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"Brian Reay" wrote:
: I don't think anyone is saying "shut up" etc. I'm saying unless ILRP impacts : you, why worry? morse test didnt impact you but you still shoutred from the roof tops and wrote loads of emails to anyone who would rwad them ? : : Over the years I've come across many amateurs who hated some aspect of the : hobby- packet, anything computer based,........ Not one ever seems to have : found a niche they really do like. yeh... you disagreed witht he morse test... but now enforce the morse assessment COMPULSRY REQUIREMENT |
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"Mike Coslo" wrote in message ... Brian Reay wrote: Well, in that case why don't you call it something else. Then come back when someone makes you call it by the name that upsets you. Untill then, 'mellow out'. Dan, why are IRLP fans so quick to tell people to shut up and go away when someone disagrees with them. Are people like you and "concerned amateur" typical of what we might meet if we sample the mode? - Mike KB3EIA - Probably so. Dan/W4NTI |
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"Brian Reay" wrote in message ... "Mike Coslo" wrote in message ... Brian Reay wrote: Well, in that case why don't you call it something else. Then come back when someone makes you call it by the name that upsets you. Untill then, 'mellow out'. Dan, why are IRLP fans so quick to tell people to shut up and go away when someone disagrees with them. Are people like you and "concerned amateur" typical of what we might meet if we sample the mode? I don't think anyone is saying "shut up" etc. I'm saying unless ILRP impacts you, why worry? Over the years I've come across many amateurs who hated some aspect of the hobby- packet, anything computer based,........ Not one ever seems to have found a niche they really do like. -- Brian Reay www.g8osn.org.uk www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk FP#898 There you go putting words into my mouth again Brian. I never said I hate IRLP. I said I don't like it being called Ham Radio. And I don't much care if you like my opinion or not. So there. Dan/W4NTI |
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"DieSea" wrote in message ... "Walt Davidson" wrote in message ... On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:35:30 +1100, "Martin, VK2UMJ" wrote: "Walt Davidson" wrote : On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:02:29 GMT, "Ashley VK3HAG" wrote: Personally, as a newbie to ham radio, (but long time cb'er and scanner user) ... Well, there's a surprise! [NOT] Oh look, another ham that was born with a licence and callsign already allocated!!! What, you don't think amateurs start somewhere and may even have used other forms of radio before??? When I got my amateur radio licence in 1960, there was no such thing as CB in the UK, and no such thing as a code-free amateur licence. We were much better off then! CB is the recruitment ground for LIDs. 73 de G3NYY -- Walt Davidson Email: g3nyy @despammed.com I know of a few amateurs ( G3's to boot ) that have made a good living out of CB in the HAY DAYS during the 80's , as well as picking up some more of the colourful expressions as well , they can still to be heard to-day with their Personals ,Twigs and Twenty's or even the name would be . Come to think of it , why when they are working a local why cant they speak their mother tongue ands have to pretend they're in a convoy. DieSea DieSea Here is a American phrase you can put on them..... Well good buddy....Ya just can't fix STUPID. Cheers and Beers mate. Dan/W4NTI |
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"wonderer" wrote in message ... "Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message ink.net... "Mike Coslo" wrote in message ... Dan/W4NTI wrote: "Simon VK3XEM" wrote in message ... Get over it! Go back to your CW if you want, who bothers you or bags you for using it, I know I certainly don't. -- The views I present are my own and NOT of any organisation I belong to. 73 de Simon, VK3XEM. http://www.aca.gov.au/pls/radcom/cli...IENT_NO=157452 VoIP http://www.TALKonIP.com.au/ Thanks for bringing this up Mate!. My major problem is folks refering to interconnecting "hams" over the internet as "ham radio". Ham radio is R A D I O . Not INTERNET connected to Nodes then to a radio somewhere. Call it whatever you want, but it is NOT ham radio. It is an H-T audio chat room, Dan. - Mike KB3EIA - As I said....call it whatever they want. But it ain't Ham Radio. oh!! yes it is let's take it one bit at a time R = repeater = radio, receiver of repeater linked to transmitter of a repeater in another country the reverse is true. I = internet, no problems here L is for linking, no problems here P is for protocol, to enable the two repeaters to be able to be linked to gether, it is radio at both ends. what problem do you have with this ALF VK5ZKL Gawd Almighty you Ausies are a thick headed bunch, ain't ya? Ham RADIO is communications with a RADIO or a RADIO system. INTERNET is communications with a NETWORK of interconnected computers organized in such a manner to send "packets" of data world-wide. Do you see any mention of RADIO there? Next. Dan/W4NTI |
