop)

I know. I seen it after I hit send.."He ain't good lookin' but
he sure can play".

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"SOME GET STRONG, SOME GET STRANGE,
SOONER OR LATER IT ALL GETS REAL,
WALK ON, WALK ON.
Neil Young

i'm gonna ride my lama from peru to tex-arcana..neil young two.

His new album not to bad, heard
it the other day.

Landshark

It's a whole story book about a fictional family. Leave it
to Neil.

From: (Frank=A0Gilliland)
In ,
(Twistedhed) wrote: snip
Using the "F" word is not taking the lord's name in vain.
_
Interesting topic, this "taking the lord's name in
vain" issue. I have heard lots of holy-rollers

whine and cry when someone says "god

damn". But what really is god's name? Doesn't
the bible say that god's name is unknowable?

Like, when Moses asked god for his name, all

he got was, "I am". So if nobody knows the

name of god, how can anybody use it in vain? _
By intentionally referring to the almighty..the term a mortal applies
is irrelevant.
_
You're a bible-thumper, Twist -- what do you

think?

I think some are in a sad state concerning God. Those who obviously are
in dire need of spiritual direction and refer to one who believes in the
God of Abraham as a "Bible-thumper",,,continue to produce the most
inaccurate posts regarding anything to date.

_
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In ,
(Twistedhed) wrote:

From: (Frank*Gilliland)
In ,
(Twistedhed) wrote: snip
Using the "F" word is not taking the lord's name in vain.
_
Interesting topic, this "taking the lord's name in
vain" issue. I have heard lots of holy-rollers

whine and cry when someone says "god

damn". But what really is god's name? Doesn't
the bible say that god's name is unknowable?

Like, when Moses asked god for his name, all

he got was, "I am". So if nobody knows the

name of god, how can anybody use it in vain? _
By intentionally referring to the almighty..the term a mortal applies
is irrelevant.

Your statement presupposes monotheism.

_
You're a bible-thumper, Twist -- what do you

think?

I think some are in a sad state concerning God.

Your response was just like I would expect from a bible-thumper.... you can't
accept the reality that the religious and/or spiritual 'state' of anyone else is
none of your concern. Nor is it your place to judge others based on the precepts
of your own personal beliefs, especially when you fail to live according to
those precepts...... remember your version of the "Golden Rule", Twist?

Those who obviously are
in dire need of spiritual direction and refer to one who believes in the
God of Abraham as a "Bible-thumper",,,continue to produce the most
inaccurate posts regarding anything to date.

Those who are overwhelmed by the realities of science and logic usually abandon
them in favor of the simplicity of religion. Those who are incapable of
accepting the responsibilities of their own actions seek adjudication from a
'higher power'. And, according to my visiting grand-nephew, "You go to church
when nobody likes you because the Bible says people who go to church -have- to
like you," which mirrors the observations made throughout history that religions
thrive on social rejects. Pretty god damn sharp for a 6 year old!






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From: (Frank=A0Gilliland)
In ,
(Twistedhed) wrote:
From: (Frank=A0Gilliland)
In ,
(Twistedhed) wrote: snip Using the "F" word is
not taking the lord's name in vain.
_
Interesting topic, this "taking the lord's name in
vain" issue. I have heard lots of holy-rollers

whine and cry when someone says "god

damn". But what really is god's name? Doesn't
the bible say that god's name is unknowable?

Like, when Moses asked god for his name, all

he got was, "I am". So if nobody knows the

name of god, how can anybody use it in vain? _
=A0=A0By intentionally referring to the almighty..the term a mortal
applies is irrelevant.
_
Your statement presupposes monotheism.


How so? Your interpretive skills are acting up again. You are reading
what isn't there.
_
You're a bible-thumper, Twist -- what do you

think?

I think some are in a sad state concerning God.
Your response was just like I would expect

from a bible-thumper.... you can't accept the

reality that the religious and/or spiritual 'state'

of anyone else is none of your concern.

_
Agreed, You inquired of my "state", and opinion, which makes it your
overt concern.
_
Nor is it your place to judge others based on

the precepts of your own personal beliefs,


I don't judge upon my belief. In fact, google "benefit of the doubt" and
you will find in many of my posts, that I alway give the benefit of
doubt to folks. I am too trusting.
_
especially when you fail to live according to

those precepts.....


Any "precepts" are of *your* inclusion and always manufactured, just
like your inquiry of my beliefs and opinions concerning religion, your
communication deficits have you misinterpreting the reality of the
situation.
_

. remember your version of the "Golden Rule",
Twist?


