"DieSea" wrote in message
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"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
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DieSea wrote:

Not my LOCAL Node

Local OP says there's enough contest on HF where SOME SKILL is needed
and says
he's on holiday until the end of April.

To have contest on TWO DAYS a week is TOO much , for SEVEN Days its
insufferable.

I don't understand why cell phones aren't included.

- Mike -


They should be , after all they can be used to control an EchoLink or IRLP
Node .

I Should also add that this contest is on for a FULL MONTH , that's a full
28 days
or more .

If I remember MattD had some suitable comment a day or so back.

DieSea



Great....I'll join in if someone can help me get my CW Key to operate on it.

Dan/W4NTI

Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"DieSea" wrote in message
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"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
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DieSea wrote:


Not my LOCAL Node

Local OP says there's enough contest on HF where SOME SKILL is needed
and says
he's on holiday until the end of April.

To have contest on TWO DAYS a week is TOO much , for SEVEN Days its

insufferable.

I don't understand why cell phones aren't included.

- Mike -


They should be , after all they can be used to control an EchoLink or IRLP
Node .

I Should also add that this contest is on for a FULL MONTH , that's a full
28 days
or more .

If I remember MattD had some suitable comment a day or so back.

DieSea




Great....I'll join in if someone can help me get my CW Key to operate on it.

Dan/W4NTI

There would be no reason why you can't use CW over IRLP. Stop bagging
IRLP, if you don't like it then don't use it!

WAKE UP! There are so many different things you can do on Amateur
Radio, there is room for everyone.

I just checked, there are a total of 1591 IRLP nodes, 1034 active, 879
idle and 105 in calls. This indicates the following to me:

1. IRLP is a popular way of communications on Amateur Radio.

2. This contest is going to have very little impact on any one local
node. Big deal someone is going to dial it up, put out a call either
they will make a contact or they won't and then they will close the link!

Get over it! Go back to your CW if you want, who bothers you or bags you
for using it, I know I certainly don't.


--
The views I present are my own and NOT of any organisation I belong to.

73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
http://www.aca.gov.au/pls/radcom/cli...IENT_NO=157452
VoIP http://www.TALKonIP.com.au/

Great....I'll join in if someone can help me get my CW Key to operate on it.

Dan/W4NTI

There would be no reason why you can't use CW over IRLP. Stop bagging
IRLP, if you don't like it then don't use it!

WAKE UP! There are so many different things you can do on Amateur
Radio, there is room for everyone.

I just checked, there are a total of 1591 IRLP nodes, 1034 active, 879
idle and 105 in calls. This indicates the following to me:

1. IRLP is a popular way of communications on Amateur Radio.

2. This contest is going to have very little impact on any one local
node. Big deal someone is going to dial it up, put out a call either
they will make a contact or they won't and then they will close the link!

Get over it! Go back to your CW if you want, who bothers you or bags you
for using it, I know I certainly don't.


--
The views I present are my own and NOT of any organisation I belong to.

73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
http://www.aca.gov.au/pls/radcom/cli...IENT_NO=157452
VoIP http://www.TALKonIP.com.au/


Simon

I'm not bagging IRLP or Voip


A contest running for 24 hours perhaps or at a push 1 weekend but 24 / 7 for 28
days no way.

Ofcom / the RSGB have put in the conditions of issuing a Notice of Variation ,
that the holder of the Nov MUST be on site at all times the node is running , if
he's not then the can rescind his Nov if caught.

I would be surprised if any UK amateur providing a VoiP Gateway would be at home
for 24 / 7 for 28 days .

It there fore puts the UK amateur at a dis-advantage as soon as the licensee walks
of the property , the node should be turned off.

DieSea

DieSea wrote:
Great....I'll join in if someone can help me get my CW Key to operate on it.

Dan/W4NTI

There would be no reason why you can't use CW over IRLP. Stop bagging
IRLP, if you don't like it then don't use it!

WAKE UP! There are so many different things you can do on Amateur
Radio, there is room for everyone.

I just checked, there are a total of 1591 IRLP nodes, 1034 active, 879
idle and 105 in calls. This indicates the following to me:

1. IRLP is a popular way of communications on Amateur Radio.

2. This contest is going to have very little impact on any one local
node. Big deal someone is going to dial it up, put out a call either
they will make a contact or they won't and then they will close the link!

