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My old shack/office/development computer needs to be replaced.

My ham applications are WriteLog, Logger32, microHAM Router, and tQSL
(LoTW).

Are there any showstoppers if I buy something with Vista Home Premium
installed, and upgrade to Windows 7 in the future. (No, I'm not interested
in retrograding to XP).

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On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 15:36:11 EDT, KØHB wrote:

My old shack/office/development computer needs to be replaced.

My ham applications are WriteLog, Logger32, microHAM Router, and tQSL
(LoTW).

Are there any showstoppers if I buy something with Vista Home Premium
installed, and upgrade to Windows 7 in the future. (No, I'm not interes

ted
in retrograding to XP).

73, de Hans, K0HB


Check with the authors of your ham apps to see if they will upgrade
them to Win 7, and if so, when. It sometimes takes a while for apps
to be upgraded.

All of the reviews I've seen about Windows 7 say that it is much
better that Vista.

Dick, AC7EL

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"Richard" wrote ...
Check with the authors of your ham apps to see if they will upgrade
them to Win 7, and if so, when. It sometimes takes a while for apps
to be upgraded.


Excellent advice. Never select a comptuer or OS for an app(s)
before confirming that they will operate there. Win7 is available
in pre-release ("RC-1") for the purposes of testing hardware and
software compatibility. My local PC shoppe hands out (official!)
discs out for free. Of course they will stop running next spring,
after which you should have paid for the license if you want to use
it.

Note that the requirements for the newer operating systems (post-
XP) are significantly higher for application authors, so don't be
too surprised if some favorite apps take longer to make the upgrade.
Also not unusual for developers to just throw in the towel at the
sight of the newer requirements. One of the major reasons for the
continued brisk sales of XP ("retrograde" or not :-) MS shot
themselves in the foot with Vista and Win7 is supposed to be better
at running in "backwards compatible" mode.

All of the reviews I've seen about Windows 7 say that it is much
better that Vista.


Indeed, sales of XP continue as if Vista never happened.
Microsoft may be finally able to discontinue XP after users
are convinced that Win7 is decent (assuming, hoping...)


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"Richard Crowley" wrote in message
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"Richard" wrote ...
Check with the authors of your ham apps to see if they will upgrade
them to Win 7, and if so, when. It sometimes takes a while for apps
to be upgraded.


Excellent advice. Never select a comptuer or OS for an app(s)
before confirming that they will operate there. Win7 is available
in pre-release ("RC-1") for the purposes of testing hardware and
software compatibility. My local PC shoppe hands out (official!)
discs out for free. Of course they will stop running next spring,
after which you should have paid for the license if you want to use
it.

Note that the requirements for the newer operating systems (post-
XP) are significantly higher for application authors, so don't be
too surprised if some favorite apps take longer to make the upgrade.
Also not unusual for developers to just throw in the towel at the
sight of the newer requirements. One of the major reasons for the
continued brisk sales of XP ("retrograde" or not :-) MS shot
themselves in the foot with Vista and Win7 is supposed to be better
at running in "backwards compatible" mode.

All of the reviews I've seen about Windows 7 say that it is much
better that Vista.


Indeed, sales of XP continue as if Vista never happened.
Microsoft may be finally able to discontinue XP after users
are convinced that Win7 is decent (assuming, hoping...)


I have a brisk business downgrading to XP just because of its speed,
stability and backward compatibility.

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On 14/09/09 20:36, KØHB wrote:
My old shack/office/development computer needs to be replaced.

My ham applications are WriteLog, Logger32, microHAM Router, and tQSL
(LoTW).

Are there any showstoppers if I buy something with Vista Home Premium
installed, and upgrade to Windows 7 in the future. (No, I'm not
interested in retrograding to XP).

73, de Hans, K0HB


Why not try Linux..? It's free and there are plenty of useful Amateur
Radio applications. Not sure if any match what you specify above but
worth a look maybe..?

73 Ivor G6URP



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Linux and XP are not options.

This computer will need to "triple" as my ham radio machine, home office
machine, and also developing/debugging new Windows applications.

73, de Hans, K0HB
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"Ivor Jones" wrote in message
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On 14/09/09 20:36, KØHB wrote:
My old shack/office/development computer needs to be replaced.

My ham applications are WriteLog, Logger32, microHAM Router, and tQSL
(LoTW).

Are there any showstoppers if I buy something with Vista Home Premium
installed, and upgrade to Windows 7 in the future. (No, I'm not
interested in retrograding to XP).

73, de Hans, K0HB


Why not try Linux..? It's free and there are plenty of useful Amateur
Radio applications. Not sure if any match what you specify above but wo

rth
a look maybe..?

73 Ivor G6URP


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"KØHB" wrote in message
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Linux and XP are not options.

This computer will need to "triple" as my ham radio machine, home office
machine, and also developing/debugging new Windows applications.

73, de Hans, K0HB


Dual Boot XP/Vista is doable but it is a whole lot easier to do starting
with XP first. There are tutorials on this. I have often found dual
booting to be a good way to continue using software while finding
compatibility solutions. I realize some of the new hardware has problem
s
with that.

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On 21/09/09 00:33, JB wrote:

wrote in message
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Linux and XP are not options.

This computer will need to "triple" as my ham radio machine, home office
machine, and also developing/debugging new Windows applications.

73, de Hans, K0HB


Dual Boot XP/Vista is doable but it is a whole lot easier to do starting
with XP first. There are tutorials on this. I have often found dual
booting to be a good way to continue using software while finding
compatibility solutions. I realize some of the new hardware has problem
s
with that.


I dual-boot WinXP and Linux. Don't often run up XP except if I need to
use the occasional bit of software that won't run under Wine.

73 Ivor G6URP

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Ivor Jones wrote:
On 21/09/09 00:33, JB wrote:

wrote in message
...
Linux and XP are not options.

This computer will need to "triple" as my ham radio machine, home offi

ce
machine, and also developing/debugging new Windows applications.

73, de Hans, K0HB


Dual Boot XP/Vista is doable but it is a whole lot easier to do starti

ng
with XP first. There are tutorials on this. I have often found dual
booting to be a good way to continue using software while finding
compatibility solutions. I realize some of the new hardware has prob

lems
with that.


I dual-boot WinXP and Linux. Don't often run up XP except if I need to
use the occasional bit of software that won't run under Wine.

73 Ivor G6URP


If you go that route, it's easiest to start with XP, install Vista, and
then put Linux in last. Don't forget to plan your disk usage in advance:
XP and Vista can share the same "data" drive, but remember that Linux is
only able to _read_ from NTFS partitions, so you might want to choose
FAT32 for drives that will be shared between Windows and Linux.

HTH.

73,

Bill W1AC
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On 21/09/09 17:22, Bill Horne wrote:

[snip]

If you go that route, it's easiest to start with XP, install Vista, and
then put Linux in last. Don't forget to plan your disk usage in advance:
XP and Vista can share the same "data" drive, but remember that Linux is
only able to _read_ from NTFS partitions, so you might want to choose
FAT32 for drives that will be shared between Windows and Linux.

HTH.

73,

Bill W1AC
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That's strange, I seem to be able to read/write to all the NTFS disks on
my system from within Linux. I have Linux on a separate HDD on my main
desktop machine and there are also 3 NAS drives on the network, all are
accessible from both my Linux machines.

73 Ivor G6URP

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