Yes, I do, Frank, however, I do not believe that cursing and making you
my topic will resolve your misfortune and maladies.
Of course, telling anyone who will listen about your multi-year
obsessions concerning an internet personality gives me much
satisfaction. I'm not the one who needs return your awkward, abusive,
angry, childlike behaviors in order to feel a temporary betterment of
myself. You have the corner and patent on such behaviors, Frank.
_
Those who obviously are
in dire need of spiritual direction and refer to one who believes in the
God of Abraham as a "Bible-thumper",,,continue to produce the most
inaccurate posts regarding anything to date.

Those who are overwhelmed by the realities

of science and logic usually abandon them in

favor of the simplicity of religion.

_
Those who suffer comprehension and interpretive problems are unaware
that evolution is not an exact science, but a theory...provide the
missing link, something that has been tried repeatedly and met with
accute failure (something you are quite familiar with), and then you can
destroy religion. Until then, you are no more educated than the
religious observer..as we both have "blind faith" in our beliefs. You,
despite the lack of hard evidence, assume enough is present to sustain
your non-deity (except myself) belief. Religious observers believe your
lack of evidence concerning evolution, coupled with their own personal
dogmas, backgrounds, experiences and beliefs, is enough to believe the
opposite of you. Until you understand that slamming another for their
beliefs, such as you are attempting now with your personal insult
falsely accusing moi of "accepting reality" when in fact, you offer
nothing more than anohter spectacular belief. Minds are like books and
function only when open.
_
Those who are incapable of accepting the

responsibilities of their own actions seek

adjudication from a 'higher power'.

_
Adjudication? Do you mean "abdication", as in abdication of sins? Your
brush is getting wide again, and your canine teeth are showing your
discontent and contempt for christianity.
_


And, according to my visiting grand-nephew,

"You go to church when nobody likes you

because the Bible says people who go to

church -have- to like you,"
_
I'm not surprised. If he is related to you, it is of little wonder that
he is already Twisted.
I didn't think you would pass me down through your generations, Frank.

_


which mirrors the

observations made throughout history that

religions thrive on social rejects. Pretty god

damn sharp for a 6 year old!




The rejects are the ones that need attack others beliefs, as you so
adepty illustrated your willingness to do such. And to correct your
bull****, the bible says " Build not churches to worship me, but come to
me directly through the Son." Church is a frame of mind, not a physical
structure. You will never comprehend such things, Frank,,one needs
faith,,all you have is darkness, dilemmas, and unhealthy obsessions.


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In ,
(Twistedhed) wrote:

From: (Frank*Gilliland)
In ,
(Twistedhed) wrote:
From: (Frank*Gilliland)
In ,
(Twistedhed) wrote: snip Using the "F" word is
not taking the lord's name in vain.
_
Interesting topic, this "taking the lord's name in
vain" issue. I have heard lots of holy-rollers

whine and cry when someone says "god

damn". But what really is god's name? Doesn't
the bible say that god's name is unknowable?

Like, when Moses asked god for his name, all

he got was, "I am". So if nobody knows the

name of god, how can anybody use it in vain? _
**By intentionally referring to the almighty..the term a mortal
applies is irrelevant.
_
Your statement presupposes monotheism.


How so? Your interpretive skills are acting up again. You are reading
what isn't there.

I already gave you a lesson in prepositional phrases -- do I also need to
educate you in the difference between singular and plural?

_
You're a bible-thumper, Twist -- what do you

think?

I think some are in a sad state concerning God.
Your response was just like I would expect

from a bible-thumper.... you can't accept the

reality that the religious and/or spiritual 'state'

of anyone else is none of your concern.

_
Agreed, You inquired of my "state", and opinion, which makes it your
overt concern.

I asked for your opinion. I did not inquire of your "state". Your interpretive
skills are acting up again. You are reading what isn't there.

_
Nor is it your place to judge others based on

the precepts of your own personal beliefs,


I don't judge upon my belief. In fact, google "benefit of the doubt" and
you will find in many of my posts, that I alway give the benefit of
doubt to folks. I am too trusting.

ROTFLMMFAO!!!!!

_
especially when you fail to live according to

those precepts.....


Any "precepts" are of *your* inclusion and always manufactured, just
like your inquiry of my beliefs and opinions concerning religion, your
communication deficits have you misinterpreting the reality of the
situation.
_

. remember your version of the "Golden Rule",
Twist?