Get over it! Go back to your CW if you want, who bothers you or bags you
for using it, I know I certainly don't.


--
The views I present are my own and NOT of any organisation I belong to.

73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
http://www.aca.gov.au/pls/radcom/cli...IENT_NO=157452
VoIP http://www.TALKonIP.com.au/



Simon

I'm not bagging IRLP or Voip


A contest running for 24 hours perhaps or at a push 1 weekend but 24 / 7 for 28
days no way.

Ofcom / the RSGB have put in the conditions of issuing a Notice of Variation ,
that the holder of the Nov MUST be on site at all times the node is running , if
he's not then the can rescind his Nov if caught.

I would be surprised if any UK amateur providing a VoiP Gateway would be at home
for 24 / 7 for 28 days .

It there fore puts the UK amateur at a dis-advantage as soon as the licensee walks
of the property , the node should be turned off.

DieSea

I certainly wouldn't expect anyone to go against the regs. But what has
that got to do with the IRLP contest? My point was with so many active
nodes out there the load would be spread out and traffic I would expect
be very minimal on any given node.


--
The views I present are my own and NOT of any organisation I belong to.

73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
http://www.aca.gov.au/pls/radcom/cli...IENT_NO=157452
VoIP http://www.TALKonIP.com.au/

It there fore puts the UK amateur at a dis-advantage as soon as the licensee
walks
of the property , the node should be turned off.

DieSea

I certainly wouldn't expect anyone to go against the regs. But what has
that got to do with the IRLP contest? My point was with so many active
nodes out there the load would be spread out and traffic I would expect
be very minimal on any given node.



It certainly doesn't make the "PLAYING FIELDS LEVEL"

Our local Node op has been away this weekend helping at the Blackpool Rally so his
nodes been down since Friday , its just gone up.

In some respect we're lucky as he's an elderly bloke with mobility problems , he
doesn't get out much , so when he's up its on , he's still p***ed off with this 24
/ 7 x 28 day contest .


The Next comment you make is that its radio to radio , that's not 100 % correct ,
I know of at least 3 VK's , 2 VE's and at least 5 G / M stations that don't have a
radio connected to their node . Its quite easy to confirm that comment about G / M
stations if you know where to look.

DieSea.

DieSea wrote:
It there fore puts the UK amateur at a dis-advantage as soon as the licensee

walks

of the property , the node should be turned off.

DieSea

I certainly wouldn't expect anyone to go against the regs. But what has
that got to do with the IRLP contest? My point was with so many active
nodes out there the load would be spread out and traffic I would expect
be very minimal on any given node.




It certainly doesn't make the "PLAYING FIELDS LEVEL"

Our local Node op has been away this weekend helping at the Blackpool Rally so his
nodes been down since Friday , its just gone up.

In some respect we're lucky as he's an elderly bloke with mobility problems , he
doesn't get out much , so when he's up its on , he's still p***ed off with this 24
/ 7 x 28 day contest .


The Next comment you make is that its radio to radio , that's not 100 % correct ,
I know of at least 3 VK's , 2 VE's and at least 5 G / M stations that don't have a
radio connected to their node . Its quite easy to confirm that comment about G / M
stations if you know where to look.

DieSea.

Are you sure you are not confusing IRLP with echolink? I personally
don't agree with using your computer to access the the network like
echolink does, but I am not going to stop any licensed person from doing
so if the regs. allow it.


--
The views I present are my own and NOT of any organisation I belong to.

73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
http://www.aca.gov.au/pls/radcom/cli...IENT_NO=157452
VoIP http://www.TALKonIP.com.au/

Simon VK3XEM wrote:

DieSea wrote:
The Next comment you make is that its radio to radio , that's not 100 % correct ,
I know of at least 3 VK's , 2 VE's and at least 5 G / M stations that don't have a
radio connected to their node . Its quite easy to confirm that comment about G / M
stations if you know where to look.

DieSea.

Are you sure you are not confusing IRLP with echolink? I personally
don't agree with using your computer to access the the network like
echolink does, but I am not going to stop any licensed person from doing
so if the regs. allow it.



"Diesea" is not confusing anything with anything. He is talking about
IRLP. ie. the system which is supposed to be radio radio only.


