I can't for the life of me understand why there is so much concern over
learning code. After 20 yrs in radiation physics (ionizing, not RF
communications) as a living, I finally decided to go for an amature
radio license. It wasn't until I got here that I learned about this
rift in the community (I have seen it in a few places)....granted it
may be a few spirited individuals on each side that perpetuate this
argument of learning code. I'm very dismayed by this rift, I wanted to
join a fellow group of RF communication enthusianists. I don't need a
segration here too...there is enough of that society already, I don't
need that in a hobby too. I hear my family calling....thats were my
time needs to be spent.
Bruce
Duluth, MN

Slow Code wrote:
Just thought you should know that.


Help save Ham radio and ignore Markie to save
usenet. Thanks


1- No more automatic renewals. Individuals must retest and pass all
elements required for their license class every ten years.


2- The passing score for written exams needs to be raised to 85%.


3- Code elements should be 13 wpm for General, and 20 wpm for Extra.


4- Make the no-code license one year non-renewable.


5- Cancel your ARRL membership until they decide to work to improve
things and stop them from proposing ham radio that is like CB.

On 24 Jul 2006 21:57:39 -0700, "BruceMN44" wrote:

argument of learning code. I'm very dismayed by this rift, I wanted to
join a fellow group of RF communication enthusianists. I don't need a
segration here too...there is enough of that society already, I don't
need that in a hobby too.

There are rifts in all hobbies.

Really? My other hobby is model trains and I have never seen a rift in
model trains in 45 years.

Ham Radio has rifts only because some people feel they are better than
others and try to impose their will and superiority over others.
Usually over a CW testing requirement, being able to repair old,
outdated tube crap, and how fast one can send and receiver an old mode
of communication. They feel that just because someone can't send and
receive CW that they are somehow inferior. It is such foolishness. But
hang in there. These old, unbending old-timers are dying off and
eventually hams will all be united again promoting the service/hobby and
joining the national organization in support of the service/hobby. I
guess that's why God does not have people living forever. Death has a
way of cleansing the hobby of the old, outdated, and outmoded.

Al Klein wrote:
On 24 Jul 2006 21:57:39 -0700, "BruceMN44" wrote:

argument of learning code. I'm very dismayed by this rift, I wanted to
join a fellow group of RF communication enthusianists. I don't need a
segration here too...there is enough of that society already, I don't
need that in a hobby too.

There are rifts in all hobbies.

On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 10:34:17 -0400, "J. D. B."
wrote:

Really? My other hobby is model trains and I have never seen a rift in
model trains in 45 years.

So which is *really* the best gauge to model? Is it okay if you buy
kits, or aren't you a real rail hobbyist unless you make at least all
your cars from scratch? Or do you have to build your own engines from
scratch too? Etc., etc.

"J. D. B." wrote in
:

Really? My other hobby is model trains and I have never seen a rift in
model trains in 45 years.


Well that explains everything.

SC