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"Brian Reay" wrote in message ... "Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message ink.net... Oh I don't think so Brian. Spark was a MODE not a different system of sending the information. CW is continous wave. I.E. still sending information by the same method. I.E. over the airwaves now called RADIO. Do you see the difference yet? I do. And so does anyone else with a brain. Look...new technology is fine. Old technology is also fine. But these two things ARE NOT INTERCHANGABLE. Radio is Radio. Internet is Internet. Get it? What I don't 'get' is why people get so 'up tight' over such things? If people enjoy VOIP systems fine, if they don't, fine. Ditto Morse, Packet, Phone, Repeaters, ......... I've yet to see a facet of the hobby that has adversely impacted my enjoyment- even if is a facet that leaves me cold. What is this urge to insist everyone does it 'your way'? -- Brian Reay www.g8osn.org.uk www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk FP#898 Because I am right, and you are wrong. Further more I am NOT trying to force you to believe it my way. I am just trying to show you that you are W R O N G. Keep calling IRLP or VOIP Ham radio all you want. The rest of us know better. Dan/W4NTI |
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"Brian Reay" wrote in message ... "Mike Coslo" wrote in message ... I know that my objection to the internet modes is *not* their existence, but that so many of their adherents want to call them "radio". And having a contest only exacerbates the silliness. Hmm, and what someone else calls it bothers you? AND they want a contest. The cheek of it! This a akin to "How many angels can dance on the head of a pin." Take a chill pill. And yes, a person uses their radio to access the network injection point. Not much of a challenge, that. So don't do it yourself, seek out something you find rewarding rather than worry how others get their kicks. Oh I agree that it isn't much challenge but so what? Who are 'they' harming? -- Brian Reay www.g8osn.org.uk www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk FP#898 It seems to me the ONLY person here having a problem is Brian. Dan/W4NTI |
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"ZZZPK " .es.it.net wrote in message ... "shoutred" "rwad" "yeh" "witht" "COMPULSRY" Glass houses and stones come to mind. When preaching to Brian about his actions and beliefs, an attempt to respond in the same language would be nice. HTH -- Walter |
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Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"Brian Reay" wrote in message ... "Mike Coslo" wrote in message ... Brian Reay wrote: Well, in that case why don't you call it something else. Then come back when someone makes you call it by the name that upsets you. Untill then, 'mellow out'. Dan, why are IRLP fans so quick to tell people to shut up and go away when someone disagrees with them. Are people like you and "concerned amateur" typical of what we might meet if we sample the mode? I don't think anyone is saying "shut up" etc. I'm saying unless ILRP impacts you, why worry? Over the years I've come across many amateurs who hated some aspect of the hobby- packet, anything computer based,........ Not one ever seems to have found a niche they really do like. -- Brian Reay www.g8osn.org.uk www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk FP#898 There you go putting words into my mouth again Brian. I never said I hate IRLP. I said I don't like it being called Ham Radio. And I don't much care if you like my opinion or not. So there. Dan/W4NTI What I don't like is the way you are putting down a legitimate part of the hobby. Whether you like it or not it IS a legitimate part of Amateur Radio. -- The views I present are my own and NOT of any organisation I belong to. 73 de Simon, VK3XEM. http://www.aca.gov.au/pls/radcom/cli...IENT_NO=157452 VoIP http://www.TALKonIP.com.au/ |
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Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"Brian Reay" wrote in message ... "Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message hlink.net... Oh I don't think so Brian. Spark was a MODE not a different system of sending the information. CW is continous wave. I.E. still sending information by the same method. I.E. over the airwaves now called RADIO. Do you see the difference yet? I do. And so does anyone else with a brain. Look...new technology is fine. Old technology is also fine. But these two things ARE NOT INTERCHANGABLE. Radio is Radio. Internet is Internet. Get it? What I don't 'get' is why people get so 'up tight' over such things? If people enjoy VOIP systems fine, if they don't, fine. Ditto Morse, Packet, Phone, Repeaters, ......... I've yet to see a facet of the hobby that has adversely impacted my enjoyment- even if is a facet that leaves me cold. What is this urge to insist everyone does it 'your way'? -- Brian Reay www.g8osn.org.uk www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk FP#898 Because I am right, and you are wrong. Further more I am NOT trying to force you to believe it my way. I am just trying to show you that you are W R O N G. Keep calling IRLP or VOIP Ham radio all you want. The rest of us know better. Dan/W4NTI I've got bad news for you, with a quick check of http://status.irlp.net/statuspage.html showing a total 1595 IRLP Nodes within the IRLP network and 139 currently engaged in use as I post this message, that IRLP is a popular and *VALID* part of Amateur Radio. Just because you do not see it as part of Amateur Radio that it isn't. It might not be part of YOUR hobby, but that is a different story. -- The views I present are my own and NOT of any organisation I belong to. 73 de Simon, VK3XEM. http://www.aca.gov.au/pls/radcom/cli...IENT_NO=157452 VoIP http://www.TALKonIP.com.au/ |
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