--
Chris

It certainly doesn't make the "PLAYING FIELDS LEVEL"

Our local Node op has been away this weekend helping at the Blackpool Rally so
his
nodes been down since Friday , its just gone up.

In some respect we're lucky as he's an elderly bloke with mobility problems ,
he
doesn't get out much , so when he's up its on , he's still p***ed off with
this 24
/ 7 x 28 day contest .


The Next comment you make is that its radio to radio , that's not 100 %
correct ,
I know of at least 3 VK's , 2 VE's and at least 5 G / M stations that don't
have a
radio connected to their node . Its quite easy to confirm that comment about G
/ M
stations if you know where to look.

DieSea.

Are you sure you are not confusing IRLP with echolink? I personally
don't agree with using your computer to access the the network like
echolink does, but I am not going to stop any licensed person from doing
so if the regs. allow it.


--
The views I present are my own and NOT of any organisation I belong to.

73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
http://www.aca.gov.au/pls/radcom/cli...IENT_NO=157452
VoIP http://www.TALKonIP.com.au/

Simon

If had meant EchoLink , I would have said EchoLink , you as I were talking
about IRLP and my response was in that vein.

I have been around before the inception of IRLP by Dave Cameron even before the
demise of IPhone and the I'll fated ILink.

If you know how to look you will find a number of IRLP nodes on air in the UK that
CAN NOT be attached to a radio.

DieSea.

Only the nominated Participating Nodes may be used for the contest. However,
nodes that are connected to Reflectors that are Participating (ie a UK Nov
node) still count, but only the Participating Nodes may be connected to by
contesters, therefore it is fair to all stations, as only those nominated
in each country are participating nodes. Note that new nodes are added daily
to the participating list.


"DieSea" wrote in message
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It there fore puts the UK amateur at a dis-advantage as soon as the
licensee
walks
of the property , the node should be turned off.

DieSea

I certainly wouldn't expect anyone to go against the regs. But what has
that got to do with the IRLP contest? My point was with so many active
nodes out there the load would be spread out and traffic I would expect
be very minimal on any given node.



It certainly doesn't make the "PLAYING FIELDS LEVEL"

Our local Node op has been away this weekend helping at the Blackpool
Rally so his
nodes been down since Friday , its just gone up.

In some respect we're lucky as he's an elderly bloke with mobility
problems , he
doesn't get out much , so when he's up its on , he's still p***ed off with
this 24
/ 7 x 28 day contest .


The Next comment you make is that its radio to radio , that's not 100 %
correct ,
I know of at least 3 VK's , 2 VE's and at least 5 G / M stations that
don't have a
radio connected to their node . Its quite easy to confirm that comment
about G / M
stations if you know where to look.

DieSea.

Ashley VK3HAG wrote:
Only the nominated Participating Nodes may be used for the contest. However,
nodes that are connected to Reflectors that are Participating (ie a UK Nov
node) still count, but only the Participating Nodes may be connected to by
contesters, therefore it is fair to all stations, as only those nominated
in each country are participating nodes. Note that new nodes are added daily
to the participating list.

That certainly knocks down a lot of the flamers!


"DieSea" wrote in message
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It there fore puts the UK amateur at a dis-advantage as soon as the

licensee

walks

of the property , the node should be turned off.

DieSea

I certainly wouldn't expect anyone to go against the regs. But what has
that got to do with the IRLP contest? My point was with so many active
nodes out there the load would be spread out and traffic I would expect
be very minimal on any given node.



It certainly doesn't make the "PLAYING FIELDS LEVEL"

Our local Node op has been away this weekend helping at the Blackpool

Rally so his

nodes been down since Friday , its just gone up.

In some respect we're lucky as he's an elderly bloke with mobility

problems , he

doesn't get out much , so when he's up its on , he's still p***ed off with

this 24

/ 7 x 28 day contest .


The Next comment you make is that its radio to radio , that's not 100 %

correct ,

I know of at least 3 VK's , 2 VE's and at least 5 G / M stations that

don't have a

radio connected to their node . Its quite easy to confirm that comment

about G / M

stations if you know where to look.

DieSea.







--
The views I present are my own and NOT of any organisation I belong to.

73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
http://www.aca.gov.au/pls/radcom/cli...IENT_NO=157452
VoIP http://www.TALKonIP.com.au/