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Old December 20th 03, 11:19 PM
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Dave Bushong wrote:

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But getting back to the JFK quote, you seem to forget that the
purpose of government is to serve the people. The idea of "ask not
what your country can do for you..." is completely contrary to the
concepts espoused by the framers of the U.S. Constitution. You can
compare that document, he http://memory.loc.gov/const/const.html
and then compare it to China's version:
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/20...ent_633686.htm


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JFK was making a request that people volunteer their time to make this
nation and through the Peace Corps the world a better place. It was not
a demand and not against the Constitution. Trying to compare this
request to any demand Red China has made of their people under penalty
of their law is insulting to our nation and memory of a great leader.
You show no understanding of past events with comments like this. You
should be ashamed of writing something like this. Please re-think what
you wrote.

I can count the number of times on one hand that a world leader made a
speech inspiring people to make the world a better place out of self
sacrifice and you try to compare this to a repressive communist regimes
actions? Totally incongruous is this thinking.

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Old December 21st 03, 02:54 AM
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TELAMON,

JFK's "Call" was NOT Limited to the Peace Corps; but to
Service of All Kinds to This Nation to Make It Greater.

+ To Get Involved in Government Civil Service.

+ To Join the Military

+ To Become a Teacher, Nurse, Doctor, ETC

+ To Become a Fireman, Policeman, Public Service Worker

+ To Volunteer in Your Communities - Helping Others

+ To Volunteer for the Peace Corps, VISTA, AmeriCorps

+ YES - Even To Get Involved into Politics

For Every American to Actively Work to Build A Better America [.]


NOTE: IMHO - A Better America - Will Make for A Better World.
- I Do Not Subscribe to the "False" Idea of the OWLES
- - That Only By Tearing Down America in Words and Deads
- - - That We Can Then Start to Begin To Build A Better World.

REMEMBER TOO: On that Inauguation Day JFK Also Spoke These Words.
"Let Us Go Forth To Lead The Land We Love,
asking His Blessing and His Help,
but knowing that here on earth
God's Work Must Truly Be Our Own."
- - - Inaugural Address of President John F. Kennedy
- - - Washington, D.C. January 20, 1961


gba ~ RHF
= = = God Bless America and Our Elected Leaders - Amen !
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In article ,
Dave Bushong wrote:

snip

But getting back to the JFK quote, you seem to forget that the
purpose of government is to serve the people. The idea of "ask not
what your country can do for you..." is completely contrary to the
concepts espoused by the framers of the U.S. Constitution. You can
compare that document, he http://memory.loc.gov/const/const.html
and then compare it to China's version:
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/20...ent_633686.htm


snip

JFK was making a request that people volunteer their time to make this
nation and through the Peace Corps the world a better place. It was not
a demand and not against the Constitution. Trying to compare this
request to any demand Red China has made of their people under penalty
of their law is insulting to our nation and memory of a great leader.
You show no understanding of past events with comments like this. You
should be ashamed of writing something like this. Please re-think what
you wrote.

I can count the number of times on one hand that a world leader made a
speech inspiring people to make the world a better place out of self
sacrifice and you try to compare this to a repressive communist regimes
actions? Totally incongruous is this thinking.


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Old December 21st 03, 08:02 PM
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"RHF" wrote in message
m...
TELAMON,
JFK's "Call" was NOT Limited to the Peace Corps; but to
Service of All Kinds to This Nation to Make It Greater.

+ To Get Involved in Government Civil Service.
+ To Join the Military
+ To Become a Teacher, Nurse, Doctor, ETC
+ To Become a Fireman, Policeman, Public Service Worker
+ To Volunteer in Your Communities - Helping Others
+ To Volunteer for the Peace Corps, VISTA, AmeriCorps
+ YES - Even To Get Involved into Politics

For Every American to Actively Work to Build A Better America [.]


I notice these are all government paid (read Welfare) positions! Was there
ever a shortage of people with their hand out?

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REMEMBER TOO: On that Inauguration Day JFK Also Spoke These Words.
"Let Us Go Forth To Lead The Land We Love,
asking His Blessing and His Help,
but knowing that here on earth
God's Work Must Truly Be Our Own."
- - - Inaugural Address of President John F. Kennedy
- - - Washington, D.C. January 20, 1961


Do you suppose JFK was shot for mouthing off?

If he had not said those things, would he still be alive?

Would he have been elected for a second term?


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Old December 21st 03, 08:33 PM
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"Roger Gt" wrote in message
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"RHF" wrote in message
m...
TELAMON,
JFK's "Call" was NOT Limited to the Peace Corps; but to
Service of All Kinds to This Nation to Make It Greater.

+ To Get Involved in Government Civil Service.
+ To Join the Military
+ To Become a Teacher, Nurse, Doctor, ETC
+ To Become a Fireman, Policeman, Public Service Worker
+ To Volunteer in Your Communities - Helping Others
+ To Volunteer for the Peace Corps, VISTA, AmeriCorps
+ YES - Even To Get Involved into Politics

For Every American to Actively Work to Build A Better America [.]


I notice these are all government paid (read Welfare) positions! Was

there
ever a shortage of people with their hand out?



You have a very strange point of view. Since when are government jobs
(someone has to do them) "welfare"? Since when is volunteerism paid at all?



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Old December 22nd 03, 02:22 AM
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"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
"Roger Gt" wrote in message
"RHF" wrote in message
TELAMON,
JFK's "Call" was NOT Limited to the Peace Corps; but to
Service of All Kinds to This Nation to Make It Greater.

+ To Get Involved in Government Civil Service.
+ To Join the Military
+ To Become a Teacher, Nurse, Doctor, ETC
+ To Become a Fireman, Policeman, Public Service Worker
+ To Volunteer in Your Communities - Helping Others
+ To Volunteer for the Peace Corps, VISTA, AmeriCorps
+ YES - Even To Get Involved into Politics

For Every American to Actively Work to Build A Better America [.]


I notice these are all government paid (read Welfare) positions! Was

there
ever a shortage of people with their hand out?


You have a very strange point of view. Since when are government jobs
(someone has to do them) "welfare"? Since when is volunteerism paid at

all?

You also have a very strange point of view!
Government jobs have always been the root of welfare.

(When the public welfare was reformed then President Clinton ordered
thousands put on the federal payroll to "Employ them" Elevator operators
for the Pentagon, for automatic self serve elevators. etc.)

IE: Position paid by the taxpayers without responsibility for the outcome or
result.
Show me anyone in any government position who is held responsible for the
damage they do, or failures to perform! Never happens, or rather so
rarely it is a major news event, when was the last time you heard of a
government employee held responsible!

None of the positions listed are actually Volunteers! All are paid,
although some are called compensation. Pay, Salary = Compensation. No
difference.

There used to be volunteer fire men, and other "Public Service
positions, but not much anymore, the Unions are using these positions to
extract moneys to enhance the political position they uniquely espouse!
That THEY OWN these positions!




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