Yes, I do, Frank, however, I do not believe that cursing and making you
my topic will resolve your misfortune and maladies.
Of course, telling anyone who will listen about your multi-year
obsessions concerning an internet personality gives me much
satisfaction. I'm not the one who needs return your awkward, abusive,
angry, childlike behaviors in order to feel a temporary betterment of
myself. You have the corner and patent on such behaviors, Frank.

.....uh huh.... and that's why you have accused me of everything under the sun,
including child molestation and alcohol abuse, right? Now according to the
Golden Rule (the -real- one, not your twisted version), you should treat others
the way you want to be treated. So did you make those accusations and forgeries
because you really want me to accuse you of such horrendous behavior and forge
your posts? Well, guess what, Twisty, I have been one step above that all this
time and have done nothing of the sort. Others have, too be sure, but according
to your version of the Golden Rule, you asked for it!

And here's another lesson to discuss at your next church group: Just because
someone treats you poorly, the -real- Golden Rule doesn't justify poor behavior
in return. Quite the contrary -- see the "Turn the other cheek" rule. Or maybe
your bible study class hasn't gotten that far yet.....

_
Those who obviously are
in dire need of spiritual direction and refer to one who believes in the
God of Abraham as a "Bible-thumper",,,continue to produce the most
inaccurate posts regarding anything to date.

Those who are overwhelmed by the realities

of science and logic usually abandon them in

favor of the simplicity of religion.

_
Those who suffer comprehension and interpretive problems are unaware
that evolution is not an exact science, but a theory...provide the
missing link, something that has been tried repeatedly and met with
accute failure (something you are quite familiar with), and then you can
destroy religion. Until then, you are no more educated than the
religious observer..as we both have "blind faith" in our beliefs. You,
despite the lack of hard evidence, assume enough is present to sustain
your non-deity (except myself) belief. Religious observers believe your
lack of evidence concerning evolution, coupled with their own personal
dogmas, backgrounds, experiences and beliefs, is enough to believe the
opposite of you. Until you understand that slamming another for their
beliefs, such as you are attempting now with your personal insult
falsely accusing moi of "accepting reality" when in fact, you offer
nothing more than anohter spectacular belief. Minds are like books and
function only when open.

Your lack of understanding is demonstrated by your ignorance of the differences
between inductive and deductive logic, both of which constitute the foundation
of science. The evidence supporting evolution is overwhelming, especially when
compared to the total lack of proof (gee, what a suprise) offered by the crowd
that thinks the universe was willed into existence in six days by some supreme
being, a concept which is laughable if you were capable of looking at things
objectively, which you aren't (gee, another suprise). This is the 21st century,
Twist; yet you, like so many others, choose to practice mythology that has
existed since before the dark ages. The funny thing is that while you profess a
belief that directly contradicts both science and logic, you hypocritically
embrace the latter concepts as they suit you, and irrespective of your 'belief'.

_
Those who are incapable of accepting the

responsibilities of their own actions seek

adjudication from a 'higher power'.

_
Adjudication? Do you mean "abdication", as in abdication of sins? Your
brush is getting wide again, and your canine teeth are showing your
discontent and contempt for christianity.

I meant 'adjudication', just like I said. And you really need to learn the
definitions of the words you use -- sins are not subject to "abdication".

_


And, according to my visiting grand-nephew,

"You go to church when nobody likes you

because the Bible says people who go to

church -have- to like you,"
_
I'm not surprised. If he is related to you, it is of little wonder that
he is already Twisted.

Not "twisted", Twisty. Just observant.

I didn't think you would pass me down through your generations, Frank.

No need for you to start thinking now, Twisty.

_


which mirrors the

observations made throughout history that

religions thrive on social rejects. Pretty god

damn sharp for a 6 year old!




The rejects are the ones that need attack others beliefs, as you so
adepty illustrated your willingness to do such.

I don't attack the true spritual beliefs of others -- I attack hypocrites like
you who hide behind the veil of religion, much like you hide behind your alias
in this newsgroup.

And to correct your
bull****, the bible says " Build not churches to worship me, but come to
me directly through the Son." Church is a frame of mind, not a physical
structure. You will never comprehend such things, Frank,,one needs
faith,,all you have is darkness, dilemmas, and unhealthy obsessions.

Right. Sure. Which no-code hammie do you think I am -this- week, Twisty? And
what does the Bible say about lying? Bearing false witness? Stealing? Shooting
mushroom-picking college kids? Strangely enough, I hope I'm wrong -- I hope
there really is a god, because then you will have a lot of explaining to do come
judgment day (and that's 'judgment', as in 'adjudicate') to someone that will
see ALL your bull****. And if I'm there when you try and spin the "judge" with
your misdirections, logical fallacies, pathetic justifications, misperceived
conincidences and blatant lies, I'll laugh myself all the way to Hell! I can see
it now.....

God: "So what do you have to say for yourself?"

Twisty: "....uh, HE said he was N7VCF!"

God: "No he didn't."

Twisty: "....well, he IMPLIED he was...."

God: "No he didn't."

Twisty: "...(sigh)...but he was so obsessed with that identity..."

God: "No he wasn't, you were. In fact, it was you that suggested he was five
different hams."

Twisty: "And each one was justified!"

God: "How so?"

Twisty: "Well, he and Leland Scott both posted from Supernews...."

God: "So did many others."

Twisty: "But they both wrote the same kind of pro-legal dribble..."

God: "So you reasoned that he was Leland Scott because you thought it was either
impossible or highly unlikely that they could have been two different people?"

Twisty: "Yes! And of course you know how everybody in the newsgroup had several
different identities...."

God: "No, not everybody. Only a few did, one of them being yourself."

Twisty: "Well, ok. But that was before I discovered another newsgroup hammie by
the name Glenn Sparks.... get it? Sparky? Sparks?"

God: "....hmmm."

Twisty: "But what about this: I looked up Sparky's name in the ham database and
found N7VCF. I compared pictures on N7VCF's website and on Sparky's website, and
guess what: They both had a beard! And N7VCF lived in Issaquah, and Sparky said
he was from Issaquah...."

God: "No he didn't."

Twisty: "But he didn't deny it...."

God: "Yes he did."

Twisty: "Get over your communication deficit, God! N7VCF lived only 300 miles
away from Sparky, and that was just too close to be a coincidence in a country
of nearly half a billion people....."

............


ROTFL!






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I compared pictures on N7VCF's website and on Sparky's website, and
guess what: They both had a beard!

ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

Frank Gilliland wrote:
In ,
(Twistedhed) wrote:


From: (Frank Gilliland)
In ,
(Twistedhed) wrote: snip
Using the "F" word is not taking the lord's name in vain.
_

Interesting topic, this "taking the lord's name in
vain" issue. I have heard lots of holy-rollers

whine and cry when someone says "god

damn". But what really is god's name? Doesn't
the bible say that god's name is unknowable?

Like, when Moses asked god for his name, all

he got was, "I am". So if nobody knows the

name of god, how can anybody use it in vain? _

By intentionally referring to the almighty..the term a mortal applies
is irrelevant.


Your statement presupposes monotheism.


_

You're a bible-thumper, Twist -- what do you

think?

I think some are in a sad state concerning God.


Your response was just like I would expect from a bible-thumper.... you can't
accept the reality that the religious and/or spiritual 'state' of anyone else is
none of your concern. Nor is it your place to judge others based on the precepts
of your own personal beliefs, especially when you fail to live according to
those precepts...... remember your version of the "Golden Rule", Twist?


Those who obviously are
in dire need of spiritual direction and refer to one who believes in the
God of Abraham as a "Bible-thumper",,,continue to produce the most
inaccurate posts regarding anything to date.


Those who are overwhelmed by the realities of science and logic usually abandon
them in favor of the simplicity of religion. Those who are incapable of
accepting the responsibilities of their own actions seek adjudication from a
'higher power'. And, according to my visiting grand-nephew, "You go to church
when nobody likes you because the Bible says people who go to church -have- to
like you," which mirrors the observations made throughout history that religions
thrive on social rejects. Pretty god damn sharp for a 6 year old!






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good post frank...

Frank Gilliland wrote:
In ,
(Twistedhed) wrote:

-snip-

OFFAA! SCROLL!

"jim" wrote in message ...


Frank Gilliland wrote:
Those who are overwhelmed by the realities of science and logic usually abandon
them in favor of the simplicity of religion. Those who are incapable of
accepting the responsibilities of their own actions seek adjudication from a
'higher power'. And, according to my visiting grand-nephew, "You go to church
when nobody likes you because the Bible says people who go to church -have- to
like you," which mirrors the observations made throughout history that religions
thrive on social rejects. Pretty god damn sharp for a 6 year old!






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good post frank...

Well I can agree with one
thing that Frank has said as
of late.

Landshark


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